[h-cost] Yippee!!

2006-05-25 Thread M+D: Mary and Doug Piero Carey
OOOh, you got it!   Can I come over on Monday?

VBEG

Mary

Kate/Ailith said:

My copy of Moda a Firenze arrived in today's mail!!!
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Re: [h-cost] In the spirit of current projects

2006-05-25 Thread Lloyd Mitchell
I love these pieces.  And your descriptions add to the beauty of the items.
Kathleen
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 I'm working on two new jackets for myself for modern wear, both of
 which are inspired by historical garments. One is based on a Jacobean
style
 jacket with embroidery design from the Baroque Era, and stitches common to
 Elizabethan Black-work. The other is based on an early Baroque style men's
 frock coat, with Baroque embroidery design and stitches. I'm very excited
 about both and thought I'd share:

 http://www.5rivers.org/en-gb/p_916.html

 Regards,
 Lorina
 Five Rivers Chapmanry
 purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage,
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[h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread AnnBWass
Here is an article about the film--it was booed at Cannes.  We  Americans 
will have to wait until October to see it--our European friends will  see it 
sooner.
 
One scene features shoes designed by Manolo Blahnik!  Costume designer  
Milena Canonero (who did Chariots of Fire and Barry Lyndon) used the  18th 
century as her inspirational template but then went way contempo.  
 
The music is also described, as we discussed when Bjarne showed us the  
trailer.
 
_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR20060524028
21.html_ 
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052402821.html)
 
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi
Wasnt it also Milena who did the affair of the necklace?
I liked her costumes for this, very nice.

Bjarne


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Here is an article about the film--it was booed at Cannes.  We  Americans
will have to wait until October to see it--our European friends will  see 
it

sooner.

One scene features shoes designed by Manolo Blahnik!  Costume designer
Milena Canonero (who did Chariots of Fire and Barry Lyndon) used the 
18th

century as her inspirational template but then went way contempo.

The music is also described, as we discussed when Bjarne showed us the
trailer.

_http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR20060524028
21.html_
(http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/05/24/AR2006052402821.html)

Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] in search of a lost person

2006-05-25 Thread Cynthia J Ley


On Wed, 24 May 2006 23:04:42 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
 Oh, cool! There's another one of us! ;o)
 --sue, who got laureled for blackwork, she thinks (wierd peerage
 ceremony...what can I say?)


Pray tell? :-)

Arlys

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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 5/25/2006 8:35:42 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

Wasnt it  also Milena who did the affair of the necklace?
I liked her costumes for  this, very nice.



**
 
Yes. Her stuff I find is usually very interesting. Sometimes it works  better 
than at other times. I mean she's got Barry Lyndon, Clockwork  Orange and 
Titus... definitely an interesting designer. But there's  bound to be a 
miss somewhere. 
 
I love Sandy Powell's costumes too but you also get hits [Interview with  
the Vampire, Shakespeare in Love, Velvet Goldmine] and misses [Gangs of  
New York] with her.
 
Both designers like to push the envelope, so to speak. That can be  
exciting...but dangerous.
 
It's a shame, IMHO, that filmmakers think they have to make Mozart a rock  
star and Marie a Paris Hilton to make their stories relevant for modern  
audiences.
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RE: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread Abel, Cynthia
 
I would like to see the film, but living in Omaha, NE, I may have to
wait for the video. It may be one of the films I watch just to see where
accuracy in history and costuming goes out the window in favor of
present-day esthetics. But sometimes those movies are fun, anyway.

I did preorder the book about the making of the film from Amazon.com,
but wonder now if it will even be published, stateside, if the movie
promises to tank.

I wonder if the movie will be tinkered with between what was seen at
Cannes and what we may see in October.  From the brief clips and the
online preview it looks as though the costumes are fairly accurate, but
amped up in glamour to look attractive to present-day eyes. And, of
course, there's nary a speck of dust to be seen!

Cindy Abel


 

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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread Dawn

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Here is an article about the film--it was booed at Cannes.  We  Americans 
will have to wait until October to see it--our European friends will  see it 
sooner.



 I didn't want to do a historical epic, Coppola said ...

