Re: [h-cost] Stranded Silk Floss
Dear Kathy, I am a big consumer of Eterna stranded silk floss. I have kg.s of it in boxes here. I have taken many greens, its always nice with sellections of greens for flower leaves. Also a lot of reds. A little les of blues. They dont have many yellows, so perhaps some of those would be nice, orange two. Some purples are also nice. Black, white and grey. What i dont use much of is browns. But wich collours of use in the different periods, you better ask somebody else. Another time i would be very interrested if we could share an order of the lawn. I got contakt to the lady who closed the embroidery shop, and she is sending me some of that fine linnen i was talking about. Many greetings Bjarne - Original Message - From: Kathy Page [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume List h-costume@mail.indra.com Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:15 PM Subject: [h-cost] Stranded Silk Floss I am trying to sort out what colours to stock most of when I finally start ordering in floss stock from Eterna Silks - I plan on selling their line of stranded silk, and as demand sees fit, others in time. I thought originally to find a bunch of embroidery books and use them as my references (I plan on making up floss packs that one can buy a range of colours for a group price) but realised that if I compared to extant, I will be getting today's colours, which could be faded or otherwise altered by time. If people are wanting these flosses for reproduction work, they want it to look how it did when it was new. Does anyone out there have a decent book or two I can use as reference for colouring relative to historical dying of silk? I'd like to for example, have a pack for Norse, Tudor, Elizabethan, Byzantine, Heraldic, etc that covers the general colour tones one would expect to find in such periods and cultures. I have 575 colours to choose from, and as much as I would like to buy one of everything and just go to town, it's not a practical approach to efficient stocking. I'm hoping to get some stock in and at least try to get a bit of Christmas rush covered, but this issue is kind of hanging me up. On the topic of Kammerdug (which I did a little searching and it translates to lawn), I can get linen as fine as that here in North America, and if anyone wants it, I'll gather an order. The merchant that Kimiko mentioned I am betting is buying from the same company as I do, however theirs is the narrower Czech - nothing wrong with it, just a middle-high end grade. I have bolts of both and can compare. I have been getting the museum quality Belgian cambric from them, and it is so fine and lovely that angels fear to touch it. It's pricey, but oh-so-worth it. I can't afford to stock this item, I just act as the clearing house for gathered orders. They require a minimum purchase. Thanks Kathy Ermine, a lion rampant tail nowed gules charged on the shoulder with a rose Or barbed, seeded, slipped and leaved vert (Fieldless) On a rose Or barbed vert a lion's head erased gules. It’s never too late to be who you might have been. -George Eliot Tosach eólais imchomarc. - Questioning is the beginning of knowledge. http://www.sengoidelc.com/node/131 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's
What about try to look at the library? I know for instance the library at Museum of Decorative Arts in Copenhagen takes home all the fashion journals, and i think they have archived these. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Angharad ver' Reynulf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's Greetings everyone! I'm popping out of lurkdom after Worldcon and Loscon to ask for help while setting up another group set of costumes for next year's Friday Night Fun. Wonder of wonders, they are pulling me out of medieval era clothing/costume and into making more early-to-mid 20th century stuff. The theme is Mod as in the mid 1960's. My tighter focus, at least in theory, is going to be closer to the items worn by Diana Riggs in the Avengers, or one of the other similar designers, but I am also finding interesting comments about a couple of other designers. I'll share a few of the ones I don't want for myself with some of the other folks doing the theme who haven't chosen yet as well. So my request is help in finding photos of garments made by John Bates (Jean Varon), Andre Courneges, or Paco Rabanne. I'll be trying to determine a fiber which I can easily wear, as most of the polyester I remember from that time (since I was well, very young then) makes me break out in serious cases of the itchies now. My husband's first vote is for the immediately identifiable first season Emma Peel leather catsuit, but I want to see a few other ideas before I make up my mind. (*grin*) Then to find a nice pair of 1940's patterns for me- one for day and one for evening! Thank you, Jonnalyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's
Greetings everyone! I'm popping out of lurkdom after Worldcon and Loscon to ask for help while setting up another group set of costumes for next year's Friday Night Fun. Wonder of wonders, they are pulling me out of medieval era clothing/costume and into making more early-to-mid 20th century stuff. The theme is Mod as in the mid 1960's. My tighter focus, at least in theory, is going to be closer to the items worn by Diana Riggs in the Avengers, or one of the other similar designers, but I am also finding interesting comments about a couple of other designers. I'll share a few of the ones I don't want for myself with some of the other folks doing the theme who haven't chosen yet as well. So my request is help in finding photos of garments made by John Bates (Jean Varon), Andre Courneges, or Paco Rabanne. I'll be trying to determine a fiber which I can easily wear, as most of the polyester I remember from that time (since I was well, very young then) makes me break out in serious cases of the itchies now. My husband's first vote is for the immediately identifiable first season Emma Peel leather catsuit, but I want to see a few other ideas before I make up my mind. (*grin*) Then to find a nice pair of 1940's patterns for me- one for day and one for evening! Thank you, Jonnalyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image
