Re: [h-cost] checking on a merchant
I have a couple of styles from Fugawee (Martha and Debbie) and they have all been pretty comfortable. I had a pair of their straight last shoes (Connie) and even though I ordered what I thought would be big enough, I probably should have gone another half size bigger. The other two fit well right out of the box and have held up well. KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Marjorie Wilser the3t...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] checking on a merchant Date: Sun, 3 Feb 2013 08:33:23 -0800 I have shoe fitting issues, and called them before ordering. I described my issues, and they suggested that for me, a half-size up would be the best. I spent about 3 weeks wearing them half-days and then full days before their first event, but they were comfortable right away. The only reason I spent so long getting used to them is that they were colonial, and I usually don't wear heels. So it was more getting my feet used to the concept than breaking in a shoe. They are nice to work with, too. == Marjorie Wilser =:=:=:Three Toad Press:=:=:= http://3toad.blogspot.com/ Learn to laugh at yourself and you will never lack for amusement. --MW On Feb 2, 2013, at 2:44 PM, llwa...@juno.com wrote: I'm getting ready for the Costume Con historical masquerade, and it looks like a shoe style from Fugawee (http://www.fugawee.com/ index.htm) will be very close to what I need. However, I don't know anyone locally who's dealt with them. What are their shoes like? Do sizes run small/large, or pretty close to standard commercial sizes? (The shoes I'm looking at are straight-last, if it matters.) Any problems with orders? Leah ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume NetZero now offers 4G mobile broadband. Sign up now. http://www.netzero.net/?refcd=NZINTISP0512T4GOUT1 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths
I use a couple of tablespoons of whole cloves in those little drawstring organza wedding favor bags in all my boxes of wool/feathers. It seems to work pretty well. There's no staining from the cloves and my clothing has a warm spicey aroma. I'm sure they would work as well for cedar and lavender. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Lynn Downward lynndownw...@gmail.com To: gbacgcostum...@yahoogroups.com, Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Cedar chips/moths Date: Fri, 24 Feb 2012 12:27:40 -0800 Hi all, We've had an infestation of moths in the house, mostly in my feather collection. I had them all in a (not airtight) plastic container. Thinking that they needed some air, I kept all the vintage feathers carefully wrapped up in tissue. Those feather I didn't care much about were in zip-lock bags and had no moths in them at all. Of course the damage was to the vintage feathers. When I bring feathers home, I always put them in a zip bag and leave them in the freezer for a couple of weeks to kill off any bugs that may already be in them before I add them to my collection. Unfortunately, something went wrong with my plans. After tossing about a third of my collection, I've cleaned the rest and put them back into the freezer. I'll be ready to take them out this weekend. Before I do I want to purchase some cedar chips or a bit of cedar and put them in with the feathers and in my wool boxes (the smell of moth balls makes me nauseous so I'm not going there). SO my question: I understand the oils in the cedar (or lavendar if I decide to use that instead) can stain and I wondered how you have avoided this. Would putting the cedar or lavendar into one layer of muslin keep my fabrics/feathers from being stained and still keep the moths out? Two layers? Thanks for any information you might have, Lynn ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f48011d267aa1a6a333st05duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
Personally, I swear by Truly Victorian Patterns. I have made a number of them and they have always gone together easily and fit beautifully. They aren't as cheap as the Big Ones, but they are worth every penny (and they aren't that expensive either). http://www.trulyvictorian.com/ Just a satisfied customer! Karen -- Original Message -- From: annbw...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:00:03 -0500 (EST) Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up the road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems like a good opportunity. My question is, what pattern(s) do you all recommend for an 1870s era bustle day outfit? I'm thinking bodice with high neck and 3/4 sleeves and underskirt with draped overskirt. I do have the skill to make some minor changes to a pattern-could certainly modify the sleeve, for instance--but want something that I wouldn't need to do a lot to, as time is of the essence. Also not stuck on 100% authentic to the period--that is one of the appeals of Steampunk! I was hoping the Big Two had something that I could just pick up at the fabric store and run with, but I didn't see anything suitable there. Ann Wass ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 60-Year-Old Mom Looks 27 Mom Reveals Free Wrinkle Trick That Has Angered Doctors! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f33ef96965e6109b88fst01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions
