Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! (Hope Greenberg)
At 02:00 PM 1/19/2015, Hope Greenberg wrote: All agreed that they seemed to fall into 3 categories: emerald (or blue-ish), olive, grassy. The version attached here is not particularly sorted and it has five clips at the top of the second page that actually included the name pomona in their descriptions. Interesting! This is challenging my thoughts of classifying greens. I'll agree with emerald being a blueish green, but usually not quite as blue as a pthalo green, and some of the craft paints I've seen called viridian seem to fall in the same group. I don't usually think of grassy greens as yellowish: those are usually referred to as spring green or pea green, even though the greens I see in spring are not all that yellow. Most olive greens are yellowish towards the brown, and most sage greens a bit light and towards the gray -- but here I'm seeing colors I'd call sage that are more towards the brown, and olives that are not as brown as I usually perceive them. One factor in this is brightness, since I normally think of sage as a somewhat washed-out color, and those brownish greens are more washed-out than I usually think of as olives. Another factor is lighting accommodation: when it looks like the image has color-shifted (either because the scene had been transcribed with color-shifted lighting, or because the image had shifted color over time), my brain will correct colors to what they should have been without the color cast. Sharon Collier notes: ...the elusiveness of keeping that color. This is exactly the problem I have. My sage green sleeves and forepart have faded to a yellow-ish green. Not as nice a color as I originally had. Interesting. I normally wouldn't have considered sage as fading towards the yellow... All sorts of questions are popping up in my head about the types of dyes and/or pigments used in the garment, and the environmental factors that have led to its fading... Brenda F. Bell webwar...@earthlink.net Support me in riding the 2015 Tour de Cure to Stop Diabetes! http://main.diabetes.org/goto/tmana ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
...the elusiveness of keeping that color. This is exactly the problem I have. My sage green sleeves and forepart have faded to a yellow-ish green. Not as nice a color as I originally had. Sharon C. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Hope Greenberg Sent: Sunday, January 18, 2015 5:05 PM To: h-costume@mail.indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! Hello - Thank you all for your contributions to the green fabric vote discussion! I thought it might be fun to approach it from a different angle as well just to see what would come of it. I pulled 30 clips that included greens from some fashion plates, extant garment links, and a few paintings. They are now in a Word doc oraganized as a sort of game. The first page has the collection in chronological order but the second has them slapped on the page as free-floating objects so they can be dragged around. I had a couple people here try moving them around in what seemed like, to them, logical groupings. All agreed that they seemed to fall into 3 categories: emerald (or blue-ish), olive, grassy. The version attached here is not particularly sorted and it has five clips at the top of the second page that actually included the name pomona in their descriptions. If you would like to play the 'game' you can find the doc at: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/regency/greens/greens.docx It is no wonder the search for green is a challenge. I've been reading two fascinating books that have been useful. The first is about the cultural aspects of the color while the second has more technical information. Highly recommended: 1) Pastoureau, Michel. Green: The History of a Color (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2014) - Examining the evolving place of green in art, clothes, literature, religion, science, and everyday life, Michel Pastoreau traces how culture has profoundly changed the perception and meaning of the color over millennia. (He has previously published books on blue and black.) 2) Greene, Susan W. Wearable Prints, 1760-1860: History, Materials and Mechanics (Kent, Ohio: Kent State University Press, 2014) - a fantastic and monumental book on printing and dyeing fabric throughout this time period. 568 pp. and over 1600 color images. (And the section on green is very small and very confusing due to the challenges related to the difficulty in getting, and elusiveness of keeping, that color!) Enjoy! - Hope ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
Hello - Thank you all for your contributions to the green fabric vote discussion! I thought it might be fun to approach it from a different angle as well just to see what would come of it. I pulled 30 clips that included greens from some fashion plates, extant garment links, and a few paintings. They are now in a Word doc oraganized as a sort of game. The first page has the collection in chronological order but the second has them slapped on the page as free-floating objects so they can be dragged around. I had a couple people here try moving them around in what seemed like, to them, logical groupings. All agreed that they seemed to fall into 3 categories: emerald (or blue-ish), olive, grassy. The version attached here is not particularly sorted and it has five clips at the top of the second page that actually included the name pomona in their descriptions. If you would like to play the 'game' you can find the doc at: http://www.uvm.edu/~hag/regency/greens/greens.docx It is no wonder the search for green is a challenge. I've been reading two fascinating books that have been useful. The first is about the cultural aspects of the color while the second has more technical information. Highly recommended: 1) Pastoureau, Michel. Green: The History of a Color (Princeton: Princeton University Press, 2014) - Examining the evolving place of green in art, clothes, literature, religion, science, and everyday life, Michel Pastoreau traces how culture has profoundly changed the perception and meaning of the color over millennia. (He has previously published books on blue and black.) 