Does anyone have a larger/higher resolution version of this painting? http://nationalgalleries.org/collections/artist_search.php?objectId=4764 I'm especially interested in the sleeves, but also the neckline and the headwear. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
At 18:58 01/12/2006, you wrote: It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine is wearing padding, a shift, corset and pink check pocket hoops for a sacque I am making for a lady to wear at the Venice Carnival in February next year. There is a caraco jacket and petticoat to follow, plus three more suits, (I have made one) a waistcoat, and three shirts for her husband. Holiday, what holiday!? Suzi ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Cin wrote: It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? Nothing. Absolutely nothing. I've been seriously un-motivated for the past year. :( I saw a very nice embroidered (encrusted, more like it) silk jacket in a Heathrow shop last week, similar to one I planned to make back in, oh, maybe 1994. So I dug out the silk and fancy thread I bought at Vogue all those years ago, and have been looking at it with intent... Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's
Angharad ver' Reynulf wrote: So my request is help in finding photos of garments made by John Bates (Jean Varon), Andre Courneges, or Paco Rabanne. I'll be trying to determine a fiber which I can easily wear, as most of the polyester I remember from that time (since I was well, very young then) makes me break out in serious cases of the itchies now. The VA is currently running a 60's exhibit. They may have photos on their website, or books of interest to you. http://www.vam.ac.uk/collections/fashion/1960s/sixtiesfashion/index.html Dawn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Remaining patterns reduced to 60%
Please forgive the cross-posts, but I'm trying to move the remaining 133 patterns. I've decided to reduce these to the great savings of 60% discount. We still have stock in the following patterns lines: * Attic Copies - Edwardian and Vintage (3 children's patterns left) * DL Designs - two vintage hat patterns left * Eagle's View - Buckskinning * Folkwear - Ethnic, Victorian * Heirloom - Victorian and Amish style bonnets * Missouri River - buckskinning and native * Northwest Traders - buckskinning and native * Past Patterns - Victorian, Edwardian and Vintage - some great wedding gowns * Patterns of History - Edwardian wedding gown left * Pegee - Gone with the Wind and 18th century * Period Impressions - 18th century, American Civil War, Victorian * Rocking Horse Farm - 18th century, Victorian, Vintage * Smoke and Fire - men's 18th century cap pattern left * At these prices you can't go wrong, even with some of the lines which are best left to costume; use perhaps as examples of good, better, best patterns for those of you teaching units, etc., or for those wanting costume. There are still some decent patterns left in Period Impressions, mostly American Civil War (early/mid Victorian). Regards, Lorina Five Rivers Chapmanry purveyors of historical sewing patterns, quality hand-crafted cooperage, re-enactor and embroidery supplies, and more. 519-799-5577 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - www.5rivers.org ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Hi, Mine is wearing my 1860 dress that I am improving and made a day bodice for. http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/jurk.jpg I am going to wear it 9 December at an Anton Piek fair. And there is still so much that I need to do... http://www.deredere.dds.nl/19thcent/19woman/Victorian/Victorian.html Greetings, Deredere ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
My dummy currently has a Henrician kirtle on it, hung over the top since it won't actually fit the dress form, and the straps aren't finished on it anyway. I am working on the gown now, with a big skirt with train, my first train on any dress, and I am procrastinating, and not wanting to work on it so I am writing on here instead. I am almost done, too. Just don't want to sew the final panels of the skirt for some reason. But I do need to finish it. Yule for my local SCA Barony is next week, and it must get done, along with a winter partlet so I don't freeze my upper half. Kimiko Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
A box ... still not unpacked. On Fri, December 1, 2006 12:58 pm, Cin said: It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's
One: Google the designers you mentioned and don't forget Mary Quant, Biba(the store), or Ozzie Clark. The Brit invasion (of their designers) had probably a bigger impact on what most people wore than most European fashion houses. Two: If you can find one of the Dover published Fashions of the 1960's as pictured in the Sears Catalog that is a pretty good source as to what people wore. Three: Any book featuring color pics of fashions from the '60's and if you can lay your hands on some Harper's Bazaar, Vogue, Elle, or Seventeen and Glamour mags those are really valuable sources. Or take a look at what Mattel came up for Barbie and gang, especially for Barbie's Mod-ern cousin, Francie and British cousin Stacie dolls. Mattel did a Twiggy doll too and the fashions Mattel did at this time are just a time capsule of Mod fashion in doll scale. There are at least two books covering the Barbie Mattel line and those fashions. I myself wore a Carnaby street knock-off