Re: [h-cost] slops for women?

2008-02-21 Thread Kimiko Small
Just an update... I've been perusing through some Google books, and found this one. A Cyclopaedia of Costume Or Dictionary of Dress... By James Robinson Planché I think you can click this and view it: http://books.google.com/books?id=f419oz-NWDgCrview=1 Page 469 includes an entry on Slops, which

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Melanie Schuessler
If you're planning to cover up to 1600 and not just 1500-1600, you might consider expanding your talk to include discussion of 14th and 15th-century images of saints. Robin Netherton is the expert here, but I do a little version of Jeff Foxworthy's you might be a redneck if that I call

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Laning
On Feb 21, 2008, at 4:51 AM, Melanie Schuessler wrote: If you're planning to cover up to 1600 and not just 1500-1600, you might consider expanding your talk to include discussion of 14th and 15th-century images of saints. Robin Netherton is the expert here, but I do a little version of

[h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2* ( TMR 08.02.19 )

2008-02-21 Thread Chris Laning
I thought people would enjoy this review of the second volume of MCT. (It's an annual: volume 4 is due out later this spring). The reviewer is clearly delighted with it and says some nice things about how the study of clothing and textiles illuminates other aspects of medieval life. Well,

[h-cost] Crill's Chintz: Indian Textiles for the West

2008-02-21 Thread lauren . walker
Hi, I just got my copy of Rosemary Crill's Chintz: Indian Textiles for the West. Oh WOW. Eighty-eight color plates. A beautiful, wonderful, book -- and for me, kind of the Missing Link on 17th and 18th century Indian fabrics for the European and American markets. It's gorgeous. Just had to

[h-cost] Re:Finding Information

2008-02-21 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
Thank you for your wonderful advice again, I never thought to look in the back of the book for the sources where the author did the research from! This is something I got from ebay and thought it would be worth having, the original would be awesome but this is a copy of the entire book on cd

[h-cost] Re: slops for women

2008-02-21 Thread A. Thurman
Thank you for this. I've had other things going on and have not been able to follow up my original question, but slops = women's mourning clothes makes a lot of sense given the original context. Allison T. On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 7:50 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Message: 10 Date: Thu, 21

[h-cost] Help Finding Theatrical Costumes

2008-02-21 Thread Anthony Toohey
Greetings: I just joined this list and the fantasy list at the beginning of the week as these were the only costume related forums I could find. I don't want to muddy up the list with off-topic stuff, so hopefully someone here can point me in the right direction. I'm directing a play that

[h-cost] Re: black linen costume

2008-02-21 Thread FyneHats2
I want to thank everyone who gave me some ideas of what to do with my 5+ yards of black linen. It may go for bodice lining primarily, but some of the other non-monochromatic images were intriguing. (I have to stop buying material for which I have no immediate use, I keep telling myself

RE: [h-cost] Re:Finding Information

2008-02-21 Thread Schaeffer, Astrida
That does sound like a fun find, but do please be very careful of such tertiary sources (overviews and fact books that aren't actually from the period in question and just summarize information from sources which themselves MIGHT refer to the original primary source, but who knows?), especially

Re: [h-cost] Help Finding Theatrical Costumes

2008-02-21 Thread Sylvia Rognstad
You should address this to The Costumers Manifesto email list. It's a Yahoo groups list. Sylvia On Feb 21, 2008, at 12:29 PM, Anthony Toohey wrote: Greetings: I just joined this list and the fantasy list at the beginning of the week as these were the only costume related forums I could

RE: [h-cost] Help Finding Theatrical Costumes

2008-02-21 Thread Sharon Collier
Have the grey tops button up to the neck, with overlapping fronts lapels, rather like a military coat. Line the lapels with the bright colors you want. Then, by opening the neck and folding back the lapels, you'll get a quick color change. The rest of the top will still be grey, but not so

RE: [h-cost] Re: black linen costume

2008-02-21 Thread Sharon Collier
I just saw Becoming Jane last night (thanks Netflix!) and she had some very nice dresses made of linen.A dark blue walking dress, especially. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:09 PM To:

Re: [h-cost] Re: black linen costume

2008-02-21 Thread Dianne
(I have to stop buying material for which I have no immediate use, I keep telling myself but I always give in!) Many of us do that--I bought twenty-seven yards of wool in the last couple of weeks. I know where about eight of it will be used, the rest I bought because it was on sale and really

