Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown

2009-02-10 Thread Aylwen Garden
HI Isabella,
Thanks for these leads. Yes, that is the gown I believe it is based
on. I've had people comment on the similarities in the past but had
forgotten. I want to make another Bronzino, I love this style.
Bye for now,

Aylwen Gardiner-Garden

Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books
1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au




On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 7:40 AM, . . lizmaek...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Aylwen,

 It looks like your gown might be based off some of the Florentine 
 paintings/dresses from the mid 16th c.  Here are some examples that include 
 paintings showing a similar type sleeve to the one you have.

 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Angelo_Bronzino_038.jpg
 http://www.geocities.com/ailithmac/elenora.jpg


 Look for Florentine portraits created between 1550-1580 and I think you'll 
 find something to your liking.  Check out sites like http://www.wga.hu to 
 help.

 -Isabella
  Message: 4 Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2009 01:14:42 +1100 From: Aylwen Garden 
  aylwe...@gmail.com Subject: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown To: 
  Historical Costume h-cost...@indra.com Message-ID: 
  dc9a147d0902090614y3968e3bdhe9ab54118e976...@mail.gmail.com 
  Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1  Some years ago I copied a 
  renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has been added to over the 
  years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to any certain period. I 
  would like to sort it out, and probably move more to Italian with a sheer 
  partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work from as well. Can 
  anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown, 
  and what period it might fit into best of all. Pictures of it are at 
  http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg I do not like to wear 
  a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton chemise with full sleeves 
  to wear underneath. I have not seen my style of sleeve in any Italian 
  portraits yet. 
  http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg (without 
  corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to keep temps 
  down)  Portraits that I like include: 
  http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg 
  http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG Bye for 
  now,  Aylwen Gardiner-Garden  Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy 
  music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books 1480s - 1890s : Renaissance 
  to Victorian http://www.earthlydelights.com.au   
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Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown

2009-02-10 Thread Aylwen Garden
Hi De
Thanks for those leads. I'm thinking off taking off the tabs at the
waist as they were an afterthought as the rest of my dance group wears
English elizabethan. Then make a partlet (?) like in the Bronzino
paintings.
Bye for now,

Aylwen Gardiner-Garden

Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books
1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au




On Tue, Feb 10, 2009 at 6:31 AM, otsisto otsi...@socket.net wrote:
 first, if you are leaning towards Italian you might want to get on the
 Italian Ren yahoo groups site.
 Your outfit is closer in style of the mid 1500s English and French.
 Perhaps instead of revamping the dress you might want to make another gown.
 Besides Realm of Venus there are also
 Festive Attyre, mainly Florentine
 http://festiveattyre.com/research/index.html
 but costume wise (clicking on the pictures will get you to dress diaries,
 usually)
 http://festiveattyre.com/gallery/index.html

 Oonagh's
 http://www.geocities.com/oonaghsown/index2.html

 The Purple files
 http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/Kat's_Closet.html

 De

 -Original Message-
 Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has
 been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to
 any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to
 Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work
 from as well.
 Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown,
 and what period it might fit into best of all.
 Pictures of it are at
 http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg
 I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton
 chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style
 of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet.
 http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg
 (without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to
 keep temps down)

 Portraits that I like include:
 http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg
 http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG
 Bye for now,

 Aylwen Gardiner-Garden



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[h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown

2009-02-09 Thread Aylwen Garden
Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It
has been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as
belonging to any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and
probably move more to Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to
find some portraits to work from as well.
Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this
gown, and what period it might fit into best of all.
Pictures of it are at
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg
I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton
chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style
of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet.
http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg
(without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to
keep temps down)

Portraits that I like include:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG
Bye for now,

Aylwen Gardiner-Garden

Earthly Delights Historic Dance Academy
music ~ dancing ~ sewing ~ patterns ~ books
1480s - 1890s : Renaissance to Victorian
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au
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Re: [h-cost] Sorting out a confused gown

2009-02-09 Thread otsisto
first, if you are leaning towards Italian you might want to get on the
Italian Ren yahoo groups site.
Your outfit is closer in style of the mid 1500s English and French.
Perhaps instead of revamping the dress you might want to make another gown.
Besides Realm of Venus there are also
Festive Attyre, mainly Florentine
http://festiveattyre.com/research/index.html
but costume wise (clicking on the pictures will get you to dress diaries,
usually)
http://festiveattyre.com/gallery/index.html

Oonagh's
http://www.geocities.com/oonaghsown/index2.html

The Purple files
http://katerina.purplefiles.net/garb/Kat's_Closet.html

De

-Original Message-
Some years ago I copied a renaissance gown I saw on the internet. It has
been added to over the years and is no longer identifiable as belonging to
any certain period. I would like to sort it out, and probably move more to
Italian with a sheer partlet etc. I'd love to find some portraits to work
from as well.
Can anyone advise me on what might be the best way forward with this gown,
and what period it might fit into best of all.
Pictures of it are at
http://www.earthlydelights.com.au/garden_family.jpg
I do not like to wear a solid partlet, and now have a gathered cotton
chemise with full sleeves to wear underneath. I have not seen my style
of sleeve in any Italian portraits yet.
http://profile.ak.facebook.com/v228/127/105/n59547_9038.jpg
(without corset here as dancing on Saturday in heatwave, trying to
keep temps down)

Portraits that I like include:
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Music1560s.jpg
http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/wardrobe/Trictrac.JPG
Bye for now,

Aylwen Gardiner-Garden



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