Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-09 Thread Käthe Barrows
One difficulty is that cloth was fulled much better in various historic periods than what's available now. There are some fulled fabrics available, but more expensive. Anyway, as pointed out earlier, sometimes raw edges are appropriate. For a recreation in competition, I personally would

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-09 Thread Pierre Sandy Pettinger
At 01:58 PM 5/8/2009, you wrote: One difficulty is that cloth was fulled much better in various historic periods than what's available now. There are some fulled fabrics available, but more expensive. Anyway, as pointed out earlier, sometimes raw edges are appropriate. So what

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-09 Thread Käthe Barrows
And note, there is no right way to achieve your compensation. In your example, I could also see binding all the seam edges and then flat-felling the seams. You could also zig-zag stitch or even serge the edges as well. None of these techniques would be any better than the others. The

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-08 Thread Carol Kocian
On May 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Käthe Barrows wrote: Of course, there are periods where a raw edge is more authentic than finished edges. But if you'd documented the lack of seam finish, and if your other hand-sewing was good, the lack of seam finish would have looked deliberate, not like

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-08 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Friday 08 May 2009 2:58:59 pm Carol Kocian wrote: On May 8, 2009, at 1:53 PM, Käthe Barrows wrote: Of course, there are periods where a raw edge is more authentic than finished edges. But if you'd documented the lack of seam finish, and if your other hand-sewing was good, the lack of

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-08 Thread Käthe Barrows
A raw edge is one thing; a seam with loose threads hanging off of it is another. *That* sort of seam is not period for Anglo-Saxon; clothing took too many resources (both of material and person power) to make for it to be tolerable to create shoddy clothing. Edges shedding loose threads is

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-07 Thread Heather Rose Jones
On May 7, 2009, at 2:19 AM, Käthe Barrows wrote: What if the judges don't like my historical period? This shouldn't matter if they're honest. Case in point, all three of us judges gagged when we saw that someone was entering that 1959 Dior outfit. We' were all old enough to have developed

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-07 Thread Andrew T Trembley
On May 7, 2009, at 2:03 PM, Heather Rose Jones wrote: It's probably bad manners to say this on the list rather than privately, but I'm a bit concerned for what the lurkers might think if this isn't responded to. No, it's really not bad manners. If that had been something I entered, I would

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-07 Thread appin1
that, but it was the best. Kathleen Norvell -Original Message- From: Andrew T Trembley attre...@bovil.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, 7 May 2009 6:43 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation On May 7

Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship and historical interpretation

2009-05-07 Thread Käthe Barrows
Sorry. I guess people couldn't see how much I was laughing when I wrote it - the entrant saw our actual reaction at the time. IIRC, the entrant laughed *with us* when we said all this in front of her, so I didn't think she'd be offended when I said it again. (If she was offended, I'll apologize