Re: [h-cost] dress forms
I could not agree more. They are very easy to alter for short-term or long-term use (or even weight gain/loss for personal sewing). I use them in the museum displays because I cannot afford of the period' mannequins. I recommend them. And when I have repadded or corsetted them, I slip a tight t-shirt or camisole over them for a smooth surface. On 5/28/10 12:31 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: For all the whining about the foam dummies, I'd just like to make clear that they are heads shoulders grin bettter than any other option. It's not hard to bob the exaggerated bits. It took only minutes to change excess boobage into protrusive shoulderblades. I cant stick pins in my plaster cast dummy. He was however, free, so I keep him. Foam squeezes just a little more to reshape just a smidge when you want to try a new style of corsetry. Plaster, paper tape dummies deform the underlying body you're trying to model. Dial-a dummies are just plain inadequate for most people. Really, there's no other sensible option: get a foam dummy. Pad her out with ace bandages, give her a boob-lift with a stocking full of birdseed, buy several covers and do one each for your corseted, bullet-bra natural shapes,. Sew her an arm for a sleeve form pin it to the cover when you need it. They last for years! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Posted by: foureverfaire foureverfa...@yahoo.com foureverfaire Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 pm (PDT) Though i don't have a dress form myself, i have frirends that do and i've heard others talk about having the same challenge of having to cut down parts of the Uniquely You Dress forms. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC for a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only found out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it. Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even back views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's interest I can put them on Flickr or the like. Allison T. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction Message-ID: aanlktim4gctdb8asnvi5dcjd-_drgtix42ah5c_uv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
I saw this exhibit at the embassy in DC. Most of the reconstructions are very good, but one had me wondering -- the gown was actually below the bosom so all you saw on top was the chemise over the mannequin's boobs! The neckline of the gown was at ribcage level. Kathleen Novell -Original Message- From: A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Fri, May 28, 2010 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC or a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only ound out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it. Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even ack views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's nterest I can put them on Flickr or the like. Allison T. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction Message-ID: aanlktim4gctdb8asnvi5dcjd-_drgtix42ah5c_uv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction
I would love to see the photos! I almost made an Eleonora gown as part of my final project in college. Katy On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:46 PM, A. Thurman athur...@gmail.com wrote: I think this is the same exhibit that was at the Italian Embassy in DC for a couple of weeks in 2008. It too wasn't well publicized - I only found out about it by luck and had to make an appointment to see it. Very, very good, because I could get very close to everything and even back views of some of the reconstructions. I have photos; if there's interest I can put them on Flickr or the like. Allison T. On Fri, May 28, 2010 at 2:00 PM, h-costume-requ...@indra.com wrote: Date: Thu, 27 May 2010 15:27:42 -0700 From: Wicked Frau wickedf...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com, therenaissancetai...@yahoogroups.com Subject: [h-cost] New to me - Historic Clothing Reconstruction Message-ID: aanlktim4gctdb8asnvi5dcjd-_drgtix42ah5c_uv...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 http://www.kingstudio.it/ I must have been asleep in 2004. How did I miss this exhibit in NY??? Very cool. Sg ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- Katy Bishop, Vintage Victorian katybisho...@gmail.comwww.VintageVictorian.com Custom reproduction gowns of the Victorian Era. Publisher of the Vintage Dress Series books. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dress forms
I have a foam dummy, and I love her (she's named Bessie Blunt, since I had to whack her breasts and was working on Tudor clothing at the time). Cin, what sort of stocking do you suggest using for the bird seed? And why how ace bandages for padding? I padded mine with poly batting in the areas I needed, under the cover. I'm just picturing the ace bandage going round and round the body - and that doesn't seem right so I am thinking you are doing something different. Thank you, Kimiko Kimiko Small http://www.kimiko1.com Be the change you want to see in the world. ~ Ghandi The Tudor Lady's Wardrobe pattern http://www.margospatterns.com/ From: Cin cinbar...@gmail.com Really, there's no other sensible option: get a foam dummy. Pad her out with ace bandages, give her a boob-lift with a stocking full of birdseed, ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dress forms
