Re: [h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

[lisa58]

The two books are good ones, I have them both.

1887 I suspect even the 15 year old and the 19 year old would wear a
small "Traveling bustle". I have a brown "Traveling suit" from the 1880's
made of a rust brown very heavy faille taffeta, relatively simple in
terms of embellishment with matching color velvet collar, wide cuffs and
a matching velvet placket on both sides of the front (this was sometimes
called a "military style").  Dark glass buttons--medium large.  Every
part of hte bodice and skirt is lined in somewhat heavier fabric.  It has
the extra gathering in the back that meant a bustle would have been worn,
or could be taken off for the actual train trip and replaced once at the
destination?

 I'll look through my photos and see what I can find.

Interesting search.

Lisa Ashton
Miss Lizzy's Traveling Historical Fashion Show




On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 21:37:57 +1300 michaela de bruce
 writes:
> I know I have a number of group photos from the 1880s, but they are
> obviously dressed for the photos.
> http://store.doverpublications.com/0486265331.html I think may be 
> one of
> the books, the other was a huge tome, green cover, just trying to 
> remember
> the name.
>
https://books.google.co.nz/books/about/Dressed_for_the_Photographer.html?
id=8vkzLIrwUXYC_esc=y
> 
> 
> Oh, 
> http://collection.mccord.mcgill.ca/scripts/advanced_search.php?Lang=1
> has a lot, a lot of photos of the era here. And includes groups :)
> 
> 
> > Okay, I have an overly specific search challenge/request for the 
> list!  I'm
> > looking for illustrations (of any sort, as long as they're primary 
> or
> > really
> > really accurate secondary sources) of what upper middle class 
> girls of 9,
> > 15, and 19 years old would wear in the summer of 1887 as they're 
> boarding a
> > train for a ride across the US.  To be even MORE specific (and 
> this and the
> > train aspect are where I've had trouble with my own searches so 
> far) I'm
> > looking for rear, side, and 3/4 rear views.  The 1880s is 
> decidedly not my
> > period--can anyone help me?
> >
> > (This is for a book cover illustration, and okay, period accuracy 
> isn't
> > strictly speaking a requirement, because maybe .05% of readers 
> would catch
> > any mistakes, but darn it, _I'd_ know!  You know?)
> >
> 
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Re: [h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

[michaela de bruce]

I know I have a number of group photos from the 1880s, but they are
obviously dressed for the photos.
http://store.doverpublications.com/0486265331.html I think may be one of
the books, the other was a huge tome, green cover, just trying to remember
the name.
https://books.google.co.nz/books/about/Dressed_for_the_Photographer.html?id=8vkzLIrwUXYC_esc=y


Oh, http://collection.mccord.mcgill.ca/scripts/advanced_search.php?Lang=1
has a lot, a lot of photos of the era here. And includes groups :)


> Okay, I have an overly specific search challenge/request for the list!  I'm
> looking for illustrations (of any sort, as long as they're primary or
> really
> really accurate secondary sources) of what upper middle class girls of 9,
> 15, and 19 years old would wear in the summer of 1887 as they're boarding a
> train for a ride across the US.  To be even MORE specific (and this and the
> train aspect are where I've had trouble with my own searches so far) I'm
> looking for rear, side, and 3/4 rear views.  The 1880s is decidedly not my
> period--can anyone help me?
>
> (This is for a book cover illustration, and okay, period accuracy isn't
> strictly speaking a requirement, because maybe .05% of readers would catch
> any mistakes, but darn it, _I'd_ know!  You know?)
>


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Re: [h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

[Elena House]

Hrm, thank you both--I'll check those ideas, but I suspect that school
photos won't show traveling clothing.  Also, since the late 1880s is Not My
Period, I probably _won't_ be able to properly extrapolate what the back
would look like! :)  The group setting doesn't really matter, but I'll
still follow up on those.  Thanks!

-E House

On Thu, Jan 21, 2016 at 2:37 AM, michaela de bruce <
michaela.de.br...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I know I have a number of group photos from the 1880s, but they are
> obviously dressed for the photos.
> http://store.doverpublications.com/0486265331.html I think may be one of
> the books, the other was a huge tome, green cover, just trying to remember
> the name.
>
> https://books.google.co.nz/books/about/Dressed_for_the_Photographer.html?id=8vkzLIrwUXYC_esc=y
>
>
> Oh, http://collection.mccord.mcgill.ca/scripts/advanced_search.php?Lang=1
> has a lot, a lot of photos of the era here. And includes groups :)
>
>
> > Okay, I have an overly specific search challenge/request for the list!
> I'm
> > looking for illustrations (of any sort, as long as they're primary or
> > really
> > really accurate secondary sources) of what upper middle class girls of 9,
> > 15, and 19 years old would wear in the summer of 1887 as they're
> boarding a
> > train for a ride across the US.  To be even MORE specific (and this and
> the
> > train aspect are where I've had trouble with my own searches so far) I'm
> > looking for rear, side, and 3/4 rear views.  The 1880s is decidedly not
> my
> > period--can anyone help me?
> >
> > (This is for a book cover illustration, and okay, period accuracy isn't
> > strictly speaking a requirement, because maybe .05% of readers would
> catch
> > any mistakes, but darn it, _I'd_ know!  You know?)
> >
>
>
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[h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

[Elena House]

Okay, I have an overly specific search challenge/request for the list!  I'm
looking for illustrations (of any sort, as long as they're primary or
really really accurate secondary sources) of what upper middle class girls
of 9, 15, and 19 years old would wear in the summer of 1887 as they're
boarding a train for a ride across the US.  To be even MORE specific (and
this and the train aspect are where I've had trouble with my own searches
so far) I'm looking for rear, side, and 3/4 rear views.  The 1880s is
decidedly not my period--can anyone help me?

(This is for a book cover illustration, and okay, period accuracy isn't
strictly speaking a requirement, because maybe .05% of readers would catch
any mistakes, but darn it, _I'd_ know!  You know?)

-E House
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Re: [h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

[Sharon Collier]

Have you tried school group photos? I know most are front facing, posed
shots, but you could extrapolate the backs from knowing what the front
looked like. A girls school might have photos dating back that far.
Sharon C. 
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Subject: [h-cost] searching for 1887 misses' fashion illustrations

Okay, I have an overly specific search challenge/request for the list!  I'm
looking for illustrations (of any sort, as long as they're primary or really
really accurate secondary sources) of what upper middle class girls of 9,
15, and 19 years old would wear in the summer of 1887 as they're boarding a
train for a ride across the US.  To be even MORE specific (and this and the
train aspect are where I've had trouble with my own searches so far) I'm
looking for rear, side, and 3/4 rear views.  The 1880s is decidedly not my
period--can anyone help me?

(This is for a book cover illustration, and okay, period accuracy isn't
strictly speaking a requirement, because maybe .05% of readers would catch
any mistakes, but darn it, _I'd_ know!  You know?)

-E House
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