2) Greene, Susan W. Wearable Prints, 1760-1860: History, Materials and Mechanics (Kent, Ohio: Kent State University Press, 2014) - a fantastic and monumental book on printing and dyeing fabric throughout this time period. 568 pp. and over 1600 color images. (And the section on green is very small and very confusing due to the challenges related to the difficulty in getting, and elusiveness of keeping, that color!) Enjoy! - Hope ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
Greetings, I think I have that fashion plate, or at least others wearing that same colour. It was a popular colour and I love it too. They sure liked green during that time. If you asked me to go by the colour name, I would have said it was the colour of Granny Smith apples. However, I don't think that any of those you provided links for would be right. Did you notice that it is a shot fabric being depicted? I think that you would be better off looking for a shot silk combining colours like the first and second ones. I think that this one is slightly better than the non-shot version: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=2478 However, I think that this might do the trick: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=4642 It has both the yellowish highlights and the blue undertones of the fashion plate. Mind you, this one could work as well: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1617 Surprisingly, if the woman in the photo is wearing the fabric in the photos, it is another possibility. http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1290 Compare them side-by-side with the fashion plate and I think that you will see that they are pretty good matches. Just my opinion, of course, but it appears to me that the colouring of the plate follows the usual stylistic conventions for depicting shot fabrics, that have been used in European art since the 15th century. Cheers Danielle Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:19:22 -0500 From: h...@uvm.edu To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I really like Danielle's fourth recommendation, both as a lovely color and as a good match for the plate, at least as far as my computer's monitor is concerned. Failing that, I'd go for the third. --RA Baumgartner On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: Greetings, I think I have that fashion plate, or at least others wearing that same colour. It was a popular colour and I love it too. They sure liked green during that time. If you asked me to go by the colour name, I would have said it was the colour of Granny Smith apples. However, I don't think that any of those you provided links for would be right. Did you notice that it is a shot fabric being depicted? I think that you would be better off looking for a shot silk combining colours like the first and second ones. I think that this one is slightly better than the non-shot version: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=2478 However, I think that this might do the trick: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=4642 It has both the yellowish highlights and the blue undertones of the fashion plate. Mind you, this one could work as well: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1617 Surprisingly, if the woman in the photo is wearing the fabric in the photos, it is another possibility. http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1290 Compare them side-by-side with the fashion plate and I think that you will see that they are pretty good matches. Just my opinion, of course, but it appears to me that the colouring of the plate follows the usual stylistic conventions for depicting shot fabrics, that have been used in European art since the 15th century. Cheers Danielle Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:19:22 -0500 From: h...@uvm.edu To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I also like Danielle's fourth recommendation - if the fabric in the dress is the same as the yardage shown. If that's too iffy, I'd go with the African Green Shot, or the straight African Green. Glynnis From: ruthan...@mindspring.com Date: Fri, 16 Jan 2015 11:50:02 -0500 To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! I really like Danielle's fourth recommendation, both as a lovely color and as a good match for the plate, at least as far as my computer's monitor is concerned. Failing that, I'd go for the third. --RA Baumgartner On Jan 16, 2015, at 6:05 AM, Danielle Nunn-Weinberg wrote: Greetings, I think I have that fashion plate, or at least others wearing that same colour. It was a popular colour and I love it too. They sure liked green during that time. If you asked me to go by the colour name, I would have said it was the colour of Granny Smith apples. However, I don't think that any of those you provided links for would be right. Did you notice that it is a shot fabric being depicted? I think that you would be better off looking for a shot silk combining colours like the first and second ones. I think that this one is slightly better than the non-shot version: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=2478 However, I think that this might do the trick: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=4642 It has both the yellowish highlights and the blue undertones of the fashion plate. Mind you, this one could work as well: http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1617 Surprisingly, if the woman in the photo is wearing the fabric in the photos, it is another possibility. http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1290 Compare them side-by-side with the fashion plate and I think that you will see that they are pretty good matches. Just my opinion, of course, but it appears to me that the colouring of the plate follows the usual stylistic conventions for depicting shot fabrics, that have been used in European art since the 15th century. Cheers Danielle Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2015 16:19:22 -0500 From: h...