Re: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600
Actually, the first shirt of B 4486 (the collarless one)is really close to a late 1500's shirt/chemise. Just remove the gathers at the top of the sleeves and add a straight collar (rectangular piece of cloth.) You may want to remove some of the fullness at the cuffs also, it's hard to tell from the picture. And don't do the eyelets and cross lacing. Just leave the slit open and tie closed at the collar with one or 2 ties (depending on the width/height of the collar) If you have The Tudor Tailor, there are great patterns in there. If he wants the ruffled look, do box pleating instead, on the collar and cuffs. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 8:41 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600 Oh goody - I get to make a shirt for a teenage boy - a fully adult-sized teenage boy with really limited and specific tastes in clothes. He has a shirt, acquired from a vendor at an SCA event, that he loves and that looks really great on him. His shirt is not really period for SCA but he likes it, so what's a mom to do? I'm hoping to make him something that he'll like as well as that one, without the event price-tag and maybe a little bit more period. Butterick 4486 looks a LOT like his shirt, and would be even closer if I just add a simple collar - no problem. But I'm pretty sure it's not period - not close for anything any earlier than maybe Victorian? Likewise, Simplicity 3758 is probably only somewhat close to the 1800s and not pre-1600. So what would be a good shirt pattern, commercial or drafted by me, for a shirt that will appeal to a teenager in the way that the commercial patterns mentioned above would, but would still be a little bit closer to pre-1600? He has a lovely Bocksten-style tunic which, so far, he has shown no interest in wearing. I would have loved to outfitted him in Viking, but he seems to prefer something in a later period. I am planning on making him a lovely chocolate brown, cotton velveteen doublet, but that's not at the top of the costume to-do list right now. Ok, so I'm only asking the impossible - that's life with teens! Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600
-Original Message- Butterick 4486 looks a LOT like his shirt, De: the lacing and the ruffles of this pattern is not pre1600s. Here are men's Italian extant shirts http://realmofvenus.renaissanceitaly.net/workbox/extmencam.htm Likewise, Simplicity 3758 is probably only somewhat close to the 1800s and not pre-1600. De: This is correct. This would be something close to what I have come to know as the poet's shirt. Margo Anderson's Elizabethan gentleman's garments http://www.margospatterns.com/Products/ElizGntlmnWrdb.html Scroll down to Two styles of shirts and click to get an idea of shirt. Reconstructiong History http://tinyurl.com/33sxw43 So what would be a good shirt pattern, commercial or drafted by me, for a shirt that will appeal to a teenager in the way that the commercial patterns mentioned above would, but would still be a little bit closer to pre-1600? ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
Re: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600
Oh, foolish me. I have the Tudor Tailor. Why don't I think of it when I'm dealing with questions like this one? Perfect solution - draft it out of TT. Thanks! Laurie -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Sharon Collier Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 1:20 AM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: Re: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600 Actually, the first shirt of B 4486 (the collarless one)is really close to a late 1500's shirt/chemise. Just remove the gathers at the top of the sleeves and add a straight collar (rectangular piece of cloth.) You may want to remove some of the fullness at the cuffs also, it's hard to tell from the picture. And don't do the eyelets and cross lacing. Just leave the slit open and tie closed at the collar with one or 2 ties (depending on the width/height of the collar) If you have The Tudor Tailor, there are great patterns in there. If he wants the ruffled look, do box pleating instead, on the collar and cuffs. -Original Message- From: h-costume-boun...@indra.com [mailto:h-costume-boun...@indra.com] On Behalf Of Laurie Taylor Sent: Saturday, October 16, 2010 8:41 PM To: 'Historical Costume' Subject: [h-cost] Shirt pattern - SCA period - pre-1600 Oh goody - I get to make a shirt for a teenage boy - a fully adult-sized teenage boy with really limited and specific tastes in clothes. He has a shirt, acquired from a vendor at an SCA event, that he loves and that looks really great on him. His shirt is not really period for SCA but he likes it, so what's a mom to do? I'm hoping to make him something that he'll like as well as that one, without the event price-tag and maybe a little bit more period. Butterick 4486 looks a LOT like his shirt, and would be even closer if I just add a simple collar - no problem. But I'm pretty sure it's not period - not close for anything any earlier than maybe Victorian? Likewise, Simplicity 3758 is probably only somewhat close to the 1800s and not pre-1600. So what would be a good shirt pattern, commercial or drafted by me, for a shirt that will appeal to a teenager in the way that the commercial patterns mentioned above would, but would still be a little bit closer to pre-1600? He has a lovely Bocksten-style tunic which, so far, he has shown no interest in wearing. I would have loved to outfitted him in Viking, but he seems to prefer something in a later period. I am planning on making him a lovely chocolate brown, cotton velveteen doublet, but that's not at the top of the costume to-do list right now. Ok, so I'm only asking the impossible - that's life with teens! Laurie T. ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume ___ h-costume mailing list h-costume@mail.indra.com http://mail.indra.com/mailman/listinfo/h-costume
