I've learned something new from this thread; I didn't know that lobster back
was an American term for British soldiers in the 18th century. In my century
the idea of lobsters in a military context was associated with the hardness and
segmented form of their shells, not their colour.
Kate
Evidently they at least knew of it. The original post's phrase is
bonnets des soldats anglais surnommés 'lobster back;'-- or,
hats of the English soldiers [who are] nicknamed lobster back.
I believe the discussion has come full circle!
--Ruth Anne Baumgartner
scholar gypsy and amateur costumer
I will scan the image of the hat later tonight and post it so you can see.
Penny Ladnier
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Feb 2009 08:31:19 -0500 (EST)
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What is being
cap from the late 19th century.
Kate Bunting
Librarian 17th century reenactor
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Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 08:31:19 -0500 (EST)
From: ruthan...@mindspring.com
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Lobster Back???
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Can you show me an image of the Cornwallis' hat that you are mentioning.
There are hat images in the magazine and I want to see if one will match.
In the magazine there is one hat image with the following description:
Tricorne de velours noir avec paradis partant de derriere.
Penny Ladnier
not original poster but will these pics. help?
http://tinyurl.com/alvtj6 (ebay,penny)
http://www.sonofthesouth.net/revolutionary-war/revolutionary-war-overview.ht
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http://www.exonumia.com/sale11/pic/9960A.JPG (coin)
http://www.gentlemenoffortune.com/tricorne.htm
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I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw
was in a book a long time ago
Anyway, here's Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne in just the type of hat.
Note the feather cockade (continues outside the picture). The lady's
hat was a miniature version and rode in her
To: Historical Costume
Subject: Re: [h-cost] Lobster back???
I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw was in
a book a long time ago
Anyway, here's Gentleman Johnny Burgoyne in just the type of hat.
Note the feather cockade (continues outside the picture). The lady's hat
So you are looking for a french tricorn like the one at the bottom ot this
site?
http://www.clearwaterhats.com/revwarcatalog.htm
but for a woman?
-Original Message-
I wish I could find the little fashionable hat, but the drawing I saw
was in a book a long time ago
Anyway, here's
I was looking through an August 1913 issue of a French high-fashion magazine.
In the text was a description of a fashion having a lobster back. I do not
read French very well. Can someone please read the following paragraph and let
me know what is being referred to as having a lobster back.
and amateur costumer
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Subject: [h-cost] Lobster Back???
I was looking through an August 1913 issue of a French high-fashion magazine.
In the text was a description
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