@uvm.edu To: h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I also think this is the best match. Surprisingly, if the woman in the photo is wearing the fabric in the photos, it is another possibility. http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productpath=2product_id=1290 Janet ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or anything. :) http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/ Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
My understanding is that it's a yellowish green, making the color in the middle link most accurate. At least on my monitor. Exclusive_silks is the same business as pure_silks on eBay; you might want to look at their listings too. For myself, I don't worry about not being able to find a solid fabric color, since I can always dye white or off-white fabric. See http://www.dharmatrading.com/dyes/dyes-for-dyeing-silk-wool-nylon.html?lnav=dyes.html Fran Lavolta Press Books of historic clothing patterns www.lavoltapress.com On 1/15/2015 1:19 PM, Hope Greenberg wrote: The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
Pomona green continues into the third quarter of the 19th century, as I found in my research of that period. I have no real reason for this opinion, but I always thought of it as more of a yellow-green, like a green apple, so I have to say, none of your swatches. Ann Wass -Original Message- From: Hope Greenberg h...@uvm.edu To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thu, Jan 15, 2015 4:21 pm Subject: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now! The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I'd say of the three, the second is the best, and the most interesting, although none has quite the right undertone. I actually had some synthetic (sorry, a gift!) fabric awhile ago that came REALLY close to your illustration--I used it in combination with a cream-rose-and-green print and a lot of cream lace for a stage costume for She Stoops to Conquer, and it was fabulous. So I sympathize with your quest. --RA Baumgartner On Jan 15, 2015, at 4:19 PM, Hope Greenberg wrote: The color name pomona green appears throughout early 19th century fashion magazines. Fashion plates display women in pomona green gowns, or with pomona green accessories, and descriptions of the color usually refer to leaves or apples. First problem: the images depicted are showing a range of greens (understandable in that they are usually handpainted). Second problem: trying to find a green that matches any of the greens in that range is rather difficult in our current decade of very blue greens or very yellow/olive greens. Even the pantone color chart shows us that this range of greens doesn't seem to be in vogue. So, here's a challenge! Which of the three fabrics linked here would you place in the closest to pomona green category. I know, none of them or you can't tell from an online picture are both logical responses as is just buy some and then decide! But I'm hoping some of you will take a stab at this. And if anyone knows of another site that has the perfect pomona green in a lightweight silk taffeta (especially at these prices) oh my! I would love to know about it. :-) http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=4014 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2741 http://www.puresilks.us/index.php?route=product/productproduct_id=2163 and this is the color I'm most in love with in an illustration: http://www.pinterest.com/pin/194991858836404282/ - Hope P.S. And my apologies for sending a question about greens amidst the discussion about post mortem photographs...(groan: ducking and running). ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
Yeah, I'd vote for this one. It looks the most like the drawing. Terry On 2015-01-15 16:42, Beteena Paradise wrote: I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or anything. :) http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/ [1] Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume [2] Links: -- [1] http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/ [2] http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Pomona green
I think it's difficult to find Pomona green because it probably was a color made with arsenic. I saw a picture of a gown in a museum and it was EXACTLY the shade of green I love! But it was dyed with arsenic. I would have died of arsenic poisoning, I'm sure, as I adore that color. Sharon C. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Pomona Green: vote now!
I like this one the best. Hope, can you get fabric from this source? -Carol On Jan 15, 2015, at 4:42 PM, Beteena Paradise bete...@mostlymedieval.com wrote: I always envisioned Pomona Green to be more like this color. But that is just from my own mind's forming and not really grounded in any kind of fact or anything. :) http://www.bangkokthaisilk.com/lime-green-100-authentic-silk-fabric/ Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
