[hackers] More on Deanster Participant Content
After Zephyr's previous posting about content for Deanster, I just wanted to give y'all a little more of my vision for the whole Deanster user expression piece. You're indubitably the boss on this one, so the call is yours, but I wanted to give you the whole nine yards. The notion for this sprung from the fact that there's a wealth of ideas and content being created by the devotees of the Official Campaign Blog. Originally, I had thought of hacking Movable Type so that there would be a way for users to concur with other users' comments; to mark them as an idea, a phrase, a story worth saving. This way at the end of the day, you can have someone from your team browse through the 25 most highlighted posts. Creating a way for the Official Site to grant recognition to stellar user participation will spur greater participation as well as greater quality. From that came a discussion with Britt about how deanforamerica.com might be re-designed. I've attached an image of what he's come up with. It shows the idea pretty well: a quote from a participant for every section. This would be easy enough to set up if it were static, but my immediate thought was that it should be dynamic. It should be a rotation of many quotes, which will further drive participation as it shows that everyone has a chance of having their voice heard. But for you to try and do this -- incorporate participant content -- requires some structure be built around it. So I thought of a facility on Deanster which would let you elicit on-topic quotes from your userbase; there would be some administrative overhead in terms of flagging content either as worth highlighting (good) or administrative review (bad), but this won't take much time at all. 90% of it can be done by users. Here's how: 1) Most of the content will be neither worth posting on DFA or worth badgering anyone about in terms of taking it down. The process I describe here will happen less than 10% of the time. 2) Objectionable content (e.g. explicit photos, objectionable statements) can be flagged by any user and quickly addressed by the moderation staff. If you create an environment that doesn't provide an opportunity to create entropy, then it won't happen. In other words, if people don't see bogus profiles, they're far less likely to try it themselves. 3) High-quality content can also be flagged by any user (though not for themselves), and dealt with in the same fashion. 4) Volunteer moderators (trusted participants) can further vet flagged content. People will kill to have this job. They can send warning letters to objectionable content posters and give a more seasoned thumbs up to high-quality profiles. 5) Finally, one staff member can invest an hour a day selecting the best of the best and flagging them as worthy of the DFA homepage. Likewise they can take the official action of booting people who don't respond to a warning letter. At this point were talking about 1% of total posts, so it's not really a lot of overhead. Do we think this will cure a potential troll problem? IMHO, rigorous moderation is sufficient for stopping harmful BS. By giving users a flag for review button, you give them a means of doing something about trolls without feeding them. cheers -josh Politics is the art of controlling your environment. Participate! Elect Howard Dean President in 2004! http://www.outlandishjosh.com/politics/dean/
Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles
Deanster could also act as a (Jabber/Drupal) single-sign-on point for any Drupal Dean Nodes a Deanster also frequents. We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite direction? Can unofficial nodes act as single-signons for Deanster? All this implies is that Deanster will trust an external source for identity validation, a necessary component of any distributed identity framework. To put it another way, how is this different from Deanster accepting MS Passport validation? Not that I'm recommending this, but you get the point. cheers -josh
Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Joshua Koenig wrote: Deanster could also act as a (Jabber/Drupal) single-sign-on point for any Drupal Dean Nodes a Deanster also frequents. We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite direction? Can unofficial nodes act as single-signons for Deanster? All this implies is that Deanster will trust an external source for identity validation, a necessary component of any distributed identity framework. To put it another way, how is this different from Deanster accepting MS Passport validation? Not that I'm recommending this, but you get the point. I don't see any problem with the opposite direction. THere shouldnt be any bad implications of Deanster using trusted node logins that I can think of. The issue with nodes using Deanster logins is that - if the nodes authentication is controlled by official DFA services, then the nodes must become official / vetted as well. This make sense? -Zack cheers -josh
Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Joshua Koenig wrote: We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite direction? Can unofficial nodes act as single-signons for Deanster? All this implies is that Deanster will trust an external source for identity validation, a necessary component of any distributed identity framework. To put it another way, how is this different from Deanster accepting MS Passport validation? I don't see any problem with the opposite direction. THere shouldnt be any bad implications of Deanster using trusted node logins that I can think of. The issue with nodes using Deanster logins is that - if the nodes authentication is controlled by official DFA services, then the nodes must become official / vetted as well. This make sense? It does make some sense. I think it's a little over-cautious (e.g. MS doesn't have to endorse every site that wants to use Passport) but it's not that big a deal. Having it work by allowing local Nodes to be trusted sources for identity is probably better anyway. More of a foundation for distributed architecture. Agreed on all counts ;) -Zack cheers -josh
Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles
We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite direction? Can unofficial nodes act as single-signons for Deanster? All this implies is that Deanster will trust an external source for identity validation, a necessary component of any distributed identity framework. To put it another way, how is this different from Deanster accepting MS Passport validation? I don't see any problem with the opposite direction. THere shouldnt be any bad implications of Deanster using trusted node logins that I can think of. The issue with nodes using Deanster logins is that - if the nodes authentication is controlled by official DFA services, then the nodes must become official / vetted as well. This make sense? It does make some sense. I think it's a little over-cautious (e.g. MS doesn't have to endorse every site that wants to use Passport) but it's not that big a deal. Having it work by allowing local Nodes to be trusted sources for identity is probably better anyway. More of a foundation for distributed architecture. cheers -josh
RE: [hackers] Draft Deanster Design Doc
Agreed. Ultimately there will be more room for this, but I want to focus on basic model first. Also, the fact of limited expression will actually drive people to two things we're excited about -- conversations w/eachother and setting up their own nodes. Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Joshua Koenig Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] Draft Deanster Design Doc The one thing that I would change in Josh's model is just that we are not thinking of this as a place for public expression (why I support Dean) not because we don't want that expression, but because (1) there are other venues for it, and (2) it drastically (or almost completely) eviscerates the moderation/management needs if we don't provide that space--if there is no enter your own content here but all pick and choose and links to forum, we don't need to vet who enters at ALL which is ideal (this is the big diff between us and friendster -- we don't have staff who can routinely check every new person and we don't have people who want to kill the campaign by posting obscene or harassing posts (that's the big concern, not dissent). I built this in after talking with Britt about the idea for future Howard Dean sites to include rotating volunteer statements as part of the design. Also, for this to work users need to be at least able to tell other people a little about them. If you're worried about Trolls (people trying to sabotage the system socially), the best way to deal is to have a flag for review button ala Friendster. Let the users do 90% of the moderation for you. It seems if we can do that and roll it out, we can then add other features like uploading contacts and rating -- but I'm not the programming guru. Yes, a phased approach is best. I'll turn out some more detail today. Then we start breaking this (and MetaDean) into discreet chunks and handing off the work. You know, the fun part. cheers -j
[hackers] Deanster run at DFA
Just catching the tail end of this, but we're fully planning to run deanster, I've got the server space planned, and I'm looking to hire for someone to administer. So all we're doing is making sure its designed in a way we can manage. There's a lot of projects we're going to build on this, and it runs off our main database (we'll be sending out email asking folks to register additional info to fill out deanster profile). This is one that we're completely committed to -- and it would be silly to set up rival deansters off site! Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: Joshua Koenig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:26 PM To: zachary rosen Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Zephyr Teachout; Jon Lebkowsky; Ka-Ping Yee Subject: Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. What about the opposite direction? Can unofficial nodes act as single-signons for Deanster? All this implies is that Deanster will trust an external source for identity validation, a necessary component of any distributed identity framework. To put it another way, how is this different from Deanster accepting MS Passport validation? I don't see any problem with the opposite direction. THere shouldnt be any bad implications of Deanster using trusted node logins that I can think of. The issue with nodes using Deanster logins is that - if the nodes authentication is controlled by official DFA services, then the nodes must become official / vetted as well. This make sense? It does make some sense. I think it's a little over-cautious (e.g. MS doesn't have to endorse every site that wants to use Passport) but it's not that big a deal. Having it work by allowing local Nodes to be trusted sources for identity is probably better anyway. More of a foundation for distributed architecture. cheers -josh
[hackers] Arrrrgggghhh! I need help...
Everytime I post something to the site I'm working on, I get this message: user error: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to database 'database_name' query: LOCK TABLES sequences WRITE in /home/xx/public_html/drupal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 75. I edited the private stuff...but anyhow...could anyone advise me about how to resolve this problem? I can still post things, but everytime I do I get the error message. I've tried everything I can think of to fix it and it's just not happening for me. Thanks in advance for any help... Shannon
Re: [hackers] Arrrrgggghhh! I need help...
In includes/conf.php make sure you defined the proper username password for the database: $db_url = mysql://drupal:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/drupal; Also make sure you created the database user, assigned a password to it, and granted all permissions for drupal.* to that user. On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:11 PM, Shannon Little wrote: Everytime I post something to the site I'm working on, I get this message: user error: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to database 'database_name' query: LOCK TABLES sequences WRITE in /home/xx/public_html/drupal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 75. I edited the private stuff...but anyhow...could anyone advise me about how to resolve this problem? I can still post things, but everytime I do I get the error message. I've tried everything I can think of to fix it and it's just not happening for me. Thanks in advance for any help... Shannon -- To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. --Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)
Re: [hackers] Arrrrgggghhh! I need help...
