[h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

I've been looking at the cover photo on my copy of Butterick 3713 http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2348/2119647295_6faec963f3_o.jpg and I've always thought that this was based on a real portrait or image of Queen Victoria, but I can't find a portrait of Queen Victoria that looks like this or

RE: [h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

I have seen a similar style worn by someone portraying QV but I do not recall any of her portraits having this style. Most gowns that she worn before she became a widow had some sort of lace on it or ruffle. Do note that the pattern has the waistline to low. Actually I believe that Queen Elizabeth

[h-cost] Embroidered velvet on sale at Fabric.com

I just received a Deal-of-the-Day notice from Fabric.com about embroidered velvet. Here's the link to the site: http://www.fabric.com/CategoryDetail.aspx?CategoryID=1c5af352-ea9c-424c-8b28-f459278d3af9 Some of the fabrics are cotton velvet, some are rayon/silk velvet. Joan Jurancich [EMAIL

RE: [h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

I believe it is based on one; check out any formal portrait of the 1840's-1850's of Queen Victoria in evening dress, because the neckline looks evening. The Butterick pattern looks more like an interpretation of the 1840's than 1850's. You might have luck in finding pictures of Queen Victoria in

Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun

I did put my hair in a pony tail but obviously did not use enough pins. Not even enough for me to find my way out of the mall as they scattered on the floor behind me. I will have to look into the more massive hair pins you describe. Thank you! Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN,

Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun

The best answer, then, is to costume yourself as the White Queen from Lewis Carroll's THROUGH THE LOOKING-GLASS, and celebrate the scattered hairpins and flying hair as costuming detail at its best!

Re: [h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

My take on this is that it was taken from the VA recent film and not from life. I do not believe that there are not many portrait pictures done of Victoria on canvas. Since she enters history at the beginning of the photographic method of capturing likenesses, most of what we know of her can

Re: [h-cost] OT: Keeping hair in bun

Good idea. Obviously, that had been my unintended model... Well, then, I pulled it off very well. Marjorie Marjorie Gilbert author of THE RETURN, a historical novel set in Georgian England www.marjoriegilbert.net - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume

[h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

It looks based on one. It might not be possible to find a portrait of Queen Vic in gold, because after Prince albert died she insisted that all the portraits of her (well, all possible) were altered to show her in mourning dress - according to a painting expert from (I think) Christie's.

RE: [h-cost] is this based on a real portrait?

In the book, Victorian and Edwardian Fashion, by Alison Gernsheim, there is a photo of a woman in a dress with a very similar neckline. It is dated 1845. (plate 14, if you have the book) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of LLOYD MITCHELL Sent: