Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-07-01 Thread Patricia Dunham
didn't mean to diss any non-East coaching/driving folk; just that what I found on-line first was the Newport weekend page... ch. On Jun 29, 2012, at 7:57 AM, Data-Samtak Susan wrote: A correction to the the East Coast upper crust here in the US.: Many horse owners ride and drive their

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-07-01 Thread penny1a
Thank you to everyone for explaining what is a whip. Penny Ladnier, owner The Costume Gallery Websites www.costumegallery.com 15 websites of fashion, costume, and textile history FaceBook: http://www.facebook.com/TheCostumeGallery ___ h-costume

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-07-01 Thread Katy Bishop
penn...@costumegallery.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2012 12:41 AM Subject: [h-cost] What is a Whip? I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Audrey Bergeron-Morin
The whip would be the driver, or, in other words, the person whipping the horse, or handling the whip. Simple transfer of tool name to occupation. On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 12:41 AM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Data-Samtak Susan
Whip means the Driver of the cart or carriage. The Driver carries a whip to communicate with the carriage horse (NOT to beat it) because when driving you do not have legs to guide the horse. Used correctly, the whip is used to reach the horse's side and touch him with the whip, instead of a

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Beteena Paradise
AM Subject: [h-cost] What is a Whip? I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving.  What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men who are guests on a coach wear morning or afternoon dress according to the hour of the day on which

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Beteena Paradise
: [h-cost] What is a Whip? I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving.  What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men who are guests on a coach wear morning or afternoon dress according to the hour of the day on which the vehicle

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Emily Gilbert
My guess is that it means the person driving the coach or carriage. A century earlier, during the Regency era, someone who was good at driving a horse or horses was called a notable whip. Emily On 6/27/2012 11:41 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Janet Davis
In a Regency context, a great whip would be a gentleman who excelled at driving horses attached to some kind of carriage. This would not be used for the man who drove coaches for a living but only for someone of means who liked to race and show off his skill. Janet

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Ginni Morgan
I believe the term whip, as used here, refers to the driver who carries (and uses) an actual whip. A whip carried the whip. Depending on the context of the useage, there may be overtones of skill indicated. A man who was a poor whip wasn't very good at driving his curricle, phaeton, or other

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Cin
Isnt the whip the driver of the coach? The others sound like his friends. What a fun question! --cin On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 9:41 PM, penn...@costumegallery.com wrote: I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Patricia Dunham
from context on this page http://vasportsman.com/Coaching_in_Newport.pdf, I believe that in the modern sport of Coaching, whip may refer to the main driver, usually the owner or at least the organizer of a coaching group, the one who weilds the literal whip. Coaching, as is currently quite

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip? My Take on it..

2012-06-29 Thread Melody Watts
From: penn...@costumegallery.com penn...@costumegallery.com To: h-costume h-cost...@indra.com Sent: Wednesday, June 27, 2012 9:41 PM Subject: [h-cost] What is a Whip? I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving.  What / Who

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-29 Thread Data-Samtak Susan
A correction to the the East Coast upper crust here in the US.: Many horse owners ride and drive their horses in the USA. Some folks drive one pony and others can afford to drive 4 horses pulling a large carriage, as described in the original email. Some folks drive just for fun and other

[h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-28 Thread penny1a
I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men who are guests on a coach wear morning or afternoon dress according to the hour of the day on which the vehicle makes its start. The

Re: [h-cost] What is a Whip?

2012-06-28 Thread R Lloyd Mitchell
-costume h-cost...@indra.com Subject: [h-cost] What is a Whip?I am working with a 1914 etiquette book and a person titled Whip is used in the section about Dress When Driving. What / Who is a Whip in this context? Men who are guests on a coach wear morning or afternoon dress according to the hour