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Subject: [h-cost] Authenticity - Where do we draw the line between what is
acceptable as
historically accurate vs historically authentic?
- With modern sewing skills and fads (such as zippers), where do we
Carol,
We dont discuss the Great Authenticity Issue on this list anymore.
All the nasty arguments bitter recriminations have been made. Find
the old fights in the archives. Discuss it you'll see a wave of
unsubscribes.
--cin
Cynthia Barnes
cinbar...@gmail.com
On Sat, Mar 12, 2011 at 2:08
Why must they be nasty arguements? While it's unfortunate some people react
that way, if there are valid arguements to be made which can be supported
through either research or even experience, and we can remain civil - isn't
that what constitutes a good discussion?
Perhaps, if that topic is
Delurking here:
My take on this, from the point of view of someone who began in
historical re-creating costumes by trying to accurate re-create my
great-grandmother's marriage photo from c. 1895:
It is exciting to learn about each period, and what was normal and
average for them, by actually
On 3/14/2011 11:58 AM, Michael Deibert wrote:
Why must they be nasty arguements? While it's unfortunate some people react
that way, if there are valid arguements to be made which can be supported
through either research or even experience, and we can remain civil - isn't
that what constitutes
I agree. That level of maturity is what needs to be kept. It's all about
meta-cognition. You have to always consider where someone is coming from -
and usually it's not the same. Also, if we had no variety... things would
get rather boring and we'd stop sharing information because there'd be
I never tried to start another flame war or tried dictating what it should
be. I stated that I was going off-topic from the start.
Nor was I on this list during those flame wars - so was unaware that those
questions would start a huge fight instead of an educational discussion and
debate.
M
Cin, I remember, I've been on the list since the 90s. I think it is
possible to discuss authenticity issues without arguments. It does
not have to go in that direction.
So far everyone seems to be in agreement that it will vary. I enjoy
stories like Lisa's about her great grandmother's
One experience of mine that might be closer to Michael's intended
discussion: I was learning about mid-18thC French women's clothing,
particularly the corset which is more like English jumps: a shaping
upper-body garment not as firm as stays. The information was that
paper was used as an
YES!!! Sometimes experiments are necessary to understand the
process--this kind of sums it up for me--I am all about the process.
The fact that I compete my costumes at SF cons and my county fair and
Costume Con--those are secondary to the actual PROCESS.
Yours i n costumign,Lisa A
One
On 03/14/2011 02:58 PM, Lisa A Ashton wrote:
Delurking here:
[snip]
So for me, now learning about the Civil War era, to
recreate an actual person known to have lived (their clothing--I am NOT a
re-enactor), the more I learn about the sewingmachines of hte time, what
might have been done
- Where do we draw the line between what is acceptable as
historically accurate vs historically authentic?
- With modern sewing skills and fads (such as zippers), where do we
encorporate those skills to aid in construction of period garments,
or do we insist on using the period methods?
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