from the Sears catalog--a royal blue mini dress with white shirt-style collar and cuffs. From the collar was a faux man's four-in-hand tie in shocking pink with little white dots. Completing the look, I also had shocking pink knee-high socks, black Mary Jane shoes and the royal blue Dutch boy cap that came with the dress. I was ten and it is the first outfit I remember that 1)was the latest style, 2)all the pieces matched, and 3)didn't include a hand-me-down from my older cousins, or wasn't mother or grandmother made. In the 60's an all store-bought outfit in the mod style was a status symbol in my neighborhood. Fortunately, I was young and thin enough to wear a mini and look cute without Dad hitting the ceiling. Older girls in my neighborhood had to fight parents to wear minis and school rules that actually measured girl's skirt lengths to make sure we weren't indecent Ah, youth!! Have fun researching!! Cindy Abel -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bjarne og Leif Drews Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 9:28 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's What about try to look at the library? I know for instance the library at Museum of Decorative Arts in Copenhagen takes home all the fashion journals, and i think they have archived these. Bjarne - Original Message - From: Angharad ver' Reynulf [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's Greetings everyone! I'm popping out of lurkdom after Worldcon and Loscon to ask for help while setting up another group set of costumes for next year's Friday Night Fun. Wonder of wonders, they are pulling me out of medieval era clothing/costume and into making more early-to-mid 20th century stuff. The theme is Mod as in the mid 1960's. My tighter focus, at least in theory, is going to be closer to the items worn by Diana Riggs in the Avengers, or one of the other similar designers, but I am also finding interesting comments about a couple of other designers. I'll share a few of the ones I don't want for myself with some of the other folks doing the theme who haven't chosen yet as well. So my request is help in finding photos of garments made by John Bates (Jean Varon), Andre Courneges, or Paco Rabanne. I'll be trying to determine a fiber which I can easily wear, as most of the polyester I remember from that time (since I was well, very young then) makes me break out in serious cases of the itchies now. My husband's first vote is for the immediately identifiable first season Emma Peel leather catsuit, but I want to see a few other ideas before I make up my mind. (*grin*) Then to find a nice pair of 1940's patterns for me- one for day and one for evening! Thank you, Jonnalyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image
Ignore this--for some reason this message took a day or two to come through to the list, and I've already gotten a great image from an x-post! -E ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Lots and lots of Viking apron dresses. I've made about 5 so far this year. Now to make the tunics and smocks to wear with them. :-) -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] looking for pictures of bum rolls
That's my impression as well. Especially here: http://homepage.mac.com/muzette/Eng.File/Art/Gallery_pages/Gallery_bal.html The curve at the skirt is very sharp - as if there was a wheel farthingale. A bumroll would make a much more rounded look. Also the bend of the skirt is kind of too far from the waist, this would mean that the bumroll must have been quite large, but then it would make quite a round shape... Sharon at Collierfam.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to be that the women are wearing wheel farthingales, not bumrolls alone. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Walpole Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 12:31 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for pictures of bum rolls - Original Message - From: Robin Netherton To: Historical Costume Sent: Wednesday, November 29, 2006 6:27 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] looking for pictures of bum rolls Following up my own post (below): Here's one of the images: http://www.insecula.com/oeuvre/photo_ME057470.html The presence of rolls is very clear, particularly on the woman in the right foreground, but on some others as well. It does seem to be at the Louvre, as I was remembering. I probably have some photos of it and its mate, but I haven't gotten around to indexing all of the 500 or so slides I took in Paris ... a few years ago ... yeesh, I will never get them all straight. --Robin Aha! I found another http://homepage.mac.com/muzette/Eng.File/Art/Gallery_pages/Gallery_bal.html it's not that big but this is the one I was thinking of. Elizabeth Elizabeth Walpole Canberra Australia ewalpole[at]tpg.com.au http://au.geocities.com/amiperiodornot/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Matilda (I love naming my forms!) was wearing my mom's bunad (Norwegian National costume, but she's naked *grin* at the moment. Coming up soon, though, is a burgundy and black natural form gown for Christmas! Quia Christus perpetuo regnat, Elisabeth -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 10:59 AM To: h-cost Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing? It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.409 / Virus Database: 268.15.2/560 - Release Date: 11/30/2006 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Dawn - need contact, don't have you're off list address
Dawn, I accidently lost my person's contact info for the Holiday Gift Exhange and can't seen to find you're e-mail either. Can you send me the info off list? Sarah Nucci __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
re: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's