Just be careful in museum settings-- they are not archivally sound, they outgas. Astrida From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. [manordto...@stthomas.edu] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dress forms I could not agree more. They are very easy to alter for short-term or long-term use (or even weight gain/loss for personal sewing). I use them in the museum displays because I cannot afford of the period' mannequins. I recommend them. And when I have repadded or corsetted them, I slip a tight t-shirt or camisole over them for a smooth surface. On 5/28/10 12:31 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: For all the whining about the foam dummies, I'd just like to make clear that they are heads shoulders grin bettter than any other option. It's not hard to bob the exaggerated bits. It took only minutes to change excess boobage into protrusive shoulderblades. I cant stick pins in my plaster cast dummy. He was however, free, so I keep him. Foam squeezes just a little more to reshape just a smidge when you want to try a new style of corsetry. Plaster, paper tape dummies deform the underlying body you're trying to model. Dial-a dummies are just plain inadequate for most people. Really, there's no other sensible option: get a foam dummy. Pad her out with ace bandages, give her a boob-lift with a stocking full of birdseed, buy several covers and do one each for your corseted, bullet-bra natural shapes,. Sew her an arm for a sleeve form pin it to the cover when you need it. They last for years! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Posted by: foureverfaire foureverfa...@yahoo.com foureverfaire Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 pm (PDT) Though i don't have a dress form myself, i have frirends that do and i've heard others talk about having the same challenge of having to cut down parts of the Uniquely You Dress forms. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dress forms
Not all of them; be careful of foam type. And you can always wrap them in inert plastic, too. From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Schaeffer, Astrida [astrida.schaef...@unh.edu] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 8:09 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dress forms Just be careful in museum settings-- they are not archivally sound, they outgas. Astrida From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. [manordto...@stthomas.edu] Sent: Friday, May 28, 2010 1:39 PM To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] dress forms I could not agree more. They are very easy to alter for short-term or long-term use (or even weight gain/loss for personal sewing). I use them in the museum displays because I cannot afford of the period' mannequins. I recommend them. And when I have repadded or corsetted them, I slip a tight t-shirt or camisole over them for a smooth surface. On 5/28/10 12:31 PM, Cin cinbar...@gmail.com wrote: For all the whining about the foam dummies, I'd just like to make clear that they are heads shoulders grin bettter than any other option. It's not hard to bob the exaggerated bits. It took only minutes to change excess boobage into protrusive shoulderblades. I cant stick pins in my plaster cast dummy. He was however, free, so I keep him. Foam squeezes just a little more to reshape just a smidge when you want to try a new style of corsetry. Plaster, paper tape dummies deform the underlying body you're trying to model. Dial-a dummies are just plain inadequate for most people. Really, there's no other sensible option: get a foam dummy. Pad her out with ace bandages, give her a boob-lift with a stocking full of birdseed, buy several covers and do one each for your corseted, bullet-bra natural shapes,. Sew her an arm for a sleeve form pin it to the cover when you need it. They last for years! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Posted by: foureverfaire foureverfa...@yahoo.com foureverfaire Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 pm (PDT) Though i don't have a dress form myself, i have frirends that do and i've heard others talk about having the same challenge of having to cut down parts of the Uniquely You Dress forms. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] dress forms
I'll have to agree with Cin, here. I love my foam dummy, although she's been relegated to storage for some time now. Part of that MAY have been my memories of the hysterical laughter when my husband and I unboxed her. We spent about an hour admiring her excessive and, well PERKY boobage. He's not even a costumer but boy did we have fun about her! She's a pleasant thought on a dark day :) Corset her and she's fine for whatever era. Sure fitting is a pain, but isn't it always? == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW http://3toad.blogspot.com/ On May 28, 2010, at 10:31 AM, Cin wrote: For all the whining about the foam dummies, I'd just like to make clear that they are heads shoulders grin bettter than any other option. It's not hard to bob the exaggerated bits. It took only minutes to change excess boobage into protrusive shoulderblades. I cant stick pins in my plaster cast dummy. He was however, free, so I keep him. Foam squeezes just a little more to reshape just a smidge when you want to try a new style of corsetry. Plaster, paper tape dummies deform the underlying body you're trying to model. Dial-a dummies are just plain inadequate for most people. Really, there's no other sensible option: get a foam dummy. Pad her out with ace bandages, give her a boob-lift with a stocking full of birdseed, buy several covers and do one each for your corseted, bullet-bra natural shapes,. Sew her an arm for a sleeve form pin it to the cover when you need it. They last for years! --cin Cynthia Barnes cinbar...@gmail.com Posted by: foureverfaire foureverfa...@yahoo.com foureverfaire Thu May 27, 2010 12:38 pm (PDT) Though i don't have a dress form myself, i have frirends that do and i've heard others talk about having the same challenge of having to cut down parts of the Uniquely You Dress forms. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments
The posts on dummies are reminding me to write this request. I am putting on an exhibition next year of 200-year old garments that are too small for the standard sized dummy/mannequin - I probably need ones the size of a thin 12-year old girl. Can you recommend anywhere online where I can purchase nice-looking foam dummies/mannequins for display of extant garments? I really want people to see the gowns in 3D instead of lying flat in boxes. I have purchased dummies in the past from http://www.tinnafashion.com but the shoulders and chests are too broad. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia http://www.janeaustenfestival.com.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments
Hi there, I know that in the past, although it was out of my budget, there is a place that sells foam mannequins that can be cut with a special tool. I don't know where this was exactly because I had the link on my old computer over three years ago but this is a place saved in my new favourites. While this may not be the recommended way to display old pieces, if you are really in a pinch and need something specific, I could recommend a home-made form as I have been using for my Victorian collection displays. NOT suitable of course for long term display but as I said, good for a pinch. The link to the site is: http://www.anatomic.net/ They may or may not do custom. If they do however, it will likely cost and depending on the scale of your exhibit and budget it may or may not be worth it. Note: This works for dresses only. Now, this will sound super cheesy but it does work if you have a somewhat creative, sculptural mind. Most of what you would need is from the home improvement center. Get a roll of chicken wire, the stuff with the hexagon openings in it. It comes in a couple widths, I buy the stuff that is 36 high since most torsos are not longer than that. As many wooden stair posts as you would need, some thin wood, nails, batting, and muslin. Basically what you do, is make a stand with the post and some of the wood. On top of that you cut a piece out that is the shape and span of the hip line of your garment. The total length of the garment's torso down to the hipline gets made from the chicken wire so you will need to cut that to just a little longer than what you need and about 4 inches (more or less if wanted) wider than the hip measure or widest measure of the torso if it isn't the hip. The wire will be folded in and you reach into the wire and twist the cut ends to secure the tube closed. Wear heavy gloves and long sleeves for this because the wire is sharp! The tube of wire gets fixed to the piece of wood on the stand, the chicken wire stapled or tucked under the wood so as to make a smooth hip line at the bottom. *No cut edges of wire should be exposed when you are through, they should all be secured together and tucked under inside the tube so they will not snag on any material or poke through. It is easier to just fold any excess wire at the top inside at the neckline. This will make a stronger and safer opening than just cutting to length. Once you have your wire attached to the stand is when the creative part begins. You have to more or less bend and form the wire, sculpting it to the correct shape, proportions, measurements of the garment. You can test for fit and continue to readjust until the garment fits well. It should be the right fit but a little smaller to accommodate the following steps. ?Once the wire is sculpted into the correct torso form, take the batting and cover the wire as neatly and tightly as possible and just drape the form with unbleached washed cotton muslin. It should be washed without detergents so as to be safest against the fabrics. You literally just drape it to the form and hand stitch into place just to cover the batting. In areas where the garment fits loosely, take some pieces of torn or fluffed up batting or acid free tissue paper and gently stuff it until it fits well. This step I usually hold off on until I am setting up the display. Be reminded this is NOT ideal for long term display but will really get you by in a quick pinch and the best part is that they are completely custom sized for each garment! You can get little yard sale tags too and label each form and tie them to the inside neckline of each form for future use because, believe me, once they are naked they are difficult to tell apart. If you cannot locate what you are looking for and decide to give my home made display form technique a try, please let me know how it worked out for your or if you have any questions. Take care and good luck:) Regards, Justine Jackson. lady_of_bris...@yahoo.com www.DVLGS.org -Original Message- From: Aylwen Gardiner-Garden lt;aylwe...@gmail.comgt; To: Historical Costume lt;h-cost...@indra.comgt; Sent: Sat, May 29, 2010 12:40 am Subject: [h-cost] Preparing an exhibition of historical garments The posts on dummies are reminding me to write this request. I am putting on an exhibition next year of 200-year old garments that are too small for the standard sized dummy/mannequin - I probably need ones the size of a thin 12-year old girl. Can you recommend anywhere online where I can purchase nice-looking foam dummies/mannequins for display of extant garments? I really want people to see the gowns in 3D instead of lying flat in boxes. I have purchased dummies in the past from http://www.tinnafashion.com but the shoulders and chests are too broad. Bye for now, Aylwen Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy http://www.earthlydelights.com.au Director, Jane Austen Festival Australia