 What she wanted was an impressionist portrait, a retelling based 
  	on Lady Antonia Fraser's best-selling revisionist biography...





Well, at least they aren't pretending it's an accurate and true 
re-telling of the events, like some other films have done.




Dawn

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RE: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

2006-05-25 Thread Kate Pinner
Ask museums where they get theirs.

Kate
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Subject: RE: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

coltide.com has them and acid free garment boxes too

Silvara


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 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 5/22/2006 3:47:42 PM
 Subject: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

 I've been clearing my mother's house (she is now in a nursing home)
and
have 
 found some vintage garments. I know you are supposed to store such
things
in 
 acid-free tissue paper, but have no idea what kind of shops sell such
paper. 
 Any suggestions?

 Kate Bunting
 Librarian and 17th century reenactor

 Hi Kate.
 Here in Denmark we have a nice shop that sells all kinds of papers for

 offices, and also arts papers. They carry the acid free tissue paper,
so
if 
 you have a shop like that, try and ask them!
 You could also try some bookshops, perhaps?
 Bjarne






 Leif og Bjarne Drews
 www.my-drewscostumes.dk

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RE: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

2006-05-25 Thread Kim Baird
I order mine from Talas:
http://www.talasonline.com/ 

Be sure and get the Unbuffered. Buffered tissue can cause damage on protein
fibers (silk, wool, leather).

Kim

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Subject: RE: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

Ask museums where they get theirs.

Kate
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Sent: Tuesday, May 23, 2006 3:52 AM
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Subject: RE: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

coltide.com has them and acid free garment boxes too

Silvara


 [Original Message]
 From: Bjarne og Leif Drews [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Date: 5/22/2006 3:47:42 PM
 Subject: [h-cost] acid free tissue paper

 I've been clearing my mother's house (she is now in a nursing home)
and
have 
 found some vintage garments. I know you are supposed to store such
things
in 
 acid-free tissue paper, but have no idea what kind of shops sell such
paper. 
 Any suggestions?

 Kate Bunting
 Librarian and 17th century reenactor

 Hi Kate.
 Here in Denmark we have a nice shop that sells all kinds of papers for

 offices, and also arts papers. They carry the acid free tissue paper,
so
if 
 you have a shop like that, try and ask them!
 You could also try some bookshops, perhaps?
 Bjarne






 Leif og Bjarne Drews
 www.my-drewscostumes.dk

 http://home0.inet.tele.dk/drewscph/


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Re: [h-cost] in search of a lost person

2006-05-25 Thread Bonnie Booker

On 5/25/06, Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Oh, cool! There's another one of us! ;o)
--sue, who got laureled for blackwork, she thinks (wierd peerage
ceremony...what can I say?)

Blackwork, Lace, Costuming, and a myrid of other things. Some 15 years
ago.  And you?
--
Aspasia Moonwind

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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread AlbertCat
 
In a message dated 5/25/2006 10:48:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And,  of
course, there's nary a speck of dust to be  seen!



***
 
And, like with The Affair of the Necklace...the anorexic court of Louis  
XVI.
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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread Bjarne og Leif Drews

Hi,
I believe i read somewhere that Marie Antoinette, replaced all her maids of 
honnour with young and pretty ladys same age as herself, and skipped the 
oldfashioned and ugly famillies from her court. Many of the old an 
honnourable famillies was shocked and angry about this, but she really did.
Now i dont know if those young new ladies were anorexic, but you are right 
about it looked a little monotone in the movie.
Marie Antoinette herself were not anorexic looking at all, she had a litttle 
chubby look herself.
For those of you who really would like to read a book about her, i warmly 
recomend to read Stefan Zweigs book Marie Antoinette I dont think any have 
ever got that close to the past as he did with this.


Bjarne who often wished he could have ben a fly in her dressing room.

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In a message dated 5/25/2006 10:48:20 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

And,  of
course, there's nary a speck of dust to be  seen!



