Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[stilskin]

I have a great set of tailoring manuals, The Modern Tailor & Outfitter by 
Percival Thickett; this contains a great pattern for jodhpurs if you don't mind 
the trouble of draughting -- even my dodgy legs look goot sticking out from 
them -- you may be able to find the books at a larger library.

Oh, it also has some photos of pleasing window displays, information on 
accounting for tailors and photos of a good tailoring workshop -- good if you 
have a staff of a hundred and enough room to store an aircraft!

-C.



This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au

___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[albertcat]

How about these?


http://www.harriets.com/wwipatterns.htm





-Original Message-
From: Pierre & Sandy Pettinger 
To: Historical Costume 
Sent: Tue, Mar 30, 2010 12:14 am
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?


Sportsmans Guide has 2 styles of military surplus jodhpurs that might fit the 
bill - they're inexpensive, and could be disassembled for a basic pattern.  I 
think the 2nd one is closer to what you're looking for: 
 
German: 
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=70039 
 
Italian: 
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=511204 
 
HTH, 
Sandy 
 
At 11:30 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote: 
>An acquaintance is looking for a pattern for men's jodhpurs -- 
>specifically the exaggerated military style of the early 20th century. 
>  I would have thought this would be fairly easy to find, but I'm not 
>spotting anyone who has such a pattern.  Anyone know of a good source? 
> 
>Thanks in advance, 
> 
>Ulrika O'Brien 
 
"Those Who Fail to Learn History 
Are Doomed to Repeat It; 
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly - 
Why They Are Simply Doomed." 
 
Achemdro'hm 
"The Illusion of Historical Fact" 
-- C. Y. 4971 
 
Andromeda  
___ 
h-costume mailing list 
h-costume@mail.indra.com 
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 

 
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[Pierre & Sandy Pettinger]

Sportsmans Guide has 2 styles of military surplus jodhpurs that might 
fit the bill - they're inexpensive, and could be disassembled for a 
basic pattern.  I think the 2nd one is closer to what you're looking for:


German:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=70039

Italian:
http://www.sportsmansguide.com/net/cb/cb.aspx?a=511204

HTH,
Sandy

At 11:30 AM 3/29/2010, you wrote:

An acquaintance is looking for a pattern for men's jodhpurs --
specifically the exaggerated military style of the early 20th century.
 I would have thought this would be fairly easy to find, but I'm not
spotting anyone who has such a pattern.  Anyone know of a good source?

Thanks in advance,

Ulrika O'Brien


"Those Who Fail to Learn History
Are Doomed to Repeat It;
Those Who Fail To Learn History Correctly -
Why They Are Simply Doomed."

Achemdro'hm
"The Illusion of Historical Fact"
-- C. Y. 4971

Andromeda 


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs

[albertcat]

I used to have 2 pair of the old fashioned Jodhpurs with the wide thighs. One 
was navy wool broad cloth, the other brown corduroy. Both had button flies and 
brown leather patches on the inner thigh that stopped a little below the knee 
in a rounded shape. These were added over the already sewn inseam. They were 
cut just like regular pants but for the wide thigh part, a wider flair of the 
legs away from CF and a horizontal seam behind the knee... the back legs were 
two pieces each, the behind the knee seam where they joined was slightly curved 
to remove fabric when the knee was bent. ( imagine a fish dart taken behind the 
kneesbut the ends end at the inseam and outseam.) I believe the front part 
was slightly eased at the knee but it's hard to tell. All seams flat felled. 
The legs were narrow below the knee and open at the outseam. One (the brown) 
closed by eyelets and lacing and there was a single long 1" -2" wide cotton 
tape sewn at the bottom. Don't know why. The other (!
 blue) I don't remember how it closed, but I don't remember buttons or hooks 
and eyes. It might have laced too, but I think it was different somehow. 


Anyway, after I worked on "Interview with the Vampire" I made a pair of 
jodhpurs basted on these I had but with a half fall front, like 18th century 
breeches. Out of a wonderful nubbly, light brown colored linen/cotton mix with 
leather patches and laces and real horn buttons. It was meant as women's sports 
wear, but it never sold until I took the flared thighs in to be like normal 
pants.





