Re: [h-cost] [ h-cost]Making history hip
The accents hit me this week while visiting Hawaii. I could pick out where tourist were from in the Southern U.S. were from by their accents. I can generally pick out a person's region of the Gulf Coast states by their accents. South Carolina accents are my personal favorites. Penny Ladnier, Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com www.costumelibrary.com www.costumeclassroom.com www.costumeencyclopedia.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regional accents, was Making history hip
On 03 Apr 2008, Kate M Bunting wrote: > Dianne wrote: > > Point was simply that it would be harder for an American to distinguish > > between regional British accents, as it would be hard for someone from > > England to distinguish between say, Michigan and Ohio. > > and Susan Carroll-Clark replied : > > >Those states in particular are a really good case in point. There isn't > >an Ohio accent--there are three or four, at least. There's the > >Cleveland/Northern accent (fairly nasal, somewhat akin to the typical > >Michigan accent), the Appalachian accent (SE part of the state, akin to > >West Virginia and eastern Kentucky), and two Midwestern accents --one a > >little more generic than the other (which involves people saying "warsh" > >for wash and "crick" for creek). > > So are there several varieties of Yorkshire accent, as it's a large county > (my mother came from East Yorks.). My original point was that Northern > English speech in general is very different from Cockney (working-class > London) speech. Even I can tell the difference between a New York and a Deep > South accent! I may not be able to tell a Tennessee accent from a Kentucky accent, but I also know better than to call something a Kentucky accent when I can't tell the difference. I've noticed a disturbing tendency among some Americans to call all british accents "Cockney", which bothers me no end. I've even heard the "pirate accent" (which is descended from Robert Newton's Cornish accent in Treasure Island) described as "Cockney" -- Chris Bertani www.goblinrevolution.org/costumes ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help finding image
Actually the simplest thing is to actually click the link google provides at the top of the frame. Google images is a search engine, not a web site and the framed page it shows up initially is not the url you should point people to. This is the correct link: http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/flemish-dress.html And scroll down. Michaela de Bruce http://glittersweet.com On 4/4/08, otsisto <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Monica, > When a url is large you can shrink it here > http://tinyurl.com/ > > Thank you, > De > > > -Original Message- > Drea Leeds has the image on her site in Black and White: > > http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/low > erclass/lcolor.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/fl > emish-dress.html&h=257&w=266&sz=69&hl=en&start=5&sig2=nrGtYqUjKybQHWDsCuquyw > &tbnid=FCajIe6J7IC0DM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=113&ei=GkL0R9XyJqmkpwTqoYG_DQ&prev=/ima > ges%3Fq%3DSixteenth%2Bcentury%2Bmiddle%2Bclass%2Bwomen%2B%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De > n%26sa%3DG > > Monica > > > > ___ > h-costume mailing list > h-costume@mail.indra.com > http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dream costume
LOL. That's my idea of invested in a costume also, earings and a bum roll! Laurie > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]> A new Ren court dress for dancing. I have the > earrings I'm basing the dress> on. Now all I have to do is find the fabrics, > trim, beads, make a corset and> hoops, get shoes, figure out a hat and make > the thing! I already have a> bumroll, so that makes the job so much easier. > :-)> Sharon> > _ More immediate than e-mail? Get instant access with Windows Live Messenger. http://www.windowslive.com/messenger/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh_instantaccess_042008 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 119
Kate, you're probably right. I was only 14 at the time and we switched to acrylics the next year. I just remember calling it "casein".The first paint was a powder which we mixed with hot water, and added pigment. The second, when I was in college, "hoof and horn", was a coarser powder, more sand like in consistency. We mixed this with water also, but it needed to be heated. Then pigment was added. I always thought they were 2 versions of the same stuff. Either way, they can be used on fabric without "bleed" from the oil in oil paint. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kate M Bunting Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 1:09 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [h-cost] h-costume Digest, Vol 7, Issue 119 Sharon Collier wrote: >. Before >acrylics, we used to make our own paint, using hoof-and-horn glue. We called it casein paint. >You mixed the ground up stuff (hooves and horns, apparently) up with >water, heated it and mixed in dry pigment. Perhaps this is what they >used in olden times for fabric. >You can still get that kind of glue-it's called "mucilage" or possibly >"hide" glue, the brown stuff that used to come in a glass bottle with >an angled rubber top. . >Another name for this might be "milk paint". This is sometimes found on >old furniture. Apparently it's a pain to remove from furniture if >you're refinishing. I've never come across it myself, but I think it's >a version of this type of casein-based paint. Are you sure you're not talking about two different things, Sharon? My understanding is that casein is a substance found in milk and cheese, but the substance extracted from hooves and horns is gelatin. Kate Bunting Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian University of Derby ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Making history hip (OT)
