Re: proposal: modularize unpack in gnu build system

[Gábor Boskovits]

2018-02-14 14:49 GMT+01:00 Ludovic Courtès :

> Hi Gábor,
>
> Gábor Boskovits  skribis:
>
> > 2018-02-11 22:50 GMT+01:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
> >
> >>
> >> Gábor Boskovits  writes:
> >>
> >> > It seems, that currently we don't have zip in gnu build system, so
> that
> >> > ends up in native-inputs, if we need that to unpack the tarball.
> >> >
> >> > It would be nice if gnu-build-system would use the appropriate
> >> compressor,
> >> > and at the same time only depend on the one needed. How could this be
> >> > achieved?
> >>
> >> Why is this necessary?  I don’t see a problem with adding “unzip” to the
> >> native-inputs when it is needed to unpack a zip archive.
> >>
> >> In my opinion this is so easy that I don’t think the slight increase in
> >> convenience would be worth the change.
> >>
> >>
> > You might be right about that. What I feel is that:
> > 1. this is a recurring newbie question on the irc channel, I've seen it
> > already a few times, so support time could be reduced
> > 2. this change could make adding new archive types easier in the future.
>
> FWIW I pretty much agree with Ricardo here.  I understand your concerns,
> yet it seems to me that this is a minor annoyance (zip archives for
> source code are not that frequent anyway), new archive types for source
> code don’t show up that often either, and overall I’m wary of
> “over-engineering” things like this.
>
>
Ok, fine, I take this proposal back.


> Ludo’.
>

Re: proposal: modularize unpack in gnu build system

[Ludovic Courtès]

Hi Gábor,

Gábor Boskovits  skribis:

> 2018-02-11 22:50 GMT+01:00 Ricardo Wurmus :
>
>>
>> Gábor Boskovits  writes:
>>
>> > It seems, that currently we don't have zip in gnu build system, so that
>> > ends up in native-inputs, if we need that to unpack the tarball.
>> >
>> > It would be nice if gnu-build-system would use the appropriate
>> compressor,
>> > and at the same time only depend on the one needed. How could this be
>> > achieved?
>>
>> Why is this necessary?  I don’t see a problem with adding “unzip” to the
>> native-inputs when it is needed to unpack a zip archive.
>>
>> In my opinion this is so easy that I don’t think the slight increase in
>> convenience would be worth the change.
>>
>>
> You might be right about that. What I feel is that:
> 1. this is a recurring newbie question on the irc channel, I've seen it
> already a few times, so support time could be reduced
> 2. this change could make adding new archive types easier in the future.

FWIW I pretty much agree with Ricardo here.  I understand your concerns,
yet it seems to me that this is a minor annoyance (zip archives for
source code are not that frequent anyway), new archive types for source
code don’t show up that often either, and overall I’m wary of
“over-engineering” things like this.

Ludo’.

Re: proposal: modularize unpack in gnu build system

[Gábor Boskovits]

2018-02-11 22:50 GMT+01:00 Ricardo Wurmus :

>
> Gábor Boskovits  writes:
>
> > It seems, that currently we don't have zip in gnu build system, so that
> > ends up in native-inputs, if we need that to unpack the tarball.
> >
> > It would be nice if gnu-build-system would use the appropriate
> compressor,
> > and at the same time only depend on the one needed. How could this be
> > achieved?
>
> Why is this necessary?  I don’t see a problem with adding “unzip” to the
> native-inputs when it is needed to unpack a zip archive.
>
> In my opinion this is so easy that I don’t think the slight increase in
> convenience would be worth the change.
>
>
You might be right about that. What I feel is that:
1. this is a recurring newbie question on the irc channel, I've seen it
already a few times, so support time could be reduced
2. this change could make adding new archive types easier in the future.


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> Ricardo
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Re: proposal: modularize unpack in gnu build system

[Ricardo Wurmus]

Gábor Boskovits  writes:

> It seems, that currently we don't have zip in gnu build system, so that
> ends up in native-inputs, if we need that to unpack the tarball.
>
> It would be nice if gnu-build-system would use the appropriate compressor,
> and at the same time only depend on the one needed. How could this be
> achieved?

Why is this necessary?  I don’t see a problem with adding “unzip” to the
native-inputs when it is needed to unpack a zip archive.

In my opinion this is so easy that I don’t think the slight increase in
convenience would be worth the change.

--
Ricardo

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