-Original Message-
From: landofoz 
To: Historical Costume 
Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 7:56 pm
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs


 
 
> Jean Hardy is still producing Jodhpurs patterns. 
> http://www.jeanhardypatterns.com/patterns.htm 
> 
> I know there is at least one vintage sewing pattern for them, 
> 
 
As far as I can tell, none of these are the type of jods the OP was asking for. 
Stretch breeches and saddle-seat jods, but not military style jods.  I didn't 
keep the OP, but I think the old-fashioned military style with the flared legs 
above the knee and fitted below were described. 
 
Denise B 
 
But thank you for the link! I like some of these better than the ones at 
Suitability.  
___ 
h-costume mailing list 
h-costume@mail.indra.com 
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 

 
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Anglo Saxon Cyrtel page

[Catherine Olanich Raymond]

On Monday 29 March 2010 10:58:38 pm Sharon Nevin wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> If it is the page I think it is, a few months ago spent some time trying to
>  find it again with no luck.
> I just tried
> http://home.insight.rr.com/cains/documentation/spin.html
> in the way back machine at
> http://www.archive.org/index.php
> 
> and  some  of  it is coming up this time. Unfortunately not all of the
> photos are doing so.

Thanks for finding that link from the Wayback Machine; that is what I was  
referring to and trying to find for Stacey.  You are correct; not all the 
photographs come up.  But the text and some of the photos are preserved.

-- 

Cathy Raymond 

"No one can make as disastrous a bad choice as a smart person, because they 
sell it to themselves really well."--Tobias Buckell

___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Anglo Saxon Cyrtel page

[Sharon Nevin]

Hi,

If it is the page I think it is, a few months ago spent some time trying to find
it again with no luck.
I just tried
http://home.insight.rr.com/cains/documentation/spin.html
in the way back machine at
http://www.archive.org/index.php

and  some  of  it is coming up this time. Unfortunately not all of the
photos are doing so.

Sharon Nevin


> chimene

>>Hello,
>>
>>I'm trying to find information on a re-enactor's page.  This woman did an
>>amazing project of handspinning, dying, weaving and hand sewing a Dark Ages
>>tunic dress.  It was wonderfully photographed, and informative.  However, I
>>can't find the page!  Every link I find comes to a dead end.  Does anyone
>>else remember this project, and was it backed up anywhere?  Did this woman
>>eventually start a blog of her handwork?
>>
>>This is especially necessary for me since I cite her work when I do spinning
>>and weaving demos.
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Stacey
>


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Anglo Saxon Cyrtel page

[Patricia Dunham]

Was this the one that came out sort of pinky/mauve and white 
herringbone in the fabric?  Because her dye didn't work quite the way 
she had envisioned?  Lots of lovely pictures of the stages down in 
her garden (from an upper story balcony???)  My husband's immediate 
response was "New Zealand?" and that does feel right...


Do you have a name or an old URL??  I've been looking for the "pink 
project" for about a half hour with no luck so far... but I'm pretty 
hooked on finding it by now, 8-)


chimene


Hello,

I'm trying to find information on a re-enactor's page.  This woman did an
amazing project of handspinning, dying, weaving and hand sewing a Dark Ages
tunic dress.  It was wonderfully photographed, and informative.  However, I
can't find the page!  Every link I find comes to a dead end.  Does anyone
else remember this project, and was it backed up anywhere?  Did this woman
eventually start a blog of her handwork?

This is especially necessary for me since I cite her work when I do spinning
and weaving demos.

Thanks,

Stacey

___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Anglo Saxon Cyrtel page

[Stacey Dunleavy]

Hello,

I'm trying to find information on a re-enactor's page.  This woman did an
amazing project of handspinning, dying, weaving and hand sewing a Dark Ages
tunic dress.  It was wonderfully photographed, and informative.  However, I
can't find the page!  Every link I find comes to a dead end.  Does anyone
else remember this project, and was it backed up anywhere?  Did this woman
eventually start a blog of her handwork?

This is especially necessary for me since I cite her work when I do spinning
and weaving demos.

Thanks,

Stacey
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs

[landofoz]

Jean Hardy is still producing Jodhpurs patterns.
http://www.jeanhardypatterns.com/patterns.htm

I know there is at least one vintage sewing pattern for them,




As far as I can tell, none of these are the type of jods the OP was asking 
for. Stretch breeches and saddle-seat jods, but not military style jods.  I 
didn't keep the OP, but I think the old-fashioned military style with the 
flared legs above the knee and fitted below were described.