A new Ren court dress for dancing. I have the earrings I'm basing the dress on. Now all I have to do is find the fabrics, trim, beads, make a corset and hoops, get shoes, figure out a hat and make the thing! I already have a bumroll, so that makes the job so much easier. :-) Sharon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Cin Sent: Wednesday, April 02, 2008 11:24 AM To: h-cost Subject: Re: [h-cost] Making history hip (OT) Tangier Is has an airport & has had one for 40+ years. I've flown in there. Small planes, mind you. It's also accessible by anyone with a motorboat. You didnt need a satellite TV to pick up "foreign" or "polluting" accents. There was radio available and broadcast TV, too. None of these places are so isolated as these stories like to pretend. When I was a kid, we used to spend the morning fishing in the Chesapeake, then go to the Tangier inn & restaurant and get the world's best grits & gravy. They do have a distinctive accent, often attributed to massive inbreeding. That was probably just our Accomac county snobbery talking. I remember reading a Thomas Hardy novel, maybe Jude the Obscure, and thinking that the provincial Sussex accent mocked by another character sounded remarkably like someone from Rappahannock VA. Can we get back to our regularly scheduled topic? Here's a question for you: If you had sufficient resources to make your dream costume, what would it be? --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Most versions I have heard of this refer to Tangiers Island, which is > off of Virginia not the Carolinas, I have heard references to the Carolinas and even the Ozarks! Tangiers is still accessible only by ferry. Of course none of the various places in America I have heard touted as having a surviving 16th century accent were in fact settled in that period! > Ron Carnegie ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Help finding image
Monica, When a url is large you can shrink it here http://tinyurl.com/ Thank you, De -Original Message- Drea Leeds has the image on her site in Black and White: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/low erclass/lcolor.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.elizabethancostume.net/lowerclass/fl emish-dress.html&h=257&w=266&sz=69&hl=en&start=5&sig2=nrGtYqUjKybQHWDsCuquyw &tbnid=FCajIe6J7IC0DM:&tbnh=109&tbnw=113&ei=GkL0R9XyJqmkpwTqoYG_DQ&prev=/ima ges%3Fq%3DSixteenth%2Bcentury%2Bmiddle%2Bclass%2Bwomen%2B%26gbv%3D2%26hl%3De n%26sa%3DG Monica ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Allegorical paintings (was: issues documenting)
No prob, Kimiko. That's why I have a library so I can have all those cool books. --cin Cynthia Barnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted by: "Kimiko Small" [EMAIL PROTECTED] sstormwatch Date: Wed Apr 2, 2008 12:48 pm ((PDT)) Thank you to everyone who has helped to explain allegorical images for me. I am still a bit confused, but it seems I have a lot of learning in front of me on this. And thank you Cynthia for your book recommendation. I now have it on my wish list. Kimiko ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Dream Costume (was Making history hip (OT)
I'm torn between gorgeous 50's evening gowns or an 1860 gown.Not sure where I would wear either gown but it would be fun. Sidney On Thu, Apr 3, 2008 at 7:14 AM, Katy Bishop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I made that dress years ago for a bride--she had the perfect figure > and personality for it. When she first called me, after trying > several other bridal dressmakers, who had barely even heard of Gone > With The Wind, she was thrilled when I knew exactly the dress she was > talking about immediately. She was so cute. In deference to her > fiance's family we made it in pale pink, but it had all the feathers > and rhinestones. I ended up just calling her Scarlett by the end of > our fittings. There were some fun brides among the boring or > difficult ones. > > Katy > > On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 3:17 PM, Suzi Clarke <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 21:01 02/04/2008, you wrote: > > > > > > Can we get back to our regularly scheduled topic? Here's a > question > > > > for you: If you had sufficient resources to make your dream > costume, > > > > what would it be? > > > > --cin > > > > > >LOL! It would be made by someone else, of course! > > > > > >I think I would tend toward some kind of big poofy cinderella fantasy > > >style dress dripping with beads and hand work, though who knows where > > >I'd wear it. > > > > > > http://www.geocities.com/mm_civil_war1/GWTW_Scarlett.html > > > > This, but I'd need someone to make me the right shape to wear it!! (I > > think if you could roll me out like making a sausage, my short fat > > body would become tall and slim - fat chance!) > > > > Suzi > > > > > > > -- > Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian > [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.VintageVictorian.com > Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. > Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. > ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Regional accents, was Making history hip
Dianne wrote: > Point was simply that it would be harder for an American to distinguish > between regional British accents, as it would be hard for someone from > England to distinguish between say, Michigan and Ohio. and Susan Carroll-Clark replied : >Those states in particular are a really good case in point. There isn't >an Ohio accent--there are three or four, at least. There's the >Cleveland/Northern accent (fairly nasal, somewhat akin to the typical >Michigan accent), the Appalachian accent (SE part of the state, akin to >West Virginia and eastern Kentucky), and two Midwestern accents --one a >little more generic than the other (which involves people saying "warsh" >for wash and "crick" for creek). So are there several varieties of Yorkshire accent, as it's a large county (my mother came from East Yorks.). My original point was that Northern English speech in general is very different from Cockney (working-class London) speech. Even I can tell the difference between a New York and a Deep South accent! Kate Bunting Cataloguing & Data Quality Librarian University of Derby ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