***

And, like with The Affair of the Necklace...the anorexic court of Louis
XVI.
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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread Suzi Clarke

At 23:18 25/05/2006, you wrote:

Hi,
I believe i read somewhere that Marie Antoinette, replaced all her 
maids of honnour with young and pretty ladys same age as herself, 
and skipped the oldfashioned and ugly famillies from her court. Many 
of the old an honnourable famillies was shocked and angry about 
this, but she really did.
Now i dont know if those young new ladies were anorexic, but you are 
right about it looked a little monotone in the movie.
Marie Antoinette herself were not anorexic looking at all, she had a 
litttle chubby look herself.
For those of you who really would like to read a book about her, i 
warmly recomend to read Stefan Zweigs book Marie Antoinette I dont 
think any have ever got that close to the past as he did with this.


Bjarne who often wished he could have ben a fly in her dressing room.



There is a supposed bodice of hers in Corsets and Crinolines or Cut 
of Women's Clothes - too lazy to go and check. And if it really was 
hers, anorexic she wasn't - well developed is more a phrase I would 
have used, or Noel Coward's very telling She's a Big girl!


Suzi


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Re: [h-cost] Marie Antoinette

2006-05-25 Thread AnnBWass
 
In a message dated 5/25/2006 6:10:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

...the  anorexic court of Louis  
XVI.



According to the article, at least not Louis himself.  He is described  as 
pudgy, and Jason Schwartzman gained 45 pounds for the role.
 
Ann Wass
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Re: [h-cost] Yippee!!

2006-05-25 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin

My copy of Moda a Firenze arrived in today's mail!!!

I'm so excited!! There are portraits that I've never seen in it AND 
there's a page-sized image of the portrait of Laudomia de Medici as well.


Colour? Wow... I've been looking for THAT for years... looked through books 
and books and books and couldn't find it... 


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Re: [h-cost] in search of a lost person

2006-05-25 Thread Sue Clemenger
I was laureled back when Artemisia was still a fairly young principality in
Atenveldt, and with one (very inactive) exception, am actually the oldest
laurel in the whole state of Montana.  Blackwork (and other forms of
counted-thread embroidery) grabbed me really, really fast, and a year or so
after I first joined, I set out to do what I thought would be a relatively
simple project.  Clear graphs, basic Holbein stitch, good linen and black
silk thread.  My first big project, pretty much all self-taught because
there just wasn't anyone, for 100s of miles, doing anything even remotely
similar.  I reproduced the cuffs on the Holbein portrait of Queen Jane.  On
60 count linen.  And loved it.  And have been doing it ever since.
At any rate, peerages back then were pretty much all drive-by's, with a
little more attention paid to the Chiv.  No warning, no special outfits, no
vigils, nada.  Wham, bam, thank you ma'am...next? sort of thing.  The day I
got nabbed was at an event with really horrible, muddy weather, and I knew
*something* was up, because someone who'd been trying to get my whole name
down (spelling and pronunciation) was a little TOO obvious.  (My SCA name is
in an older form of Irish, and it's long, and pretty unpronouncable to most
Sasenachs ;o).  Court that night was held in a small building, without
electricity, just a few coleman lanterns.  My reaction, when I realized it
was me, and what they were doing, was pretty much oh, shit!  (in a nice
way).  The scroll was a marker-colored photocopy on some sort of dreadful
fake parchment, the ink of which ran in the rain that weekend.  The king and
queen, who happened to be from the Sun and also happened to be the same
people who'd given me an AoA a couple of years before, were later banished
from the Society.  I am moderately sure I'm mostly a blackwork laurel
because that was one thing mentioned in the ceremony, although I was really
involved in other things as well (late period costuming, primarily, and some
cooking).  It's just that I'm mostly known for itsy-bitsy blackwork.  I
adore the simplicity and clarity of monochrome embroidery, and would really
love to do some extended research into the various forms it takes in
different ethnic groups--contrasting, say, the different styles of early and
late 16th century England, with Spanish, and German, and Italian, and
French, and all of the loverly, loverly Islamic stuff...*sigh* ;o)
I should add, my Pelican ceremony (that's a service award, for you
non-SCAers) was even stranger.  I seem to attract weirdness.  (in a nice
way)
--Sue

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 On Wed, 24 May 2006 23:04:42 -0600 Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 writes:
  Oh, cool! There's another one of us! ;o)
  --sue, who got laureled for blackwork, she thinks (wierd peerage
  ceremony...what can I say?)


 Pray tell? :-)

 Arlys

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