You're in luck! The VA London is doing Carnaby Street as their winter show. Lots of Mod, Mary Quant, one Rabanne. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] Query about Mod and the mid-1960's To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] So my request is help in finding photos of garments made by John Bates (Jean Varon), Andre Courneges, or Paco Rabanne. I'll be trying to determine a fiber which I can easily wear, as most of the polyester I remember from that time (since I was well, very young then) makes me break out in serious cases of the itchies now. Jonnalyhn Wolfcat aka Angharat ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Right now all but one are shamefully naked. That one (male) is wearing a partially made 126th century fencing doublet (leather). Another (male) has just got rid of a red C15th doublet. And a female one is about to model succession of frilly victorian concoctions. And the little one (kid) has just got rid of padded jack, and is about to be tudor. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
PS Oh, and one is about to wear a succession of (modern) clothes for flogging on ebay, with proceeds to go into weedding fund! Sadly - nothing for me as always. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
PPS of course, weeding' should read wedding ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
a partially made 126th century fencing doublet I'd like to see that... (couldn't help myself, sorry) Laurie _ Stay up-to-date with your friends through the Windows Live Spaces friends list. http://clk.atdmt.com/MSN/go/msnnkwsp007001msn/direct/01/?href=http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=createwx_url=/friends.aspxmk ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
At 18:58 01/12/2006, you wrote: It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mine is wearing padding, a shift, corset and pink check pocket hoops for a sacque I am making for a lady to wear at the Venice Carnival in February next year. There is a caraco jacket and petticoat to follow, plus three more suits, (I have made one) a waistcoat, and three shirts for her husband. Holiday, what holiday!? Suzi I'm with you, Suzi. This is my busiest season, with most of my clients wanting things for 12th Night, or Mardi Gras. Right now, Yasmine is wearing pink striped fabric that is to be a new cover for her if I ever get a minute to make it up. Over that is draped a royal blue wool cassock that needs to go out the door next Thurs. Next up is an early 17th cen. court suit in slate blue and red, trimmed in gold, made from a silk sari supplied by the customer. Not correct for the period, but it is going to look nice. I'm also trying to get a forest green trimmed with royal blue 17th cen. suit done for my husband, in my copious spare time. Melusine ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
I don't have a dressmaker's dummy, unless it's me g. My costume/clothing project du jour, though, is an interpretation of a 12th? century depiction of Philosophy. She wears a mid-calf outer gown with a fabric patterned in diamond shapes; it has modestly-wide, full-length sleeves, and does not have very full skirts. Trim bands on the sleeve hands and hem (can't tell about the neckline--it's covered by the veil.) Her inner gown has tight, wrinkled sleeves, and a hem long enough to puddle on the floor. From the wrinkles, it's much more full than the outer garment, and probably made of a fabric with a softer hand as well. I'm guessing that the original outer garment was some sort of fancy wool, or perhaps a silk brocade, and of a distinctly heavier weight than the under layer. I found some red/gold upholstery fabric that will work well as the outer garment, although it's not from authentic materials. I'd intended the under layer to be royal blue silk, but the stuff I ordered, although lovely, is a shade or so off from what I'd envisioned. So I'm not sure if I'm going to use the silk anyway, or just some lightweight, royal-blue linen that I have. I'll be wearing a standard, mid-calf, plain linen shift and wool hose with garters underneath. And turnshoes (black). The veil is hemmed, and I intend to play with it this weekend, since I've not worn many of them. I need to get my act together, though--the SCA event at which I want to wear it is in exactly two weeks! Eeek! After the Christmas rush, I'm going to have time to go back to practicing my crochet stitches for my Mrs Weasley cardigan. ;o) I've just *got* to have a HP outfit (suitable robes and all, although I'm far past the age where I'd make a believable Hogwarts student, so instead, I'm a graduate who currently has a shop in Diagon Alley). --Sue - Original Message - From: Cin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: h-cost [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 11:58 AM Subject: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing? It's that oh so fashionable time of the year. Holiday parties, gifts, theater season, formal dress of all eras. Maybe even a New Years Eve ensemble What are you working on? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
I've been making those, too, this year. Have a few in a big pile of linen and wool on my kitchen table, as a matter of fact. g Ahh, the advantages of living alone! ;o) --Sue - Original Message - From: Catherine Olanich Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 5:35 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing? Lots and lots of Viking apron dresses. I've made about 5 so far this year. Now to make the tunics and smocks to wear with them. :-) -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] A civilized society is one which tolerates eccentricity to the point of doubtful sanity. --Robert Frost ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image