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Robin Netherton
Melanie Schuessler wrote: If you're planning to cover up to 1600 and not just 1500-1600, you might consider expanding your talk to include discussion of 14th and 15th-century images of saints. Robin Netherton is the expert here, but I do a little version of Jeff Foxworthy's you might be a

Re: [h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2*

2008-02-21 Thread Robin Netherton
Chris Laning wrote: I thought people would enjoy this review of the second volume of MCT. (It's an annual: volume 4 is due out later this spring). The reviewer is clearly delighted with it and says some nice things about how the study of clothing and textiles illuminates other aspects of

RE: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread monica spence
Hi Margaret-- Could you please reference the Bronzino paintings you wrote about? I am VERY interested ... Thanks- Monica -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of margaret Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2008 12:08 AM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re:

[h-cost] A good use for bad costume books (was: Finding Information)

2008-02-21 Thread Robin Netherton
Schaeffer, Astrida wrote: And please, please, if you have Peacock's history of costume (that one's a modern abomination), take it out and burn it. It has nothing but impossible line drawings and no facts to back anything up. If only I could make all copies disappear from library shelves

Re: [h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2*

2008-02-21 Thread Melanie Schuessler
On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Robin Netherton wrote: Reviews seem to take a long time to catch up to publications. We publish once a year, and our third volume came out in April 2007; see http://www.boydell.co.uk/43832917.HTM for contents. That volume includes a paper by listmember

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Melanie Schuessler
On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Chris Laning wrote: For instance, Robin is fond of pointing out that elaborately decorated or jeweled bands along the hemline are usually confined to queens, saints, angels and other people who don't have to worry about getting their hems dirty. ;) I'd

Re: [h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2*

2008-02-21 Thread Catherine Olanich Raymond
On Thursday 21 February 2008, Robin Netherton wrote: And now I'm working on volume 6. No rest for the wicked. Wow. Volume 6! Whatever became of Volume 5? ;-) -- Cathy Raymond [EMAIL PROTECTED] You affect the world by what you browse.-- Tim Berners-Lee

Re: [h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2*

2008-02-21 Thread Robin Netherton
Melanie Schuessler wrote: On Feb 21, 2008, at 9:06 PM, Robin Netherton wrote: Reviews seem to take a long time to catch up to publications. We publish once a year, and our third volume came out in April 2007; see http://www.boydell.co.uk/43832917.HTM for contents. That volume includes a

[h-cost] Bad books:

2008-02-21 Thread ladybeanofbunny1
After I checked my mail this morning and got all the tips about researching, starting with cconsulting the back of the book, I went and looked in the back of some of my books! One book wasn't a book on fashion, but in it the author rather studies and compares the differences between our

RE: [h-cost] Glowing review of *Medieval Clothing Textiles 2*

2008-02-21 Thread Rickard, Patty
And as my mother used to say ...and the righteous don't need any Patty And now I'm working on volume 6. No rest for the wicked. --Robin ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread margaret
There are two diffrent copies out there of a portrait of Lucrezia Panciatichi app. 1540 in a red dress one with purple under sleeves is at the Galleria degli Uffizi in Florence and one with red under sleeves whose citation I cannot of course find at the moment. I'm not sure if the second

Re: [h-cost] A good use for bad costume books

2008-02-21 Thread Andrew Trembley
Robin Netherton wrote: Schaeffer, Astrida wrote: And please, please, if you have Peacock's history of costume (that one's a modern abomination), take it out and burn it. It has nothing but impossible line drawings and no facts to back anything up. If only I could make all copies disappear from

Re: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Andrew Trembley
Melanie Schuessler wrote: On Feb 21, 2008, at 10:13 AM, Chris Laning wrote: For instance, Robin is fond of pointing out that elaborately decorated or jeweled bands along the hemline are usually confined to queens, saints, angels and other people who don't have to worry about getting their

RE: [h-cost] slops for women?

2008-02-21 Thread Wanda Pease
snip Shrove Sunday, after a goodly banket in the Parliament Chamber at Westminster, a masque was presented in which, amongst many other fancifully attired personages (the King being one), there entered six ladies, two of whom were in garments of crymosyne and purpull, made like long slops,

RE: [h-cost] looking for tudor/elizabethan references

2008-02-21 Thread Wanda Pease
If you can get a copy of Roy Strong's Elizabethan Icon book, there are portraits of sisters that are wearing the same dress but in a mirror image (one faces right, the other left). I think he suggests that paintings were made of something like this and the face put in to order. Regina (too lazy