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Hi Carol, Thank you! I have chatting back and forth with the photo historian about the hand-tinting. Both were developed around the same time. I purchased the three 1850s stereoviews that I mentioned...not knowing what a treasure they were until I had the historian look them over. This is what he said: It's funny that the tinted stereoviews you just purchased happen to be 1850s from the United Kingdom. Well, you have the earliest examples of stereoviews, really. One of the stereoviews is by J. Elliott and another by a London studio with two brides in the photo. The third photo is very similar to the style of the Elliott one. The early British stereoviews are considered the most treasured in the industry. Here is an article about the hand-tinting process. It also mentions J. Elliott. I hope to bring these with me to Costume-Con for people to see. Once I complete my 1920s wedding photo area online, I will be putting the 1850s-1860s wedding photos online. I have another large group wedding photo to go in this area from the late 1850s-early 1860s. It is from England and was taken outside. All the ladies are in their bonnets. I can't wait to enlarge the photo for a closer look. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I am sorry, I forgot to add the link for the article about stereoview tinting: http://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/early-french-tissue-stereoview-of-restaurant Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Whoo hoo - what fun! -Original Message- the historian look them over. This is what he said: It's funny that the tinted stereoviews you just purchased happen to be 1850s from the United Kingdom. Well, you have the earliest examples of stereoviews, really. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history Please note that Mount Union's campus e-mail addresses have changed from usern...@muc.edu to usern...@mountunion.edu. The username has not changed - only the domain. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I am now the VERY proud owner of the photo. I finally decided to buy it today. This is my first photo like this. The dealer and I have been chatting back and forth. He is very knowledgeable about photography history. Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Congratulations! Were you able to find out about hand-tinting of stereoviews? Would it have developed at a different time than hand- tinting single photos? -Carol On Apr 6, 2010, at 3:35 AM, Penny Ladnier wrote: I am now the VERY proud owner of the photo. I finally decided to buy it today. This is my first photo like this. The dealer and I have been chatting back and forth. He is very knowledgeable about photography history. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Gold leaf is a lot thicker than 2 molecules. I meant atoms, because it's an element. But, looking it up just now, the stuff's really thin, like no more than a few atoms thick. I read once that the minimum was two, and that the ancient Romans could get down to four. Back then it was made by hammering gold between sheets of leather many times. The rest of what you said agrees with what I'd heard. Not sure what you mean by plating...in my experience making jewelry that's a chemical process that requires an existing metal substrate to receive the plating AND submersion in a chemical bath that contains the gold. Electro-plating, just like you say here. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I think the unit of measure you are after is microns... 2010/4/6 Käthe Barrows kay...@gmail.com Gold leaf is a lot thicker than 2 molecules. I meant atoms, because it's an element. But, looking it up just now, the stuff's really thin, like no more than a few atoms thick. I read once that the minimum was two, and that the ancient Romans could get down to four. Back then it was made by hammering gold between sheets of leather many times. The rest of what you said agrees with what I'd heard. Not sure what you mean by plating...in my experience making jewelry that's a chemical process that requires an existing metal substrate to receive the plating AND submersion in a chemical bath that contains the gold. Electro-plating, just like you say here. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Gold leaf is a lot thicker than 2 molecules. Comes in 'booklets' interleaved with parchment paper to keep it from tearing. You apply a piece of an individual sheet over previously applied sizing (a glue that stays tacky after drying). You lay the leaf (or even a scrap, in this case) over the spots that have been sized, burnish firmly with a bone tool and sweep away the excess leaf (to be recycled!). This would be the technique used on the photo being discussed. It was also used on fabrics like REALLY fancy gowns that weren't going to be laundered, as well as some church vestments as well as Manuscripts and important documents like University diplomas. Not sure what you mean by plating...in my experience making jewelry that's a chemical process that requires an existing metal substrate to receive the plating AND submersion in a chemical bath that contains the gold. Donna Hawk Sometimes people put up walls, not to keep others out, but to see who cares enough to break them down. Musings on Life and Art (blog) Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo Käthe Barrows Sat, 03 Apr 2010 16:55:02 -0700 The gold jewelry really pops! Is it gold leaf?I believe that gold leaf is only two molecules thick, so maybe gold plated which, I think, is thicker and, therefore, more durable. And gold leaf has to be applied by hand, with glue, where plating is quicker. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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The gold jewelry really pops! Is it gold leaf? Kate Pinner -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of albert...@aol.com Sent: Friday, April 02, 2010 10:43 PM To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Look at this photo What period/year 1860's??? Definitely. Even though she's appears to be sitting, the waist looks a tad high. This would put it towards the end of the decade ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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The gold jewelry really pops! Is it gold leaf?I believe that gold leaf is only two molecules thick, so maybe gold plated which, I think, is thicker and, therefore, more durable. And gold leaf has to be applied by hand, with glue, where plating is quicker. -- Carolyn Kayta Barrows -- “The future is already here, it is just unevenly distributed.” -William Gibson -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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I came across a tinted ambrotype on ebay today, auction #380218819142. She is beautiful! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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She is a beauty!?I love the corsarge detail. kathleen -Original Message- From: Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 4/2/2010 3:19:11 AM To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Look at this photoI came across a tinted ambrotype on ebay today, auction #380218819142. She is beautiful! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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Would love to have seen the full outfit.. just divine. What period/year 1860's??? Sidney On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 12:09 AM, R Lloyd Mitchell rmitch...@staff.washjeff.edu wrote: She is a beauty!?I love the corsarge detail. kathleen -Original Message- From: Penny Ladnier penn...@costumegallery.com Sent 4/2/2010 3:19:11 AM To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Look at this photoI came across a tinted ambrotype on ebay today, auction #380218819142. She is beautiful! Penny Ladnier Owner, The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 14 websites of fashion, textiles, costume history ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
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What period/year 1860's??? Definitely. Even though she's appears to be sitting, the waist looks a tad high. This would put it towards the end of the decade ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
