not affect their jobs.
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and that's that. Besides, these days people are afraid of
getting sued for sexual harrassment if they hit on someone in the office.
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snip
In the offices I've worked in, it was the secretaries and lower-level
assistants that wore the snazzy
except
for people who are fatally ill or otherwise medically desperate, for
whom it is worth the substantial risks. If you've ever had a few
problems with your Miscrosoft programs, can you imagine what buggy
software could do INSIDE YOU?
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this week or covering yourself with green body hair?
Though I should certainly hate to have to believe that Mr. Gates and
Mr. Ballmer are G-d and Jesus rolled into one...
Nah, they're more powerful.
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. Luckily he only wears them to do yard work.
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Hey, my husband still wears the crew-necked white undershirt sticking
out of the shirt neck.
That's wrong?!? I'd far rather show
other than in those countries if wages rise there.
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If we're talking 20-30 years from now, that's enough time for Indians to
start a retro trend. Mybe not precisely traditional clothing but styles
derived from it, or traditional fabrics made into nontraditional
styles. Or maybe color influences, or several of the above.
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this
a recent trend that started in India.
If this trend continues, I also expect shortly (maybe next summer) to
see the embroidered Eastern European style peasant blouses, of the
1970s, and possibly kebayas, a 1970s trend that some people are also
trying to revive in Indonesia.
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Web addresses please, if there are any!
Fran
--
That certainly depends on where you live. I recently moved from Jackson Heights (Queens
County, New York City), after almost 30 years there. The place is often referred to as
Little India and traditional
is apparently the other essential costuming accessory for
chemists (and probably mad scientists)--badly stained hands.
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Ruth Anne Baumgartner wrote:
The lab coat is a knee-length heavy cotton (usually white) unlined
coat
Postal money orders at least can be researched as cashed/not cashed,
provided you save the money order number.
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And I would pay by check, because your bank can tell you if it was
cashed and will have the record, which you do not get so easily
One thing to do might be to have people submit not only their own
photos, but a brief statement (like one paragraph) about their goal in
creating the costume and what they want out of a critique. Like, their
goal was 100% accuracy for a woman's Viking outfit, their goal was to
create as good
this costume, many may
balk at claiming it's actually their work when it is not.
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Kimiko Small wrote:
Thank you Fran for stating what should be the obvious, and reminding
me of something I often forget in my recreation attempts. I really
have to remember to set a specific
I think it's also called feed sack fabric and is sometimes available at
quilting stores, including on-line ones. This is what I gather from
some groups I'm on, I've never bought any myself.
Hope this helps.
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this at a reasonable price?
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and reputed to be one of the longest novels
in the English language, perhaps _the_ longest. I haven't read it and
I'm not going to, as I gather it gets quite tiresome.
But the film, with the action left in and much of the moralizing
stripped out, is another story.
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the same way and responds in the same tone, Yours, I believe?
It's a fantastic film. I don't understand why BBC waited over ten years
to put it on DVD.
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I saw this when first out and was disappointed
as entertainment, not a documentary on how to
layer 18th-century clothing.
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Suzi, making an 18th century chemise to be worn with an 18th century
corset and wedding dress.
I thought the costumes were, in general, good
Encouraging--did she read the full or the abridged (a mere 700 pages)
edition?
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Gail Scott Finke wrote:
I haven't seen the film, but I actually do know someone who read the whole
book. She liked it.
Gail Finke
strips most of that out. Clarissa is still a bit insufferable
and overly passive (in fact self-destructive IMO). But the action is so
compressed you can understand why she didn't have time to think a way
out of her troubles.
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valid.
I agree you're entitled to express express your point of view--just as I
am entitled to express mine.
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Suzi Clarke wrote:
You try explaining that to someone who doesn't know about costume
history, and wants the dress that so and so wears
I think that in terms of plot, filming, etc. Clarissa is similar and
almost equal to Dangerous Liasions. The costumes are by no means a
dead loss, either. Thing is, they had some points where they wanted to
show skin . . . so they did.
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As for Queen Margot, I had more trouble with the improbability of the
plot.
When Clarissa is down to her corset there are some points being made
about eroticism and vulnerability--but that doesn't mean every costume
in the film is bad.
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Shalincraft is OK, I've bought from them. I got fast service and
reasonable (though not spectacular) quality items.
There are a lot of saris and cholis for sale on eBay.
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Karen R Bergquist wrote:
Here are some sites
I should say, I just looked at Shalincraft and they have a lot more
embroidered stoles than last time I looked, some of which are very tempting.
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I love china-usa. I've gotten a couple of things from them and they were very, very good quality and have held up well.
Thanks for the info on the kebayas!