I have made the basic 1870's underskirt several times and it is quick and simple to make. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=81cat=2page=1 I have also made the 1871 Day Bodice several times and really like the result. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=32cat=2page=1 I have made several of the overskirts but in terms of bang for buck (and effort), the Bustle Apron Overskirt is probably the best option. http://www.trulyvictorian.net/tvxcart/product.php?productid=40cat=2page=1 Have fun! Karen -- Original Message -- From: annbw...@aol.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2012 11:23:54 -0500 (EST) Truly Victorian has some nice patterns for the bustle era: http://www.trulyvictorian.com/ Several of you recommended Truly Victorian, and I had already seen them on the Great Pattern Review website. Any particular style or styles you found preferable? Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Catherine Olanich Raymond ca...@thyrsus.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Feb 9, 2012 11:08 am Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pattern Suggestions On 02/09/2012 11:00 AM, annbw...@aol.com wrote: Okay, folks, I may be getting a Steampunk urge, since a big event is right up he road in May. I long ago wanted to do an 1870s bustle style and this seems ike a good opportunity. My question is, what pattern(s) do you all recommend or an 1870s era bustle day outfit? I'm thinking bodice with high neck and 3/4 leeves and underskirt with draped overskirt. I do have the skill to make some inor changes to a pattern-could certainly modify the sleeve, for instance--but ant something that I wouldn't need to do a lot to, as time is of the essence. lso not stuck on 100% authentic to the period--that is one of the appeals of teampunk! I was hoping the Big Two had something that I could just pick up at the fabric tore and run with, but I didn't see anything suitable there. ruly Victorian has some nice patterns for the bustle era: http://www.trulyvictorian.com/ -- athy Raymond a...@thyrsus.com Even imperfection itself may have its ideal or perfect state. -Thomas de Quincey __ -costume mailing list -cost...@mail.indra.com ttp://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 53 Year Old Mom Looks 33 The Stunning Results of Her Wrinkle Trick Has Botox Doctors Worried http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f33f512c6d82109fc8cst01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] nankeen substitute
As I understand it, nankeen was a pale yellow/pale brownish cotton which was originally from naturally colored cotton and then became a term for a sturdy cotton dyed a buff yellow in imitation of the Chinese original (nankeen=nanking). I have never heard it refered to as being a special weave (like twill) so I have assumed that it is just a sturdy plain weave cotton in a pale yellow. I'd love to know if anyone else has more specific information. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Emily Gilbert emchantm...@gmail.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] nankeen substitute Date: Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:37:47 -0600 Hello all, I'm planning to make the Past Patterns 1793-1820 Transition Stay. It says that the stay the pattern was taken from was made in nankeen, and that nankeen is unlike any fabric available in today's market, but doesn't offer any suggestions as to what to use instead. Does anyone know what kind of fabric would give me the closest approximation? Thanks! Emily ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Get Free Email with Video Mail Video Chat! http://www.juno.com/freeemail?refcd=JUTAGOUT1FREM0210 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] marking tools
I use a square of tailor's chalk for most of my marking needs. I have also heard of using a piece of old fashion soap (like Ivory) for marking fabric. Karen -- Original Message -- From: Nordtorp-Madson, Michelle A. manordto...@stthomas.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] marking tools Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2012 14:15:00 + I still use the tried and true (and, yes, somewhat time-consuming) method of basting through the pattern, leaving loops, and then cutting the treads so you get bits on both pieces of cloth. It is kind of the ultimate in control for me. I also use the square of chalk, since you can use a sharp knife to make a really narrow edge on them, although they need to be sharpened frequently. They are great along a straight edge. On 1/12/12 8:07 AM, Land of Oz lando...@netins.net wrote: I've just about had it with the standard pencil type marking instruments at JoAnn's. If you try to sharpen them enough to make a detailed line, the chalk breaks off. If you try to leave the end wide and blunt, you can't make anything but the most basic dots. What do you pros out there use? I have a wheel and marking paper, but that's really hard on the pattern tissues and I like to re-use them if possible. What's your favorite and where do you get it? thanks Denise Iowa ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Groupon#8482 Official Site 1 ridiculously huge coupon a day. Get 50-90% off your city#39;s best! http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4f0eeca2be0d38e4dast04duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Converting a Sack Style Men's Dress Coat to a Frock Style Men's Dress Coat
I am assuming that you mean a Victorian Frock coat (as opposed to an 18th century American hunting frock). I would think that it would be very difficult to do such a conversion due to the significant differences in basic pattern between the two. For one, a sack suit generally isn't as long in the 'skirts' as a frock coat so I don't know where the extra fabric would come from. Also, there are pleats (small but definitely there) which fall from the waist of the frock which have no counter part in a sack suit. Honestly, I'd just shop around for a good sale on wool (try Denver Fabrics or Fabric.com on line) and make him one from scratch. Of course there might be someone else with a better understanding of this sort of thing who could give you better advice so this could be a learning experience for both of us! KarenSeamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Angelique Carlson subversivey...@me.com To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Converting a Sack Style Men's Dress Coat to a Frock Style Men's Dress Coat Date: Fri, 04 Nov 2011 07:35:35 -0500 My son loves frock style coats and I'd love to make him one for Winter. Wool coating is fairly expensive, and I am hoping that it would be possible to alter a sack style coat from a nearby thrift store. Do you think it's possible? Thanks in advance, Angelique ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume 57 Year Old Mom Looks 28 Mom Reveals $4 Wrinkle Therapy Angering Doctors! We reveal how.. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4eb3e5cc79b35c4243st01duc ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Working class pattern