Now, that is one *seriously* cool portrait, and not one I've seen before! Those undersleeves *rock!* I like the hint of an undergown in the corners of her neckline It'd definitely be a fun outfit to do, if I ever get back to the 16th century --Sue - Original Message - From: E House [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 30, 2006 1:54 PM Subject: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image Does anyone have a larger/higher resolution version of this painting? http://nationalgalleries.org/collections/artist_search.php?objectId=4764 I'm especially interested in the sleeves, but also the neckline and the headwear. -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image
- Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, that is one *seriously* cool portrait, and not one I've seen before! Those undersleeves *rock!* I like the hint of an undergown in the corners of her neckline See, this is why I love this particular stretch of time so much--they come up with so many weird variations, before settling on the 'Tudor' style... -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
If I had one, she'd be wearing a late 13th c. gown in a dark yellow wool that needs its sleeves re-done so they're properly tight, and new trim added. Over that, either a purple wool sleeveless gown or a red blanket wool sleeveless overgown that may have to become a detached-sleeve overgown. Both of those are in various stages of unfinished. I'd like to get the red one done before the end of next week but that's highly unlikely. I may have to settle for getting it done before 12th Night, with or without a fur-lined hood. /pixel ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Well she's not here yet. Santa promised me one that will fit my Queen sized figure. Margaret Decker ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image
I never quite thought of it that way, but you're right! I just really grooved with the 16th century because it was there that I found that I could make clothing that looked good on me (sort of a major revelation), plus, I got into monochrome embroidery in a very major way. It's what I'm mostly known for in the SCA (at least, I think so! ;o) And of course, when I started down the slippery slope of historical costuming, a couple of decades ago, most of what I could find for good sources on pre 17th-century clothing were are later stuff. Now, though, I've been tempted into earlier paths. I've kind of turned into a pan-european/medieval clothing and fiber geek. Most of what I'm doing is much earlier, and then there's the eventual 14th century wardrobe ;o), and the 16th century Venetian outfit to go with the blackworked camicia Never mind fibery pursuits like wanting to weave my own fabric for historical clothing Geez, I think I need to win the lottery! ;o) --Sue - Original Message - From: E House [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Historical Costume [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 01, 2006 8:16 PM Subject: Re: [h-cost] Madame de Canaples by Jean Clouet--need better image - Original Message - From: Sue Clemenger [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now, that is one *seriously* cool portrait, and not one I've seen before! Those undersleeves *rock!* I like the hint of an undergown in the corners of her neckline See, this is why I love this particular stretch of time so much--they come up with so many weird variations, before settling on the 'Tudor' style... -E House ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Be careful what you wish for, or more like, be specific. I got a Queen sized dress dummy from my DH (a MyDouble from Hancock's) a couple of years ago. But she goes in where I go out, and is bigger than I am in certain areas even at the smallest size. I had to make a brown tape dummy of me to find this out, as it won't fit my Queen sized dress form in those odd places. Now I am wishing for a different dress form, but my body is changing so I am going to wait till I stabilize. Kimiko margaret [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well she's not here yet. Santa promised me one that will fit my Queen sized figure. Margaret Decker - Access over 1 million songs - Yahoo! Music Unlimited. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Never thought about naming my little ladies. That could be fun. Thank you for the clever idea. During photographing sessions, I use the dressforms to wear original costumes in the university's fashion collection. Maybe the dressforms names could change to popular names from the period dress they are wearing. My youngest lady is a child's dressform for 19th and early 20th centuries costumes. She is wearing a beautiful red/green tartan plaid bodice and skirt from the bustle era. This was a recent donation. I had her all decked out in her full costume and photographed it. I needed to do the documentation and measurements on her, then one of the other teachers kidnapped her. My tartan lady is now in the display case with other red dresses. Maybe they are having a Red Cross Ball in the display window. Here she is: http://www.costumegallery.com/VCU/Photos/bustle/P1040081lg.jpg Another lady has on a c. 1910s white shirtwaist. The same person donated the shirtwaist. It has beautiful lace collar and bib. Here is this lady: http://www.costumegallery.com/VCU/Photos/1910/P1040106lg.jpg My third lady is naked. I have been photographing hats, so I have been playing with wig-stands instead of dressforms. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What's your dressmakers dummy wearing?
Alas, one just has a thrift-store silk scarf, and the other has a modern shirt of my husband's (picked up off the floor). I promised myself no sewing until I got my current writing project done. I AM, though, trying to make a baby cap for a friend's baby, due next week. But of course that doesn't need a form. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
