Dne 09. 10. 19 v 23:41 Wilson Bustos napsal(a):
Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with this issue'.
At least everyone now they don't
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-09 21:27]:
> Hi Jean Louis,
>
> please stop sending the same message to the Guix bug tracker and
> development mailing list. They are neither bug reports nor do they
> pertain to the development of Guix.
>
> For discussions about GNU please use the appropriate GNU
* Dimakakos Dimos [2019-10-08 12:38]:
> On the subject, I think that the discussion of rms's position in GNU is
> valid but that at the same time such an announcment should be made after
> a careful consideration and research.
There was no public discussion. I am not against their opinion, and
* P [2019-10-08 13:30]:
> ‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐
> On Tuesday, October 8, 2019 4:38 PM, Dimakakos Dimos
> wrote:
>
> > Do we have evidence that rms has caused harm to GNU's projects?
>
> in short: yes.
>
> lots of people have talked about this, but here is one thread I've seen
>
Jean Luis,
Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with this issue'.
At least everyone now they don't want to discuss this.
Don't waste your
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 17:53]:
> I think even more important,
> When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in favor of
> that statement,
> or at least a major number of them.
>
> But I get surprise to not find any mail to ask to anyone about this,
> There is not a vote.
* Svante Signell [2019-10-09 13:18]:
> Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement.
> cc: RMS
>
> I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such
> a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially
> in the context of the recent defaming
thanks.
I understand the process you explained. Btw, when is the next batch coming?
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On Thursday, October 10, 2019 3:17 AM, Timothy Sample wrote:
> Hi guixest,
>
> guixest guix...@protonmail.com writes:
>
> > hi.
> > I was
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-07 17:41]:
> Hi František, and welcome,
>
> (I’m willing to answer questions like I wrote, but if we are to have a
> more in-depth conversation, I think we should not abuse guix-devel for
> that.)
Now is too late, you are the one who abused Guix, and you should step
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-07 22:00]:
> Just for curiosity, about this:
> "Yet, we must also acknowledge that Stallman’s behavior over the years has
> undermined a core value of the GNU project"
>
> Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
> What is the reason of that statement?
> What you
* zimoun [2019-10-08 16:19]:
> Hi,
>
> First, just to give numbers about what means 18 GNU maintainers. Here
> [1] is the list of the GNU packages. I let you count but I guess the
> list is more than 300 packages. Therefore, one can guess that the GNU
> maintainers are more than 300.
> Well,
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 17:41]:
> Jean Luis,
> Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
> Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
> There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with this issue'.
>
> At least everyone now
* František Kučera [2019-10-09 16:39]:
> Dne 09. 10. 19 v 19:06 P napsal(a):
> > Stop spamming the list. Thanks.
> >
> If you did not want to start this discussion, you should not have posted
> that statement on the official Guix blog. You could expect what it would do.
>
> Franta
Exactly,
* František Kučera [2019-10-07 17:14]:
> > Hello Guix!
> >
> > We, a group of GNU maintainers sharing a vision for a stronger GNU
> > Project, are publishing this statement today:
> >
> >https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
> >
> > We are somewhat abusing the
* Ludovic Courtès [2019-10-08 04:34]:
> Hi Jesse,
>
> Jesse Gibbons skribis:
>
> > Is there an alternative list where we can have an in-depth discussion?
>
> Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> mailing lists.
Please do not speak of "GNU maintainers" mention
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-08 10:37]:
> The free software communities has to work with every person with
> every idea always in the community we work with respect with each
> other. I think IMHO, that everyone do to Stallman was malicious and
> is an attack to the free thinking and speech.
That
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-10 07:09]:
> I have previously asked you privately to stop spamming our mailing
> lists. I am asking you a second time publicly. If you keep disrupting
> our mailing lists your posts will be moderated.
I cannot expect anything else from you.
Jean
I think even more important,
When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in favor of
that statement,
or at least a major number of them.
But I get surprise to not find any mail to ask to anyone about this,
There is not a vote.
Someone just think in that way and use the site
Hi guixest,
guixest writes:
> hi.
> I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date
> where as gnome
> is not. is there a reason for this?
Yes and no. As I understand it, upgrading GNOME often means upgrading
GTK and GLib, which have a lot of dependants. We
* Jan [2019-10-08 06:33]:
> On Tue, 8 Oct 2019 10:19:28 +0200
> "pelzflorian (Florian Pelz)" wrote:
>
> > On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> > > Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
> >
> > Perhaps
> >
Hi,
On Wed, 9 Oct 2019 11:56:33 +0200
Tanguy Le Carrour wrote:
> 1) Updating a package
> So I would have to update python-cachecontrol from 0.11.6 to 0.12.5.
> Should I create a python-cachecontrol-0.11.6 and fix all the packages
> that depend on it? Only the one that would break?
The latter.
* Alexander Vdolainen [2019-10-09 23:13]:
> I'm nobody (yep, I'm using GNU Guile, GNU Emacs and GUIX and a lot
> of other GNU projects (make, gcc, binutils etc ...), but I'm not a
> great contributor yet). However those events are going to look like
> a decision point to move on from GNU
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 23:42]:
> Jean Luis,
> Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have
> argument. Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they
> just did it. There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree with
> this issue'.