I don't think it's necessarily a painting of a real woman. I think it's a painting for an aristocratic audience who likes to think of the peasantry as happy and prosperous so it's an idealized image that may have never actually existed. I believe that the general style is quite accurate but the richness of the fabrics and trim may be a nod to the audiences expectations. Karen Seamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Sharon Collier sha...@collierfam.com To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Working class pattern Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 21:33:30 -0700 Might this be a painting of a wealthy woman playing at being a peasant? I ask because of the fancy trim at top of green apron/skirt and because her hair seems to be quite fancy, puffed and with ringlets, more like the ladies coiffures in Moda a Firenze, than a peasant (who would rightly have her hair in a coif or otherwise covered. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Becky Rautine Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 5:52 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Working class pattern New image: http://www.marquise.de/en/1500/pics/1580_2.shtml New situation: I'm hoping to be a aprticipant next year at a Ren Faire (hopefully Scarsborough) as a weaver. I want to have a shoppe to sell weavings of shawls, mats, handkerchiefs, etc. I have a floor loom and am wanting to make a smaller one for the shoppe. Trilooms and small looms to show kids how to weave. I'd need a persona for working class, maybe Italian like the image. New question: In this image, is this the working pattern? Is the a front part of the skirt or an apron. Is she sitting on a gold cloth and the green is her skirt. I see decoration of the front so it must not be an apron. I really like this portrait. I love the gold and green combo. And the ribbons at the shoulder. Creative overload!!! Becky Rautine _ Microsoft brings you a new way to search the web. Try BingT now http://www.bing.com?form=MFEHPGpubl=WLHMTAGcrea=TEXT_MFEHPG_Core_tagline_t ry bing_1x1 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Get your dream car or truck. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTLa8tU2xK2aZAS8rPuNCTqAO35NdoirkuPdBwjcP4P75wNKn4hnws/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Black beads Princess Elizabeth image
I was able to see several period pieces of jewelry at the VA in London and I was interested to note that the diamonds in the pieces really do look black. It's not just an artist's convention. I would probably describe it as a 'smoke' sort of black, not a solid black but it was a far cry from the sparking white diamonds used in modern jewelry. Karen Seamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Black beads Princess Elizabeth image Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 08:43:28 -0500 During this period it was common for the diamonds to have a foil backing, so they could and do typically look black in paintings. alex On Mon, Jun 15, 2009 at 11:28 PM, Becky Rautine zearti...@hotmail.comwrote: After all the discussion about the black beads in other portraits, I see the black squares in the Princess ELizabeth portrait as the black with a white spot like someone said. Could these be diamonds instead of onyx or some other black stones?The pearls are black here, but maybe the others are. One site that reproduces Renaissance jewelry has this as a white diamond instead of the black square on the necklace part. I'm making this complete outfit for my daughter. Are these suppose to be white diamonds instead of the black squares? I never thought about it until the recent eye-opening research on black pearls in paintings. Sincerely, Rebecca Rautine _ Insert movie times and more without leaving Hotmail®. http://windowslive.com/Tutorial/Hotmail/QuickAdd?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_Tutorial_QuickAdd_062009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume -- So much to do and so little attention span to get it done with… ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Save hundreds on an Unsecured Loan - Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIqYxK5Onn7Q3JA1GV4MEHRxIR7egiMq6wFVSC3JCdBk8pFPXvXsk/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] London's Hidden Gems
I always recommend Sir John Soane's Museum and The Wallace Collection. Karen Seamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Kate Bunting k.m.bunt...@derby.ac.uk To: h-cost...@indra.com h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] London's Hidden Gems Date: Mon, 8 Jun 2009 09:15:12 +0100 Not a London expert, but I do know that it's actually Bethnal Green. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor From: Alexandria Doyle garbaho...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] London's Hidden Gems To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: 870801590906060945p50638188o76f87ddc3087b...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 May I suggest the museum of Children in Bethel Green? I went there to see the dolls but they do have a bit of collection of children's clothing. I went several years ago, but the curator in charge of the dolls had some wonderful stories about the clothing as well, since they can document exactly what children wore these clothing (mostly Victorian era) and a bot about their life. Of course, they have some wonderful dolls, doll houses and other toys, too alex The University of Derby has a published policy regarding email and reserves the right to monitor email traffic. If you believe this email was sent to you in error, please notify the sender and delete this email. Please direct any concerns to info...@derby.ac.uk The policy is available here: http://www.derby.ac.uk/LIS/Email-Policy ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Learning Centers - Click Here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTKNdOMyONmaA695h3kuPPaOLfLfJ5WScfN52Z35PLgayJxRx7WEBS/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship andhistoric al interpretation