Did all that...I think it's in permissions somewhere. How should things be set for permissions? Maybe that's where my problem is. I know how to chmod, but I'm not all that clear on how different files should be set. On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Mike Cohen wrote: In includes/conf.php make sure you defined the proper username password for the database: $db_url = mysql://drupal:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/drupal; Also make sure you created the database user, assigned a password to it, and granted all permissions for drupal.* to that user. On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:11 PM, Shannon Little wrote: Everytime I post something to the site I'm working on, I get this message: user error: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to database 'database_name' query: LOCK TABLES sequences WRITE in /home/xx/public_html/drupal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 75. I edited the private stuff...but anyhow...could anyone advise me about how to resolve this problem? I can still post things, but everytime I do I get the error message. I've tried everything I can think of to fix it and it's just not happening for me. Thanks in advance for any help... Shannon -- To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. --Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)
RE: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles
Yes, and authenticating users to log onto nodes would constitute vetting / hosting correct? -Zack On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Zephyr Teachout wrote: Not quite! DFA is planning on running Deanster. We're just not vetting nodes or hosting them. No reason we can't link to them, map them, and push them (much like we do w/dean directory). We're just not controlling, directing, or hosting them. Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: zachary rosen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:07 PM To: Joshua Koenig Cc: Ka-Ping Yee; Jon Lebkowsky; Zephyr Teachout; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] Privacy control for profiles On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Joshua Koenig wrote Deanster could also act as a (Jabber/Drupal) single-sign-on point for any Drupal Dean Nodes a Deanster also frequents. We talked about this with Zephyr, and the deal is - if DFA run Deanster then it cannot handle Authentication for the Nodes or they would have to be vetted by DFA (ie official) so I don't think this is possible. -Zack
[hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
Sure, I think it might work. But there is a more basic role for Deanster, and the reason for its urgency (w/the idea of experimenting w/this functionality on top of it). People can't find eachother. Dean supporters in the same area can't find eachother. Dean supporters w/the same interests can't find eachother. We have, incredibly, a nationwide movement of people who happen to run into eachother if they use the get local tools -- or show up wearing buttons -- or are on a listserv. Imagine what it could be if I could search for local people to ask them to join me? The second-and third-level functions are those Josh talked about -- and ultimately very important -- Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: Joshua Koenig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 12:13 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Zephyr Teachout Subject: More on Deanster Participant Content After Zephyr's previous posting about content for Deanster, I just wanted to give y'all a little more of my vision for the whole Deanster user expression piece. You're indubitably the boss on this one, so the call is yours, but I wanted to give you the whole nine yards. The notion for this sprung from the fact that there's a wealth of ideas and content being created by the devotees of the Official Campaign Blog. Originally, I had thought of hacking Movable Type so that there would be a way for users to concur with other users' comments; to mark them as an idea, a phrase, a story worth saving. This way at the end of the day, you can have someone from your team browse through the 25 most highlighted posts. Creating a way for the Official Site to grant recognition to stellar user participation will spur greater participation as well as greater quality. From that came a discussion with Britt about how deanforamerica.com might be re-designed. I've attached an image of what he's come up with. It shows the idea pretty well: a quote from a participant for every section. This would be easy enough to set up if it were static, but my immediate thought was that it should be dynamic. It should be a rotation of many quotes, which will further drive participation as it shows that everyone has a chance of having their voice heard. But for you to try and do this -- incorporate participant content -- requires some structure be built around it. So I thought of a facility on Deanster which would let you elicit on-topic quotes from your userbase; there would be some administrative overhead in terms of flagging content either as worth highlighting (good) or administrative review (bad), but this won't take much time at all. 90% of it can be done by users. Here's how: 1) Most of the content will be neither worth posting on DFA or worth badgering anyone about in terms of taking it down. The process I describe here will happen less than 10% of the time. 2) Objectionable content (e.g. explicit photos, objectionable statements) can be flagged by any user and quickly addressed by the moderation staff. If you create an environment that doesn't provide an opportunity to create entropy, then it won't happen. In other words, if people don't see bogus profiles, they're far less likely to try it themselves. 3) High-quality content can also be flagged by any user (though not for themselves), and dealt with in the same fashion. 4) Volunteer moderators (trusted participants) can further vet flagged content. People will kill to have this job. They can send warning letters to objectionable content posters and give a more seasoned thumbs up to high-quality profiles. 5) Finally, one staff member can invest an hour a day selecting the best of the best and flagging them as worthy of the DFA homepage. Likewise they can take the official action of booting people who don't respond to a warning letter. At this point were talking about 1% of total posts, so it's not really a lot of overhead. Do we think this will cure a potential troll problem? IMHO, rigorous moderation is sufficient for stopping harmful BS. By giving users a flag for review button, you give them a means of doing something about trolls without feeding them. cheers -josh Politics is the art of controlling your environment. Participate! Elect Howard Dean President in 2004! http://www.outlandishjosh.com/politics/dean/