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Someone wants me
yields dozens and dozens of listings. I've been
stocking up on them in all my favorite colors. My favorites are the
plain fabric ones with gradient/dip dye/ombre. But there's a ton of
calico print ones out there too (which I don't like, but lots of people do).
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not discussing it. Assuming I was
even able to log on, I'd still have more urgent things to worry about.
And now, I'm off to make a contribution.
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Penny Ladnier wrote:
This is probably the only time I have ever written ANY message like
this online
The whole modern wearable art movement is an outgrowth of DIY hippie
crafts. I'm hoping to see the DIY aspects, the loving-hands-at-home
experiments, revived as a foundation for a new generation of fiber artists.
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My non-historical 'costumes
.
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Good to know that's where/when/how working with
textiles and fiber went from something one did if you
were too poor to buy you clothes to something one did
as an artform :-) When did off the rack clothes
become THE WAY
BTW, my husband's answer to the question What did hippies wear? is
dense clouds of smoke.
Fran
Carol Kocian wrote:
I was looking at the way certain eras of fashion are associated
with an area, which is different than what people were actually
wearing. It's not the reality, it's
of modern RTW.
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WickedFrau wrote:
I missed the first post. What is RTW???
I used to never buy any clothing because I would always think...I can
make that. But of course I rarely got around to it. Then another
sewing friend of mine set me straight
A disposition means with a pattern printed or woven in, to be arranged a
certain way when making the garment. For example, you can get modern
border fabrics, with a special border intended to be used at the
bottom of a skirt.
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. Shipping is very reasonable too, less than I've paid many eBay
sellers for shipping within the US. And fast, and efficient.
BUT, those are all thin cotton skirts . . . and I'm looking for velvet
for fall/winter.
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Renaissance Faires, BTW, are another outgrowth of the hippie movement.
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As far as I know, there were not any texts available for more
accurate patterns despite what the writer had said -- at least, not
by our 21st century standards
mainstream is at least
common. Places like Michael's craft stores carry supplies for making
wearable art, and a few kits for the same.
But what do you call wearable art? I'd say it's something more
avant-garde, or arty, than a nice but mainstream hand-knitted sweater.
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Carolyn Kayta Barrows wrote:
BUT, those are all thin cotton skirts . . . and I'm looking for
velvet for fall/winter.
Does it make sense to layer one of these over what would amount to a
petticoat underneath? The underskirt would keep you warm
and/or trimming), I personally would
pay more.
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Dawn wrote:
http://snipurl.com/hf4r
$8. You couldn't buy the fabric for that little, never mind the work
involved.
http://snipurl.com/hf4t
$24. Still a steal
the environment by
recycling.
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Jacqueline Johnson wrote:
I would agree. Define wearable art. The DIY movement is VERY strong and VERY
mainstream. In particular among teenage girls. Just take a look at Etsy and
you'll see the demographics.
http://www.etsy.com
. But some of the ideas on the net I've seen are really
creative. The Gothic Lolitas seem far too sweet and innocent to be real
Goths though. While, as far as I know, none of my passing Goth
acquaintances actually drink blood, they seem pretty sophisticated.
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-bikini crowd - wearable, but is it art?
Dunno. There's a sense in which, the first time someone makes it, it's
art; but if a bunch of other people make pretty much the same thing, is
it art anymore?
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I come to understand that you may be saying that SCA came out of the
hippie movement. If I am understanding correctly, I would like to say that
SCA was not an outgrowth of the hippie movement, it grew from a history club
at Berkley.
I thought the fantasy author Marion Zimmer Bradley was
the praise turned to condemnation.
Oh, that would be _yardage_. I thought that was silly; if one piece
is art is it really degraded by her making a mere two others? On the
other hand, I have to say that if she'd churned them out by the hundreds
I might stop calling it art.
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It's a very counterculture idea for the mid 1960s.
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Cynthia Virtue wrote:
I thought the fantasy author Marion Zimmer Bradley was supposed to
have started it.
She was part of it. The first SCA event was a goodbye party for
someone going off
, with coarse fabric and the wear
that comes with actual use - is that as much art as the upper class
dress?
I'd say neither is necessarily art. One is fashionable upper-class
dress, the other is lower-class dress.
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not be as happy to include a lovely, expensive
modern upper-class garment of no historically important provenance.
The scarcity of that type of item plays a part too.
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reenactment IMO). But usually such events are public, buy-a-ticket,
because they usually require renting a largish space. And I agree,
people are often allowed to wear modern evening dress, although for some
the attempt at a period costume is stipulated.
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What did they do for ancient Roman reenactment in the 17th century?
Fran
Glenda Robinson wrote:
I've seen references to 17th century ancient Roman /16th
century/fantasy reenactments. The Little Castle at Bolsover was
designed for these sorts of parties.
I know about masques, but was wondering if there was something closer to
a modern reenactment.
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Elizabeth Walpole wrote:
Aren't there a couple of books from around the turn of the 17th century that
feature drawings of costumes for a Masque (i.e. fancy
, and partly because it required wearing
seriously offbeat clothes. Furthermore, that it appealed to people who
already liked wearing seriously offbeat clothes.
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Something happened in the 1960s, and all these things, and Hippies,
came out
I've seen a lot of websites for people who want slaves. How's your
black leather wardrobe?
Fran
I need to extend my ancient reenactment and buy a good slave
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Perhaps, but if I were to describe a person involved in reenactment, I'd
say that (a) they did it pretty regularly and (b) not as part of a
theatrical performance.
Fran
I think it is difficult to determine what is Re-enactment and what
is merely dressing up for an event or occasion.
. But in a Renaissance Faire sales is the primary purpose
of the event.
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In short, SCA events are not a performance for an audience.
Renaissance fairs and nearly all battle re-enactment societies' events
are. And this difference profoundly affects
more, regardless of the records kept?
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Experimental archaeology is a scientific concept that requires a
certain rigor in materials, environment, test design, documentation,
and such that is lacking in most cases.
Marc
What makes it archaeology, as opposed to just learning a task or craft,
even if one of the past?
Fran
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, to
differentiate themselves to outsiders, from more casual participants.
But why worry about what other people think, if what you do is
rewarding to you?
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An important part of the experience is to understand how it *felt* to be a person
I don't think that discovering something is science, per se.
Fran
For instance, one of the questions that keeps getting asked about
medieval shoes is what are the welts for.
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Yes, but personal discovery is not necessarily science.
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Science is all about discovery! (then classification, then explanation, then
testing, then verification.)
Pyro
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It is not neccessarily_ not_ science to try to find evidence to support
a hyphothesis. And unscientific efforts can be made to break one. The
important issue there is objectivity.
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Marc Carlson wrote:
Fran:
I don't think that discovering
it
becomes an issues of My clique says versus your clique says.
This routine is totally different from real scientific discussion.
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Marc Carlson wrote:
Fran:
I don't think that discovering something is science, per se.
I think it has to do
But for social status reasons? Not because, All research to this point
has shown that . . . Or I agree with Smith but that's because
[advancing arguments]?
Fran
ROTFL! Not necessarily. I can't tell you how many scientific
discussions (aka arguments) that I've witnessed that are of
if someone says, Prove yourself to me, I'm
waiting. And I'll push you to the wall with question after question.
Generally, someone who wants to prove a scientific theory wrong, has to
provide some evidence to the contrary himself or herself.
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plausibility.
Not all competition is social, not everyone wants to or is allowed to BS
to compete professionally, and not all screening is personally
supportive or vindictive.
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You mean like Lab XYZ is *the* place to be (rather like publishing
Fred Struthers/Books on Cloth carries a lot of museum catalogs, and can
sometimes be persuaded to special order. His email address is
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Wanda Pease wrote:
I'm not having a lot of luck ordering this from the museum. Someone
, is easier to navigate than
their website.
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True, and the white is probably bleached. I think cotton is not
naturally bright white. Yes, I've considered wearing the skirt over a
colored petticoat, I just have a hankering for a colored one too.
Thanks,
Fran
Joan Jurancich wrote:
Very pretty skirt. The natural color (a light
You could search eBay for antique fans in poor condition and recover them.
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Can anyone help me with what the proper term is for this item? And if
anyone can point me towards websites that might carry this, I'd be
very
is not much on intellectual content, but it's got
great clothes. For those who don't know, it's about two fictional
sisters who started a couture house in the 1920s.
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Suzi,
I take it you applied for this costuming job, but didn't get it?
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he hated costume that did not look right, and in particular was
horribly disappointed with David Starkey, whose documentary series on
Elizabeth used her original costumes for Elizabeth R but for the
wrong
of the country I originally came from,
everything was named for Washington. Towns, streets, schools, you name
it. There was hardly an 18th-century house or inn around that
Washington didn't supposedly sleep in. He was Our Father, larger than
life.
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in parts of the US where that
part of history didn't happen to speak of? Granted, there won't be the
existing organizations, the historic houses and such, to build it
around. But the SCA has done very well in the absence of medieval
castles . . . .
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not be the body of myth that
most affects you emotionally, but it definitely exists, and it's
definitely only partly in accordance with historical fact.
