[h-cost] St Germain's Hose

2010-09-25 Thread Althea Turner
Does anyone know which museum the garment known as St Germain's hose  
is in?

Is there a better picture than the one in Kohler?

Any other images of extant hose, from 4-8th century?

thanks!


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Re: [h-cost] St Germain's Hose

2010-09-25 Thread Heather Rose Jones

On Sep 25, 2010, at 6:16 PM, Althea Turner wrote:

 Does anyone know which museum the garment known as St Germain's hose is in?
 Is there a better picture than the one in Kohler?
 

The items is pictured and described in:

Schmedding, Brigitta. 1978.  Mittelalterliche Textilien in Kirchen und Klostern 
der Schweiz. Abegg Stiftung, Bern.

which indicates that (at that date) it was held at the Jurassien Museum, 
Delemont, Switzerland.

There's also a photo of it in Boucher's 20,000 Years of Fashion.  Note that 
the authors I've seen discussing this item agree that the association with St. 
Germain (and thus the supposed 7th century date) is certainly false.  
Schmedding is of the opinion that a 12th c. date is more likely.

 Any other images of extant hose, from 4-8th century?

You don't mention whether you're looking for a specific geographic area.  There 
are a few Egyptian nalebinding socks from that general era (Burnham, Dorothy.  
1972.  Coptic Knitting: An Ancient Technique.   Textile History 3 (Dec. 1972), 
116-124.) but they're of a style that seems unlikely to have been popular in 
Europe.

A little earlier than your date-range, there's a pair of woolen cut-and-sewn 
socks from 1st-2nd c. France  (currently at Musée Bargoin, Clermont-Ferrand, 
France).  They're published in a number of places, although none that are 
particularly easy to access.  Probably the most likely to be available is: 

Desrosiers, Sophie  Alexandra Lorquin.  1998.  Gallo-Roman Period 
Archaeological Textiles found in France in Textiles in European Archaeology 
(NESAT Symposium 6) ed. Lise Bender Jørgensen  Christina Rinaldo.  Göteborg.

After that, the earliest sock/hose-like items I've been able to identify in 
Europe are include the ca. 10-11th c. nalebinding sock from York (Walton, 
Penelope.  1990.  Textile production at Coppergate, York: Anglo-Saxon or 
Viking? in Textiles in Northern Archaeology (NESAT Symposium 3) ed. Penelope 
Walton and John-Peter Wild.  London.)  and the early 11th c. full-length silk 
hose associated with the Holy Roman Emperor Henry III (Schramm, Percy Ernst  
Florentine Mutherich.  1962.  Denkmale der deutschen Konige und Kaiser.  
Prestel Verlag, München.).

My database indicates that the ca. 7th c. finds at Bernuthsfeld (Germany) 
included a set of leg wraps, but I'd have to look at the original publication 
to see if I meant the sort of unshaped cloth wrapped around a foot inside a 
shoe, serving as a sock or the sort of narrow strip used as a wrapping for the 
lower leg.  I suspect the latter.  The citations is from: Schlabow, Karl.  
1976.  Textilfunde der Eisenzeit in Norddeutschland.  Karl Wachholtz Verlag, 
Neumünster.

The following publication also includes something I cataloged as leg wraps (I 
can see I need to clarify this in my database coding):  Banck, Johanna.  1998.  
Ein merowingerzeitlicher Baumsarg aus Lauchheim/Ostalbkreis -- Zur Bergung und 
Dokumentation der Textilfunde in Textiles in European Archaeology (NESAT 
Symposium 6) ed. Lise Bender Jørgensen  Christina Rinaldo.  Göteborg.

This list isn't likely to be at all complete, but it's what I currently have 
entered into my surviving garments database.  Which this seems a good 
opportunity to plug:

http://www.heatherrosejones.com/survivinggarments/index.html

Heather Jones
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