Denise B

But thank you for the link! I like some of these better than the ones at 
Suitability. 


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] A strange question

[Margo Anderson]

My first Twelfthnight costume was in 1973.  I don't know what Margo  
was

doing that long ago,


I was in high school. :)  I made a few costumes for school plays, and  
went to my first Renaissance Faire at Black Point.  Most of my sewing  
went into my personal wardrobe, as I was attempting to rock the Janis  
Joplin Rich Hippie look.


It was a few years later that I really started to understand what  
serious historical costume was supposed to look like.  Kayta had a  
hand in that, after I met her in Golden Gate Park when her group was  
having a historical theme picnic in a reserved area, and my friends  
and I had shown up with no permit or reservation to do a Pagan  
ritual.  The were very nice and understanding to flaky us, and I  
thought what they were doing looked like a whole lot of fun.


So be nice to the newbies, you never know who you might be inspiring!

Margo
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] 1920's fashions

[Sharon Collier]

A friend just gave me some of her old costume books, and among them was a
Dover publication, "Everyday Fashions of the Twenties, as pictured in Sears
and other catalogs"
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs

[Michelle Lee]

Jean Hardy is still producing Jodhpurs patterns.
http://www.jeanhardypatterns.com/patterns.htm

I know there is at least one vintage sewing pattern for them,

regards,

Michelle Lee
owner
Patterns from the Past
www.oldpatterns.com
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[SPaterson]

I have at least two cutting manuals from the turn of the century that have 
them in them - the Climax System being the first one that comes to mind


Sarah Paterson / Bess Darnley

- Original Message - 
From: "Ulrika O'Brien" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 1:30 PM
Subject: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?



An acquaintance is looking for a pattern for men's jodhpurs --
specifically the exaggerated military style of the early 20th century.
I would have thought this would be fairly easy to find, but I'm not
spotting anyone who has such a pattern.  Anyone know of a good source?

Thanks in advance,

Ulrika O'Brien
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[landofoz]

Suitablity used to have a women's version, but I don't see it on their web 
site anymore. Only stretch breeches.


Maybe you could search ebay or similar sources for older Suitability 
patterns.
Denise B 


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] Jodhpurs Pattern?

[Ulrika O'Brien]

An acquaintance is looking for a pattern for men's jodhpurs --
specifically the exaggerated military style of the early 20th century.
 I would have thought this would be fairly easy to find, but I'm not
spotting anyone who has such a pattern.  Anyone know of a good source?

Thanks in advance,

Ulrika O'Brien
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] library sources

[annbwass]

That Time-Life "Decades" series is more than 20 years old. Newspaper microfilm 
is generally held permanently.


Yes, I used them in the late 1980s-early 1990s, when I was doing research for 
theater costume classes.  I guess the only hazard is that, as they are so old, 
some libraries might have decided to get rid of them!

Ann Wass






-Original Message-
From: Mary + Doug Piero Carey 
To: h-cost...@indra.com
Sent: Mon, Mar 29, 2010 7:57 am
Subject: [h-cost] library sources


Whether that's so varies greatly from library to library, but even if true in 
your area, the type of thing Ann is talking about would have been purchased 
long ago. That Time-Life "Decades" series is more than 20 years old. Newspaper 
microfilm is generally held permanently. Costume history books rarely get 
discarded even when we ought to. None of which negates the problem of turning 
those images into electrons, of course. 
 
Mary, the Periodicals librarian 
 
On 3/29/2010 7:40 AM, Denise B. said 
> As for the public library, I'd be surprised if they*were* there - even in 
> the larger public library in the university town. Public libraries spend 
> very little of their budget on non-fiction these days. 
___ 
h-costume mailing list 
h-costume@mail.indra.com 
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 

___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

[h-cost] library sources

[Mary + Doug Piero Carey]

Whether that's so varies greatly from library to library, but even if 
true in your area, the type of thing Ann is talking about would have 
been purchased long ago.  That Time-Life "Decades" series is more than 
20 years old.  Newspaper microfilm is generally held permanently.  
Costume history books rarely get discarded even when we ought to.  None 
of which negates the problem of turning those images into electrons, of 
course.


