Just read this really interesting article on a discovery of 15th century
undergarments in Austria. Never say never things really are being dug up
every day!
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-2174568/Found-castle-vault-scraps-
lace-lingerie-rage-500-years-ago.html
::Linda::
This article is getting some discussion in other places. It's a shame the
author (or whoever provided the information to the author) makes so many
assumptions. For instance, the pictured garment described as a bra appears
to be fragments of a much larger item -- look at the part surviving at
What you say is certainly true... even the article's title is misleading. I
see no lacey lingerie, but I suppose that's what it takes to grab the
average reader today. But it's still interesting, and I'd love to see photos
of other pieces in this discovery. Any leads on that?
::Linda::
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Yes, I saw that one, too. Wonderful to have actual 'real people' photos,
isn't it?
As far as the underwear, I agree that the article is rather sensationalized,
which I suppose is just part of today's general media. I'd love to read
reports written by textile experts and directed towards educated
Oh definitely. The movement of the cloth, the unstudied poses,
combined with the beauty of the clothes (despite real-life wear!). Yum.
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On Jul 17, 2012, at 10:09 AM, Linda Rice wrote:
Yes, I saw that one, too.
The article was in the Daily Mail. It was probably right next to an article
about seeing the Virgin Mary on a pancake and having an alien as a brother in
law.
Teena
From: Linda Rice vm...@cox.net
To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Tuesday,
Some of the garments had some nalbinding or needle-lace fabric insertions on an
edge which were certainly more open than the linen to which they're attached.
And the underpants--for male or female wear, I'm pretty sure they are a unique
find and very exciting.
Ann in CT
I posted this on the MEDTC elist awhile back (Sept 15, 2010):
Bras in the 15th century? A Preliminary Report
Beatrix Nutz
http://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdfhttp://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdf
This was a paper to be presented at the last NESAT conference (XI). I
was
http://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdf
The above link is to the abstract for the archaeologist's presentation at NESAT
2011. I look forward to seeing further publication of the finds. It looks
really interesting.
Ginni
Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com 7/17/12 10:52 AM
While I disagree with the sensationalized depiction in the Daily Mail article
(Hey look! Medieval times had modern bras!), I do look forward to seeing the
actual research done on the items. It could be very interesting!
Teena
From: Ginni Morgan
I am dying to see the published paper, and hoping it includes patterns.
Fran
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Books on historic sewing and needlework
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On 7/17/2012 2:04 PM, Ginni Morgan wrote:
http://www.nesat.org/abstracts/lecture_nutz.pdf
The above link is to the abstract for the
Hi,
The brief article we are seeing in the Daily Mail seems to coincide with the
August issue of the BBC History Magazine hitting the stands today. Beatriz
Nutz told me that she wrote an article (that is coming out in this particular
issue) that will contain images of two of the “bras” and
On Jul 17, 2012, at 11:46 AM, Ann Catelli wrote:
Some of the garments had some nalbinding or needle-lace fabric insertions on
an edge which were certainly more open than the linen to which they're
attached.
And the underpants--for male or female wear, I'm pretty sure they are a
unique
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