Re: [h-cost] Regency Low stomacher--long

2009-07-31 Thread annbwass
This isn't easy to describe without pictures--I hope you can understand it.

I know of two extant examples, but both are cotton.? For wool, a back closing 
would probably work better--I just saw an extant example of a lovely plain wool 
gown that opens in back, which answered my question of how I'm going to make up 
the wool I bought to go with a shawl my husband gave me two years ago.

But, about the low stomacher, or apron front, construction.? One of the gowns 
has a surplice bodice--that is, the fronts cross over and form a V neckline--I 
don't remember if the original was then pinned or tied closed, but I made mine 
with ribbon ties that meet and tie in the back.? On the other, the bodice meets 
edge to edge and ties shut.? The front skirt panel is contructed like that for 
a bib front gown, with slits on either side.? The panel has a drawstring 
through it, and one places it over the bodice and ties it in place.? Two things 
I've found in constructing such gowns--first, people during the period didn't 
seem to care so much about what I call gaposis, so the bodice may end just at 
the waist--I like to extend it a little more to give adequate tuck-in below the 
skirt panel.? Second--one of the extant dresses was made so that the skirt 
drawstring ran inside the bodice and tied invisibly somehow--this drove me 
crazy trying to put it on and adjust everything insid!
 e, so I changed mine to an outer fabric tie as I've made my bibfront dresses.? 
The tie runs through a casing in the top of the skirt, the ends cross and go 
around the back, where I place fabric carriers on the side back seams at the 
waist, then I bring the ends back around to the front to tie.? Having them tie 
in the front seems to give more security to keep the skirt in position at the 
raised waistline.? In keeping with the line of the early 19th century, your 
front panel should lie flat, not gather up.? It helps to cut that front panel 
to accommodate the tummy--I actually curve those side front edges slightly, 
taking an inch off at the waist and tapering to nothing at the end of the 
slit.? The slits can be finished with a narrow hem or a placket facing.

Ann Wass


-Original Message-
From: Melanie Wilson melaniewil...@dragonflight.co.uk
To: h-costume@mail.indra.com
Sent: Fri, Jul 31, 2009 7:00 am
Subject: [h-cost] Regency Low stomacher



Does anyone have any pictures or knowledge of  the costruction of a low 
stomacher on a regency gown please, I'm particularly looking for anything of a 
heavier/winter weight type fabric ?

Mel
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Re: [h-cost] Regency Low stomacher--long

2009-07-31 Thread Melanie Wilson

 I know of two extant examples, but both are cotton.?

I'm actually using  cotton but far heavier than I've used before, it does 
not gather well and I'm not totally happy with the look at the moment


 But, about the low stomacher, or apron front, construction.?

Low stomacher, ie without the bib front, I'm looking a the waistcoat bosom 
type. Yup slits on side so the front drops down in a similar way to drop 
fall trousers


The panel has a drawstring through it, and one places it over the bodice 
and ties it in place.?


Yes, but this fabric is a bit too heavy for a drawstring. Really I'm looking 
for examples with a heavier fabric it seems logical to use buttons or a 
supporting band, there seems to be some hint of these in contampory 
pictures, but as they are worn, it isn't clear if the construction is the 
low stomacher


Second--one of the extant dresses was made so that the skirt drawstring ran 
inside the bodice and tied invisibly somehow--this drove me crazy trying to 
put it on and adjust everything insid!


I like that construction, I use some inside tapes.

Thanks

Mel

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