And this is a perfect example of how documentation can make or break a costume in judging. If you have this in your docs, then the judges know that you are deliberately doing this as a period practice and not as lazy/sloppy construction. I have judged a number of competitions ( including workmanship at World Con and Historic at CostumeCon) and one example of the need for documenation stands out in my mind. I was judging a fairly informal competition at an SF con when this guy showed up for judging wrapped in what was clearly a sheet off a hotel bed, looking kinda scruffy and, and not doing much. Two of the judges were like 'Um, yeah- whatever' and had pretty much dismissed the guy completely. He had no documentation of any kind. The thrid judge was a comic book geek and went nuts over how great the costume was. It turns out that this costume was a darn near perfect reproduction of a character in an obscure graphic novel who believed he was Jesus. The third judge managed to convince the rest of us that it was a great costume and later showed me the graphic novel and he was right, the costume was spot on. They guy got an award (novice level, if I remember correctly) but he almost got no recognition at all beca! use most of the judges weren't comic book geeks and had NO CLUE what he was trying to do. All he would have had to do was show us one of the graphic novels or even just a xeroxed copy and we would have gotten it. Much as it pains me to admit, even the most knowledgeable judge doesn't know everything. If you want us to know something, you have to tell us Telling us is called 'Documentation'. Karen Seamstrix -- Original Message -- From: Glenda Robinson glendasli...@exemail.com.au To: 'Historical Costume' h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] CC27 historical judge talks about workmanship andhistorical interpretation Date: Fri, 8 May 2009 19:09:54 +1000 You wrote: --The worst thing we judges saw, in Workmanship, was unfinished raw edges with loose threads fraying out of them. I think about half of what we saw had this problem, and it didn't gain anybody points. (That said, my own seam finish isn't always that great unless I think a workmanship judge, or one of my students, will ever see it.) Of course, there are periods where a raw edge is more authentic than finished edges. My 7th century Anglo-Saxon outfit is made that way deliberately. The cloth is a really hardy diamond twill, the seams are just laid over each other and stitched with the fabric's wool (which would have been left over from the fabrication), both inside and outside. A lot of 12-13th century garments were made without finished edges too. Glenda. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Start Email Marketing - fast, affordable, and measurable. Click here. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTEFePp7F6gYoCzD6iI9bvSqD3q34604CJ1XPYGzwxmhQIgAdS97e4/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic?
That wouldnt be a 'kick pleat'. The tunic probably has a gore(s) set into the side seam. When it's hanging down, it can give the appearanced of a pleat. Karen Seamstrix -- Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: Ah ha! That was what I thought - thank you. One of the details I am interested in is the side kick pleat The baggy trousers and boots might imply the wearer is aiming for Russ Viking, but a Russ tunic would have wide skirts rather than a split. http://tinyurl.com/cjb8dt Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:33:15 + From: anne.montgome...@googlemail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIzQaa3eDfz0DZR7g3rroygQeciFEEjpy6u49XElEmyuWNwp6GTcc/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Gore training: was: What period/country etc is this tunic ?
I find that putting simple gores in the sides of tunics tends to create the look without any effort on my part. The type of fabrics used in this style tends to have alot of body and the front and back pieces maintain their shape (relativley speaking) whihc forces the gores to sort of fold up and look 'pleaty'. Am I getting too technical? :) Karen Seamstrix -- Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: Hmm, I can see what you are saying. You'd have to train the gore to lie like that right? I mean when I put a gore in it usually doesn't fold up on itself like that. This looks like it comes to a point on the outside and the underlying fabric is tucked back underneath it like a pleat almost creating a facing for the slit/point. Now, on the other hand, I recently draped some wool where it did just this. The only reason I am pushing the point, is I like the look but am suspicious of the authenticity of the way it is made/looks. Sg From: seamst...@juno.com Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 20:07:21 + To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic? That wouldnt be a 'kick pleat'. The tunic probably has a gore(s) set into the side seam. When it's hanging down, it can give the appearanced of a pleat. Karen Seamstrix -- Saragrace Knauf wickedf...@msn.com wrote: Ah ha! That was what I thought - thank you. One of the details I am interested in is the side kick pleat The baggy trousers and boots might imply the wearer is aiming for Russ Viking, but a Russ tunic would have wide skirts rather than a split. http://tinyurl.com/cjb8dt Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 16:33:15 + From: anne.montgome...@googlemail.com To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] What period/country etc is this tunic? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume Click to learn about options trading and get the latest information. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL2141/fc/BLSrjpTIzQaa3eDfz0DZR7g3rroygQeciFEEjpy6u49XElEmyuWNwp6GTcc/ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume