[h-cost] Re: The Golden Age/Dracula
Now that I have regained my seat after falling out of it laughing
uncontrollably; could someone help me find the historical references for Mid to
Late Chinese Drag Queen? { Good one, Marc.}
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[h-cost] Movies Re: The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > nothing to do with Romania, Transylvania, and the > 19th century, but hey, this is fiction, right? > > > > Then don't, at the beginning of the film, put up a > date in 20 ft high numbers: > > 1898 Ah, like The League of Extrodinary Gentlemen (or whatever its actual title is). Big date re: 1890s, Tom Sawyer as the ingenue and a bunch of creepy characters. But Tom Sawyer was 10-14 in the 1850s. He's still an young innocent in the 1890s?!? Eat your heart out, Dorian Gray. Which movie I enjoyed and enjoyed the costumes, but entirely separately from any historical implications. Ann in CT not lightning!! Expecting? Get great news right away with email Auto-Check. Try the Yahoo! Mail Beta. http://advision.webevents.yahoo.com/mailbeta/newmail_tools.html ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
In a message dated 7/13/2007 7:58:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: However, I think it´s a great idea to dress a vampire like a reptile! *** I agree. But without foreknowledge of her idea... the costume has nothing to do with conveying anything reptilian. Now, how does she explain making Dracula look like Leon Russell? The problem with that film goes way beyond the costumes. For one it's "Bram Stoker's" Dracula they made a big noise about following the book. Then the very 1st scene and sequence in the film is NOT in the book. Hm...looks like trouble ahead. And it is. There are some very interesting ideas in the film, but it comes across as if the producers and powers that be thought EVERY idea they had was fabulous and we'd just love them too. There's no tightening of ideas and concepts. It's literally all over the place. And, no, we don't love them all. There's something tragically wrong with every shotand it's different in each mistake. ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
On Jul 13, 2007, at 7:42 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Then don't, at the beginning of the film, put up a date in 20 ft high numbers: 1898 Yes. It's one thing to have some fantasy-based costumes in a vampire film (though perhaps we shouldn't talk about the strapless orange chiffon nightie...), but when you have a particular date, things that are quite accurate for another date are confusing. Mina's big bustles were awfully out of style for 1898! Melanie Schuessler ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
Hi, at school, we´ve got a book of Eiko Ishioka´s work with lots of pictures from all the movies she made. I remember having seen a picture of Lucy with fangs in her wedding dress next to the photo of an angry Australian lizard. Apparently, the inspiration for the ruff was not only from a historical source. However, I think it´s a great idea to dress a vampire like a reptile! Hanna At 13:36 13.07.2007, you wrote: At 12:10 13/07/2007, you wrote: > Really? What period? I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair (yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume. I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some particular place and time. And the same artist too. I recognised that in the film - nothing to do with Romania, Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is fiction, right? And the book said it was based on something else. http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg And the similar portrait: http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg Micahela de Bruce http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
In a message dated 7/13/2007 7:37:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: nothing to do with Romania, Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is fiction, right? Then don't, at the beginning of the film, put up a date in 20 ft high numbers: 1898 ** Get a sneak peak of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
At 12:10 13/07/2007, you wrote: > Really? What period? I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair (yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume. I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some particular place and time. And the same artist too. I recognised that in the film - nothing to do with Romania, Transylvania, and the 19th century, but hey, this is fiction, right? And the book said it was based on something else. http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg And the similar portrait: http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg Micahela de Bruce http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] The Golden Age(film)/Dracula
> Really? What period? I'd have to dig up the reference, but the robe and particularly the hair (yes, the butt-hair) were based on 15th-century Romanian burial costume. I'm pretty sure the book of the costumes said they were based on Kabuki costume rather than anything European. That said Lucy's wedding dress I'm sure was based on a portrait in 20,000 Years of Fashion and is early-mid 17thC. I just saw it again recently online I also found a similar painting which shows it was a fashion of some particular place and time. And the book said it was based on something else. http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b12a.jpg And the similar portrait: http://www.bildindex.de/bilder/mi06985b11a.jpg Micahela de Bruce http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
RE: [h-cost] OT: Aluminum Swan Garb Competition
Dang! I have the perfect dress. I made it in college. It was supposed to be a Renaissance dress. It is of turquoise knit sleeves and skirt, with bright blue cotton-poly bodice, trimmed with machine made flower trim. All machine sewn and a LONG zipper in back. The French hood was the crescent only, made of cardboard, with material glued on and jewels and trim attached with hot melt glue. I kept it for my kids to play dress up. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of E House Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2007 12:56 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [h-cost] OT: Aluminum Swan Garb Competition ALUMINUM SWAN GARB COMPETITION Sometimes you feel like an authenticity nut, and well, sometimes you don't. In recognition of those times when you don't, the Pre-Raphaelite Garb Yahoo list is instituting the Aluminum Swan Award, to honor the best NON-authentic garb. Taking our inspiration from the romanticized Victorian Pre-Raphaelite depictions of medieval clothing--and from Victorian costume books in general--the Pre-Raph list relishes the clothing that you thought was historical, before you knew better. The Aluminum Swan Award will be won by the person who does the best job of depicting those youthful medieval fantasies. If you were costuming the Lord of the Rings movies, what would you make? If you were the Princess Bride, what would you wear to the wedding? When you picture a damsel in distress, what does her gown look like? Are Rapunzel's dresses as long as her tresses? What does a knight in shining armor wear when he's lounging around the castle? Guidelines: -- The clothing should look as though it's from the medieval or renaissance period to the uneducated eye. -- You may use any fabric you wish, including rayon, polyester, stretch crushed velvet, gold lame, and the like. -- You may use any modern construction techniques you want, including machine sewing, serging, iron-on interfacing, and so on. -- You may purchase parts or props for your outfit, but the majority must be made by you. -- You may use elements from pre-existing garments or outfits, but may not re-use a pre-existing outfit without significantly updating it specifically for this contest. -- Several people may collaborate to submit a group entry. Entries will be judged by myself, taking into account both popular acclaim and the following criteria: -- How medieval(oid) is the overall effect? -- Would you fit in well at a Victorian fancy dress party? -- Have you taken recognizeable elements from real medieval or renaissance clothing and rearranged them to suit your own taste and/or the tastes of modern (or Victorian) fashion? -- How complex is the outfit? -- How creative is the concept? Extra credit will be awarded to anyone who can prove they've worn their entry in public, especially at a medieval or renaissance-themed event. All participants will receive an origami swan made of aluminum foil, and the winner will receive an award token as well as their choice of Pre-Raphaelite poster from http://www.allposters.com/-st/The-Pre-Raphaelite-Brotherhood-Posters_c2112_. htm up to $35 including S&H (or a $35 gift certificate towards the purchase of a more expensive poster). If a group wins, each member will receive an award token, but only one gift certificate will be awarded. To enter, please send: -- pictures of your outfit -- a short write-up -- your contact info including your address -- written permission to display your images on the Pre-Raphaelite Garb list for judging as well as on a website displaying the contest participant and winner To: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/PreRaphaeliteGarb/ or directly to me, at formfunc (at) formfunction.org. Entries must be submitted by Oct 1, 2007. Winner will be announced Oct 15, 2007, or at my convenience. -E House, List Owner, Pre-Raphaelite Garb ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
