Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown
HI Isabella, Thanks for these leads. Yes, that is the gown I believe it is based on. I've had people comment on the similarities in the past but had forgotten. I want to make another Bronzino, I love this style. Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:40 AM, . . lizmaek...@hotmail.com wrote: Hi Aylwen, It looks like your gown might be based off some of the Florentine paintings/dresses from the mid 16th c. Here are some examples that include paintings showing a similar type sleeve to the one you have. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Angelo_Bronzino_038.jpg http://www.geocities.com/ailithmac/elenora.jpg Look for Florentine portraits created between 1550-1580 and I think you'll find something to your liking. Check out sites like http://www.wga.hu to help. -Isabella Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:14:42 +1100 From: Aylwen Garden aylwe...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown To: Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: dc9a147d0902090614y3968e3bdhe9ab54118e976...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work from as well. Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown, and what period it might fit into best of all. Pictures of it are at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet. http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg (without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to keep temps down) Portraits that I like include: http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au -- ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume End of h-costume Digest, Vol 8, Issue 49 _ Windows Liveā¢: E-mail. Chat. Share. Get more ways to connect. http://windowslive.com/online/hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_HM_AE_Faster_022009 ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown
Hi De Thanks for those leads. I'm thinking off taking off the tabs at the waist as they were an afterthought as the rest of my dance group wears English elizabethan. Then make a partlet (?) like in the Bronzino paintings. Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:31 AM, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote: first, if you are leaning towards Italian you might want to get on the Italian Ren yahoo groups site. Your outfit is closer in style of the mid 1500s English and French. Perhaps instead of revamping the dress you might want to make another gown. Besides Realm of Venus there are also Festive Attyre, mainly Florentine http://festiveattyre.com/research/index.html but costume wise (clicking on the pictures will get you to dress diaries, usually) http://festiveattyre.com/gallery/index.html Oonagh's http://www.geocities.com/oonaghsown/index2.html The Purple files http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/Kat's_Closet.html De -Original Message- Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work from as well. Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown, and what period it might fit into best of all. Pictures of it are at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet. http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg (without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to keep temps down) Portraits that I like include: http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown
Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work from as well. Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown, and what period it might fit into best of all. Pictures of it are at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet. http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg (without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to keep temps down) Portraits that I like include: http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown
first, if you are leaning towards Italian you might want to get on the Italian Ren yahoo groups site. Your outfit is closer in style of the mid 1500s English and French. Perhaps instead of revamping the dress you might want to make another gown. Besides Realm of Venus there are also Festive Attyre, mainly Florentine http://festiveattyre.com/research/index.html but costume wise (clicking on the pictures will get you to dress diaries, usually) http://festiveattyre.com/gallery/index.html Oonagh's http://www.geocities.com/oonaghsown/index2.html The Purple files http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/Kat's_Closet.html De -Original Message- Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work from as well. Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown, and what period it might fit into best of all. Pictures of it are at http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet. http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg (without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to keep temps down) Portraits that I like include: http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG Bye for now, Aylwen Gardiner-Garden ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume