Re: [h-cost] Lobster back

2009-02-13 Thread Kate Bunting
I've learned something new from this thread; I didn't know that lobster back was an American term for British soldiers in the 18th century. In my century the idea of lobsters in a military context was associated with the hardness and segmented form of their shells, not their colour. Kate

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back

2009-02-13 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
Evidently they at least knew of it. The original post's phrase is bonnets des soldats anglais surnommés 'lobster back;'-- or, hats of the English soldiers [who are] nicknamed lobster back. I believe the discussion has come full circle! --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-12 Thread Penny Ladnier
I will scan the image of the hat later tonight and post it so you can see. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 11 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread Kate Bunting
Feb 2009 08:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: ruthan...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Lobster Back??? To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: 21945386.1234272680486.javamail.r...@elwamui-polski.atl.sa.earthlink.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 What is being

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
cap from the late 19th century. Kate Bunting Librarian 17th century reenactor -- Message: 5 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:31:19 -0500 (EST) From: ruthan...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Lobster Back??? To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread Penny Ladnier
Can you show me an image of the Cornwallis' hat that you are mentioning. There are hat images in the magazine and I want to see if one will match. In the magazine there is one hat image with the following description: Tricorne de velours noir avec paradis partant de derriere. Penny Ladnier

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread otsisto
not original poster but will these pics. help? http://tinyurl.com/alvtj6 (ebay,penny) http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/revolutionary-war-overview.ht m http://www.exonumia.com/sale11/pic/9960A.JPG (coin) http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/tricorne.htm -Original Message-

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread Ruth Anne Baumgartner
I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw was in a book a long time ago Anyway, here's Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne in just the type of hat. Note the feather cockade (continues outside the picture). The lady's hat was a miniature version and rode in her

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread Sharon Collier
To: Historical Costume Subject: Re: [h-cost] Lobster back??? I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw was in a book a long time ago Anyway, here's Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne in just the type of hat. Note the feather cockade (continues outside the picture). The lady's hat

Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???

2009-02-11 Thread otsisto
So you are looking for a french tricorn like the one at the bottom ot this site? http://www.clearwaterhats.com/revwarcatalog.htm but for a woman? -Original Message- I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw was in a book a long time ago Anyway, here's

[h-cost] Lobster Back???

2009-02-10 Thread Penny Ladnier
I was looking through an August 1913 issue of a French high-fashion magazine. In the text was a description of a fashion having a lobster back. I do not read French very well. Can someone please read the following paragraph and let me know what is being referred to as having a lobster back.

Re: [h-cost] Lobster Back???

2009-02-10 Thread ruthanneb
and amateur costumer -Original Message- From: Penny Ladnier pe...@costumegallery.com Sent: Feb 10, 2009 4:18 AM To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Lobster Back??? I was looking through an August 1913 issue of a French high-fashion magazine. In the text was a description