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. They are partly emotionally motivated at all
times. As long as you don't allow emotion to triumph over abstract
reasoning, there is no problem with the quality of your reasoning.
Myths may not be facts, but they are real and valuable.
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Marc
give up playing with dolls because
they're too old. You just need to recognize them for what they are, and
also recognize that they may be partly true, that they may contain
actual historical facts.
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Shane Sheridan wrote:
Here is another
it.
I'm not saying all novels, or films, or other art forms are equally
good in my own estimation. But the fact remains that many people love
and get value from things I don't think are good, and from things our
current marketing trend has declared pop culture.
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already think of the pigeon-front look, the
Titanic look, the flapper look, the 30s Hollywood look, the World War 2
look, the swing 1950s look, the Mod look of the 60s, the Hippie look
of the 70s . . . it's just the 80s and 90s where we're still undecided
on The Image.
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published, that it's much harder for the works of any fiction writer to
emerge from the sea of other stuff as even existing, let alone great or not.
I'll tell you who I think the greatest 20th century writer is so far:
Gene Wolfe.
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!
I've never been quite sure who Olivia Newton John is, but I don't think
I really want to know. I think she has something to do with music? but
I don't listen to modern pop or rock or rap music, whatever the thing is
now.
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and such) and I've collected antique and vintage clothing since
I was 16.
And I've gotten by very nicely all this time without having to subject
myself to MTV.
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to be a platform for an excuse to put me
down, I'd say that you don't have much of a platform to stand on. I
suggest you get back to discussing costume in a more general way.
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historic with modern, and so on.
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I'm not primarily into modern fashion either, but I do believe in
being dressed; and on some occasions even well dressed. Right now I'm
wearing an old t-shirt and my everything-else-is-in-the-laundry
jeans
not beauty. If they're happy with it why not?
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and search on (for example)
black velvet jacket.
Hope this helps.
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Hi fran, could you tell me what you search for on ebay to find
interesting stuff? thanks, Kitty
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-class dress is casual, by any means. There
are plenty of jobs where people must wear conservative clothing to
succeed, and so forth.
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Truebut societylike high society, still cares what you wear
sometimes far more than young people. It's
That's at least partly being short--your calves are not where the boots
manufacturer thinks they should be, height-wise. I have the same
problem with long boots.
I also welcome the return of long skirts.
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Suzi Clarke wrote:
At 03:02 24/09
Well, I am rejoicing. I'm buying clothes like I haven't been for years.
Stuff from the 1960s through the 1980s is getting mixed together and
marketed as boho--which is great with me.
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Re-enactors must be rejoicing right now
identities to match their labels, as in I'm boho, that's boho, so I'll
buy it. But individuals are, IMO, much better off looking at lines and
construction and colors and what is convenient for them, and picking it
out regardless of labels, and regardless of where it is sold.
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huge-batwing one recently. And I like sweater-coats--but not belted.
They look dowdy belted.
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right now as far as
I can tell.
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Adele de Maisieres wrote:
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styles. A lot of them just swamp me, though I bought a nice drapey
huge-batwing one recently
eBay always has lots of vintage sweaters and ponchos for sale. . . .
Fran
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beginner members; but regular rehearsals are usually not open for
people to drop in.)
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Kahlara wrote:
Another possibility for finding like minded people, if you are at all into traditional or folk dancing you might check out some of those groups as well
Yes, that's a classic of the period. I have a couple editions of it.
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Sharon Nevin wrote:
At 02:24 PM 3/10/2005, you wrote:
What is the book you are using?
Cutting Out for Student Teachers by Amy K. Smith. 3rd Edition. Printed
By Sir Isaac
which is a rather unusual costume period for films.
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The Moonstone, and there is a good film of
that, which I also have on tape. Lady Audley's Secret is another good
Gothic film.
The BBC Bleak House is on film too.
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Anyway...speaking of Dickens and Diana Rigg, there's a Bleak House I've
never seen. BBC, I
of liked the modernized Great
Expectations with Gwyneth Paltrow (think Dickens Lite), aside from the
music.
I am looking forward to the new Bleak House. Do you know when it will
be coming out and especially, coming out on DVD?
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com
Kate M Bunting
using my knowledge of period patterns and clothing, and what's
left of my college German. And there isn't an infinite number of foreign
sources either, nor are they, as a general rule, hugely different from
the ones in English.
Fran
Lavolta Press Books of Historic Patterns
http
Sorry, I meant not the best original books of patterns for all time,
but the best ones for women's clothes of the late 1870s and early 1880s,
specifically; not before or after.
Fran
Lavolta Press
http://www.lavoltapress.com
The best books in English with women’s clothing patterns that I know
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