"Breeches" is an English term. Like "culotte" is the French term ("sans
culottes" were French revolutionaries who wore "pantalon"). And even "Jodhpurs"
were those riding pants with wide hips (now, just riding pants) worn
traditionally in duh Jodhpur, India. for riding. So I'd say when a
And with variations, even the 19th C. Men walking about in shirt sleeves
without at least a vest, "were naked".
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From: "Jill"
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Subject: Re: [h-cost] Meaning of "breeches" in late 16th to mid-17th c.
EnglishBreeches were
In the 21st Century, horseback riding "pants" are still called breeches,
especially the ones that are a few inches shorter and end above the ankle to be
worn inside tall slim boots aka "riding boots".
The longer version that cover the ankle , usually with a cuff, (so not suited
for tucking into
Breeches were and still are outer wear. In Persia the men would
have, as some still do today, wear long robes and any trousers (of
any desciption) worn would not be immediately apparent. Don't take
the description written in 16th and 17th centuries to be valid in
modern language. For ex
I'm trying to determine what the word "breeches" meant - did it mean underpants
only, or did it have other meanings, for example, knee-length or shorter
trousers - from the late 16th through mid-17th centuries.
I ask because visitors to Persia commented that the men wore no breeches and
i'm try
Sometimes there was a bit of boning in the gown, as well.
**
Every upscale gown from the teens I've seen always has a boned under-structure
no matter how draped and flowing the gown is. It usually takes the form of a
muslin or glazed cotton sleeveless bodice that ends at the raised waist t
I've seen folks use long zip ties for light boning! Ends cut off, of
course ;) You can buy heavier-than usual ones at a specialty hardware
store, or perhaps a shipping specialty store (not ups! they're
consumer grade)
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Hi Rachael,
Sometimes there was a bit of boning in the gown, as well. Even with a
corset, the gown could ride up. Generally it was still whalebone,
split into thinner widths.
Plastic featherboning is supposed to mimic actual feather shafts used
for boning. I heard that from a friend but d
Hi,
I haven't been able to keep up with all of this thread, but I just wanted to
make sure you have seen this:
http://www.uibk.ac.at/urgeschichte/projekte_forschung/textilien-lengberg/medieval-lingerie-from-lengberg-castle-east-tyrol.html
which must be more current than the NESAT abstrac
I am making myself a version of a 1909 Directoire dress to go to my
sisters wedding in and the patter calls for the bodice to be boned. I
was going to wear a corset underneath, partly becuase it is so much
easier to stand up for long periods of time, do I still need to bone?
Does anyone know what
I'd like to thank everyone who has sent information and links to images:
they have given me a much better idea of how Nell would have appeared.
And I apologise for taking so long to respond - the power supply plug
on my computer went wrong and had to be replaced. (Grrr!)
Linda Walton, (in Hig
http://www.uibk.ac.at/urgeschichte/projekte_forschung/textilien-lengberg/index.html.en
Fran
Lavolta Press
Books on historic sewing and needlework
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Agreed that it is more interesting than the Daily Mail story, but unfortunately
not the one which will stick in the average person's mind. ;-) One of the
places that had gotten the Daily Mail stories linked to that. Medievalists
maybe?
Teena
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