Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
The whip would be the driver, or, in other words, the person whipping the horse, or handling the whip. Simple transfer of tool name to occupation. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the

Re: [h-cost] Dyed cloth from the Iron Age

2012-06-29 Thread Joan Jurancich
At 09:12 PM 6/26/2012, you wrote: This from a bog body: http://sciencenordic.com/dyed-clothes-came-fashion-early-iron-age What I find most striking is the twilled plaid. I did a double take because I thought for sure that nobody could be wearing *houndstooth* plaid so early. The rest of the

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Data-Samtak Susan
Whip means the Driver of the cart or carriage. The Driver carries a whip to communicate with the carriage horse (NOT to beat it) because when driving you do not have legs to guide the horse. Used correctly, the whip is used to reach the horse's side and touch him with the whip, instead of a

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Beteena Paradise
As support to my statement that the whip is the driver of the coach. Here is a website about an event in Newport which sounds lovely: http://www.newportmansions.org/events/a-weekend-of-coaching   A quote from the text on that website: All seating is outside, with the driver, known as a whip,

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Beteena Paradise
The whip is the one driving the coach. The dress only apply if he is the host and not a hired/employed coachman.   Teena From: penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:41 AM

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Emily Gilbert
My guess is that it means the person driving the coach or carriage. A century earlier, during the Regency era, someone who was good at driving a horse or horses was called a notable whip. Emily On 6/27/2012 11:41 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Janet Davis
In a Regency context, a great whip would be a gentleman who excelled at driving horses attached to some kind of carriage. This would not be used for the man who drove coaches for a living but only for someone of means who liked to race and show off his skill. Janet

[h-cost] Dyed Cloth from the Iron Age

2012-06-29 Thread Laura Rubin
(Apologies if you get this twice, the first one didn't appear to go through) This from a bog body: http://sciencenordic.com/dyed-clothes-came-fashion-early-iron-age What I find most striking is the twilled plaid. I did a double take because I thought for sure that nobody could be wearing

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Ginni Morgan
I believe the term whip, as used here, refers to the driver who carries (and uses) an actual whip. A whip carried the whip. Depending on the context of the useage, there may be overtones of skill indicated. A man who was a poor whip wasn't very good at driving his curricle, phaeton, or other

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Cin
Isnt the whip the driver of the coach? The others sound like his friends. What a fun question! --cin On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Patricia Dunham
from context on this page http://vasportsman.com/Coaching_in_Newport.pdf, I believe that in the modern sport of Coaching, whip may refer to the main driver, usually the owner or at least the organizer of a coaching group, the one who weilds the literal whip. Coaching, as is currently quite

[h-cost] OP - Pret-a-Papier, Isabelle de Borchagrave

2012-06-29 Thread Kate Bunting
Emily Gilbert wrote: Those are astonishing! By the way, the fourth photo down is labeled a dress based on a 1730 design, but it looks to me more like a gentleman's banyan over a waistcoat. What do you all think? Indeed it does. Also, can 18th century experts tell me why the saque-back dress

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip? My Take on it..

2012-06-29 Thread Melody Watts
My  take on reading the script mentioned seems like it is refering to an outing perhaps like a caravan to a destination,organised by a Host. That Host would be the Whip, keeping all the guests from getting lost or seperated ,and on the right bus or touring car and any independent cars from

[h-cost] PING PLEASE?

2012-06-29 Thread Patricia Dunham
It is now 12.30 am (just after midnight) Friday morning. There has been nothing come in since about 9.30 AM Friday. that's 15+ hours and seems like a long time. I know it's just before SOME 4th-of-July-long-weekend events, but it seems early for EVERYbody to have disappeared? see you soon,

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Data-Samtak Susan
A correction to the the East Coast upper crust here in the US.: Many horse owners ride and drive their horses in the USA. Some folks drive one pony and others can afford to drive 4 horses pulling a large carriage, as described in the original email. Some folks drive just for fun and other