Mary, the Periodicals librarian

On 3/29/2010 7:40 AM, Denise B. said

As for the public library, I'd be surprised if they*were*  there - even in
the larger public library in the university town. Public libraries spend
very little of their budget on non-fiction these days.

___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] google images

[AnnBWass]

In a message dated 3/29/2010 7:33:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
lando...@netins.net writes:

Teachers  encourage them to find everything on the web. 
And, alas, they don't always seem to teach how to evaluate sources--the  
judges at the history event discussed that, too.  (A long time ago, there  was 
a Dudley Doright episode where Snidely Whiplash published in his own  
newspaper that he was Dudley's long lost brother.  Dudley reacted with, "If  
it's 
in the newspaper, it must be true."  How much more so do people assume  
that for "the Web"--if it's on the Web, it must be true.) 
 
Ann Wass
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] google images

[landofoz]

Just judged a history event last weekend, and I'm surprised that students
no longer seem to know about print sources.  Could she get some of what 
she

needs from them?  Examples--Time-Life Books did a series a while ago about
life in different decades, and I would be surprised if they weren't in 
your

public library.  And, if you are anywhere near a large city public library
or university/college library, you should be able to access original
magazines  and newspapers on microfilm.  Most university/college libraries 
allow

access for library use only.



Teachers encourage them to find everything on the web. The assignment is 
created on the laptop provided by the school, submitted electronically, etc. 
If they were to use a book source, they would have to find a scanner to 
capture the image, save the file, etc. before using it in their assignment. 
You know how all that extra "clicking" with the mouse can wear a person 
out...:-/


As for the public library, I'd be surprised if they *were* there - even in 
the larger public library in the university town. Public libraries spend 
very little of their budget on non-fiction these days. Computers, computer 
programs, computer upkeep, and dvd titles take up much of the budget after 
popular fiction and children's books.



Denise B 


___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] google images

[AnnBWass]

In a message dated 3/29/2010 2:28:47 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
michaela.de.br...@gmail.com writes:

My  daughter is trying to gather some images from google on women in 1920s 
era  advertising. Every time she clicks on an image,
 
Just judged a history event last weekend, and I'm surprised that students  
no longer seem to know about print sources.  Could she get some of what she  
needs from them?  Examples--Time-Life Books did a series a while ago about  
life in different decades, and I would be surprised if they weren't in your 
 public library.  And, if you are anywhere near a large city public library 
 or university/college library, you should be able to access original 
magazines  and newspapers on microfilm.  Most university/college libraries 
allow  
access for library use only. 
 
Ann Wass  
___
h-costume mailing list
h-costume@mail.indra.com
http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume

Re: [h-cost] FW: Spring Fling Blowout Sale - Take 30% off Patterns &Trims at Simplicity.com!

[Sharon Collier]

I have no idea where all the weird links came from. I just got an email from

simplicity.com
Weird!
Sharon 

-Original Message-
From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On
Behalf Of Sharon Collier
Sent: Saturday, March 27, 2010 3:06 PM
To: 'Historical Costume'
Subject: [h-cost] FW: Spring Fling Blowout Sale - Take 30% off Patterns
&Trims at Simplicity.com!

There are some Martha McCain historical patterns left in the out of print
section, if anyone is interested.

  _  

  

 
 simplicity
creative group  
  Patterns
 Apparel
 & Craft
Trims   Ribbon
 Tapes

Appliques
 Sewing
 & Quilting
New Products
 



 
 Spring
Patterns Spring Fling Sale! 


Have a style Spring Fling at Simplicity.com
  and enjoy
huge savings! From now until March 31st, 2010, receive an additional 30% off
on Patterns
 * and
Apparel
 & Craft
Trims. Simply use code SPRING30 at checkout and indulge in fresh new
fashions and adorable crafts, made even more special with trims - shop our
Trim
 Department
for one of the widest selections on the web. *Excludes New Look and It's So
Easy Patterns. 


New Catalogs! 
(Shown
 Left) Have
the luxury of shopping the same Simplicity and New Look catalogs found in
stores, right in your own home - shop www.simplicity.com
  and get
your catalog
  today!