>> When I use epaulettes I put in the sleeves in the normal way. I make
>> up the epaulettes as complete units, and sew them on to the sleeve
>> head seam from the underneath, so you don't see the stitching. Saves
>> an awful lot of layers!

Suzi!  This is probably the best solution. Why didnt I think of it? 
I'd even get perfect placement of the epaulettes with full control. 
You're a genius.  Thanks!

>Can someone point us to an online pic to see what it is you are all
>talking about?  Sounds very interesting.
>Thanks,
>Sg

I was asking about Stuart doublets. Here's a few pics in books:
Look in Norah Waugh, Cut of Women's Clothes, plate 3b c 1610. See the
little wing at the top of shoulder?
Janet Arnold PoF: The Verney gown c 1600.
Blanche Payne: Fig 348 Purple & Gold costume of Adolphus the Great
1620 is a man's version of the same style.

You'll also find dozens in late Elizabethan portraits on men & women. 
Here's a Spanish one: Blanche Payne: fig 336 Infanta Isabella Clara
Eugenia 1590
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
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