Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
> I am working on a wedding gown with > raglan sleeves; the neckline looks like > some of the examples cited within the > past week. So, I'm wondering what to > do when you love the look, but are worried > about the sleeves sliding too far off the > shoulders. Would you narrow the top of > the sleeve (that makes up the over-the- > shoulder part of the neckline)? This is a > modern-style dress with simple princess > lines, done in silk matelasse underlined with > silk organza. Thanks a million. Make sure the body side seams go far up and as close to the armpit as is possible. The neckline can come right out the edges of the shoulder this way. What keeps the sleeves up in my 16thC garments is this combined with the neckline being all cut on the straight, so there is no stretch to allow the sleeves to be pulled down. Even the extremely wide neckline of my Anna Meyer dress doesn't fall down despite being too wide. And with my better cut dresses I have full range of motion in my arms. Narrowing the top of the sleeve section will only pull the body up and make a higher neckline, you can play around with the angle of the join between body and sleeve to get a snugger fit. How far have you got into the making of this dress? If you have already cut the fashion fabric to size you may need to resort to stay tapes at the neckline and maybe elsewhere. I have used elastic stays with success. You make a case for them or herringbone sitch around them (but not into the elastic) then tack one end, pull the other to fit tack that down, trim of the excess. The area will gather a little when not worn but fit smoothly when worn. http://hungryzombiecouture.blogspot.com/2007/08/butterick-4745-simplicity-3837.html Described a little more succinctly here;) Michaela de bruce http://glittersweet.com ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
If you make the back in a V neckline with the point of the V about 5 inches below the nape of the neck, they won't go anywhere, especially if you put twill tape in the edge of the neckline so it can't stretch anywhere. If you bring the sides of the front of the neckline close in to the neck and put the back of the neckline at the nape of the neck, they really won't go anywhere. Lingerie loops (or bra loops) are good for some things, but if the sleeves are heavy enough to drag the dress off her shoulders, they might be heavy enough to drag the brastraps off, too. Melanie Schuessler On Aug 28, 2007, at 11:43 AM, Maureen Conklin wrote: I am working on a wedding gown with raglan sleeves; the neckline looks like some of the examples cited within the past week. So, I'm wondering what to do when you love the look, but are worried about the sleeves sliding too far off the shoulders. Would you narrow the top of the sleeve (that makes up the over-the- shoulder part of the neckline)? This is a modern-style dress with simple princess lines, done in silk matelasse underlined with silk organza. Thanks a million. ~ Maureen == ~ Twinkle, dammit! ~ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
If it's a modern dress, there should be no objection to sewing bra loops into the shoulder seam. They're very comforting when you need your mind to be on other things! Sew True in NYC www.sewtrue.com has pre-made ones, very narrow ribbon and tiny snaps, in black or white. I'm sure other tailoring supply places carry them too. I haven't noticed them in places like JoAnn's though. --Ruth Anne Baumgartner scholar gypsy and amateur costumer On Aug 28, 2007, at 2:04 PM, Beteena Paradise wrote: I would raise the back of the neckline so that the sleeves were less likely to fall. From my experience, tighter sleeve tops doesn't always help. Good luck. :) Teena Maureen Conklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am working on a wedding gown with raglan sleeves; the neckline looks like some of the examples cited within the past week. So, I'm wondering what to do when you love the look, but are worried about the sleeves sliding too far off the shoulders. Would you narrow the top of the sleeve (that makes up the over-the- shoulder part of the neckline)? This is a modern-style dress with simple princess lines, done in silk matelasse underlined with silk organza. Thanks a million. ~ Maureen == ~ Twinkle, dammit! ~ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
Thank you. I still can't decide if the sleeves are really falling down, or if it just feels that way. :) Any other suggestions are welcome, too. Thanks. ~ M. Original Message Follows From: Beteena Paradise <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Reply-To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Historical Costume <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Subject: Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of) Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 11:04:08 -0700 (PDT) I would raise the back of the neckline so that the sleeves were less likely to fall. From my experience, tighter sleeve tops doesn't always help. Good luck. :) Teena ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
I would raise the back of the neckline so that the sleeves were less likely to fall. From my experience, tighter sleeve tops doesn't always help. Good luck. :) Teena Maureen Conklin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: I am working on a wedding gown with raglan sleeves; the neckline looks like some of the examples cited within the past week. So, I'm wondering what to do when you love the look, but are worried about the sleeves sliding too far off the shoulders. Would you narrow the top of the sleeve (that makes up the over-the- shoulder part of the neckline)? This is a modern-style dress with simple princess lines, done in silk matelasse underlined with silk organza. Thanks a million. ~ Maureen == ~ Twinkle, dammit! ~ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
[h-cost] Tudor sleeves again (sort of)
I am working on a wedding gown with raglan sleeves; the neckline looks like some of the examples cited within the past week. So, I'm wondering what to do when you love the look, but are worried about the sleeves sliding too far off the shoulders. Would you narrow the top of the sleeve (that makes up the over-the- shoulder part of the neckline)? This is a modern-style dress with simple princess lines, done in silk matelasse underlined with silk organza. Thanks a million. ~ Maureen == ~ Twinkle, dammit! ~ ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