>
> At least everyone
* Pierre Neidhardt [2019-10-08 04:48]:
> Ludovic Courtès writes:
>
> > Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> > mailing lists.
>
> Why?
Because it is conspiracy that shall not be placed and given to public
discussion. The fact that RMS knows about their
* Wilson Bustos [2019-10-09 23:54]:
> I think even more important,
> When I read that statement I thought every Guix collaborator is in
> favor of that statement, or at least a major number of them.
And that is exactly what is not being spread on Internet.
I would like to ask those "GNU
* pelzflorian (Florian Pelz) [2019-10-08 04:19]:
> On Mon, Oct 07, 2019 at 10:59:41PM -0300, Wilson Bustos wrote:
> > Which 'behavior' are you exactly talking about?
>
> Perhaps
> https://medium.com/@selamjie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88
>
> Thank you, GNU maintainers, for
* Ricardo Wurmus [2019-10-08 07:17]:
>
> Pierre Neidhardt writes:
>
> > Ludovic Courtès writes:
> >
> >> Unfortunately GNU maintainers have having this discussion on private
> >> mailing lists.
> >
> > Why?
>
> Private GNU mailing lists have existed for years. They are currently
> being
* Andy Wingo [2019-10-09 11:49]:
> For what it is worth, I have some personal answers to some of these
> questions here:
>
> https://wingolog.org/archives/2019/10/08/thoughts-on-rms-and-gnu
I am appreciating that you are publishing your opinions beyond the
GUIX.GNU.ORG and GNU.ORG domains.
* František Kučera [2019-10-09 18:11]:
> Dne 09. 10. 19 v 23:41 Wilson Bustos napsal(a):
> > Seems they don't want to reply, probably because they don't have argument.
> > Also, the project signs without as anyone to do it, they just did it.
> > There is not a vote to say 'The project is agree
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
* Aaron Wolf [2019-10-08 18:46]:
> I don't see enough evidence to support even considering this
> interpretation of John Sullivan. The post included offensive language as
> well. It makes perfect sense for it to have been blocked. Accusations
> like this require far more evidence than this sort
Hello again,
Pierre Neidhardt writes:
> Hi Maxim!
>
>> I've used a full backup to migrate from hard drives in the past; it's
>> actually faster to sync drives than fetch packages off the internet, and
>> my system is exactly in the same *state* as it was left (including those
>> bookmarks in
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
On Tue 08 Oct 2019 18:38, Dimakakos Dimos writes:
> So to sum up it would be nice to expand a bit on the announcement. My
> main questions are:
>
> 1. How does the GNU project operate, in the light of all the
> different projects, and what role and influence had rms as the head
>
Maybe you can chain a shell `find' + compsize on specific folders / file types.
--
Pierre Neidhardt
https://ambrevar.xyz/
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Hey Marius,
> To prevent this work from rotting away, I propose that we start the
> branch as early as next month. With luck, users will be able to
> cross-compile Guix System for arbitrary toys come December ;-)
>
> Thoughts?
Seems like a good plan :)
Mathieu
Hi Guix
I'm currently working on packaging python-poetry and, unsurprisingly,
I have questions! :-)
I guess some of them have already been answered somewhere, so don't
hesitate to point me to a previous thread or post…
1) Updating a package
What am I suppose to do when updating a package to a
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes:
> AFAIK it is simply in the order in which the signatories signed
> the thing. That's certainly the case for numbers 19 and up. It
> makes it trivial to count the number of signatures (even though
> it's forever stuck at ‘18’ in all third-party reporting :-).
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
From:
Mr. Jean Louis
Nagpur, India
Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
Hello there,
I have seen your signature here:
https://guix.gnu.org/blog/2019/joint-statement-on-the-gnu-project/
My opinion on your signing of that defamatory, harassing, biased and
fact-less statement is here:
Dear Guix, and other people signing that statement.
cc: RMS
I do also have problems with your campaign against RMS. Publishing such
a statement as a blog entry for Guix is very inappropriate. Especially
in the context of the recent defaming campaign on him personally on
social media, making him
Pierre Neidhardt 写道：
Tobias Geerinckx-Rice writes:
AFAIK it is simply in the order in which the signatories signed
the thing. That's certainly the case for numbers 19 and up.
It
makes it trivial to count the number of signatures (even though
it's forever stuck at ‘18’ in all third-party
Hi Guix,
As mentionned in another thread, python-cachecontrol is broken.
The problem is the following:
Failed: [pytest] section in setup.cfg files is no longer supported,
change to [tool:pytest] instead.
When I fix the package definition, I end up with another problem.
The
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On Wednesday, October 9, 2019 6:25 AM, Jean Louis wrote:
> From:
> Mr. Jean Louis
> Nagpur, India
> Day 3 of week 41 of 2019
>
> Hello there,
Stop spamming the list. Thanks.
hi.
I was looking at available gtk based desktops. It appears xfce is up to date
where as gnome is not. is there a reason for this?
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Dne 09. 10. 19 v 19:06 P napsal(a):
Stop spamming the list. Thanks.
If you did not want to start this discussion, you should not have posted
that statement on the official Guix blog. You could expect what it would do.
Franta
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