Re: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, Zephyr Teachout wrote: Sure, I think it might work. But there is a more basic role for Deanster, and the reason for its urgency (w/the idea of experimenting w/this functionality on top of it). People can't find eachother. Dean supporters in the same area can't find eachother. Dean supporters w/the same interests can't find eachother. If you take the profile module i just posted, adjust privacy settings to taste, and add some category terms for interests, you should be 3/4 of the way there, no? The only two missing pieces are (a) to hook up the taxonomy module so it can tag users as well as content nodes, and (b) to search for zipcodes by distance, but that can't be too hard, since we already have zipcode - latitude + longitude data. -- ?!ng
Re: [hackers] More on Deanster Participant Content
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 10:13:16AM -0700, Joshua Koenig wrote: The notion for this sprung from the fact that there's a wealth of ideas and content being created by the devotees of the Official Campaign Blog. Originally, I had thought of hacking Movable Type so that there would be a way for users to concur with other users' comments; to mark them as an idea, a phrase, a story worth saving. This way at the end of the day, you can have someone from your team browse through the 25 most highlighted posts. As one of the people who likes to think he at least *occasionally* posts something there that fits in this category, I'd just like to say snap/ snap/ Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] Draft Deanster Design Doc
I built this in after talking with Britt about the idea for future Howard Dean sites to include rotating volunteer statements as part of the design. That's funny, Zack and I were talking about something similar on AIM as part of the endorse module (but we kind of agreed to put it into something separate). L - Lynn Siprelle * Writer, Mother, Programmer, Fiber Artisan The New Homemaker: http://www.newhomemaker.com/ Siprelle Associates: http://www.siprelle.com/ People-Powered Howard! http://www.deanforamerica.com/
Re: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:41:44PM -0500, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: One other point about Deanster: you might get some flak from Friendster if you combine that concept with that name. The Friendster guys aren't necessarily Dean supporters. Zephyr, you might discuss with legal whether there's any exposure - obviously it's a great name but a legal hassle would make it counterproductive, I'm afraid. Do you really think so, Jon, inasmuch as they're *both* (fairly explicitly) derivative of Napster, which in itself didn't really mean anything? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
One other point about Deanster: you might get some flak from Friendster if you combine that concept with that name. The Friendster guys aren't necessarily Dean supporters. Zephyr, you might discuss with legal whether there's any exposure - obviously it's a great name but a legal hassle would make it counterproductive, I'm afraid. Surely we'll vet the name before launching. It makes a good internal name though. Pretty clear what we're all talkin' about. We should ask the friendster guys. Maybe they -are- deanies. And when it comes down to it, there are about a zillion *-ster sites out there. Just like there's also iEverything and Apple can't do much about it. But let the law-folk make the call by all means. -j
Re: [hackers] Deanster run at DFA
Just catching the tail end of this, but we're fully planning to run deanster, I've got the server space planned, and I'm looking to hire for someone to administer. So all we're doing is making sure its designed in a way we can manage. There's a lot of projects we're going to build on this, and it runs off our main database (we'll be sending out email asking folks to register additional info to fill out deanster profile). This is one that we're completely committed to -- and it would be silly to set up rival deansters off site! Except that if you run the auth, then all sites have to be approved and vetted... or have I managed to completely misunderstand this whole thread, Zack? Well, it's debatable what it means. From my perspective it would just be independent sites -- could be any site online -- deciding they can trust DFA for login data. I'll go with whatever Howard's wonks want to do. It's not a critical piece. -j
Re: [hackers] Draft Deanster Design Doc
I built this in after talking with Britt about the idea for future Howard Dean sites to include rotating volunteer statements as part of the design. That's funny, Zack and I were talking about something similar on AIM as part of the endorse module (but we kind of agreed to put it into something separate). I think it's a dynamite idea myself. Just like how if you go to theonion.com, they have a featured personal ad; this will encourage people to put their stuff out there. just my $0.02 -josh
RE: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
I don't really like deanster myself, but at least we all know what we mean :). We'll put up a naming thread later -- but keep coming up w/ideas! Z Zephyr Teachout Internet Organizing Outreach Dean for America [EMAIL PROTECTED] Meetup at http://www.deanforamerica.com/meetup Get local at http://action.deanforamerica.com Contribute at http://www.deanforamerica.com/contribute -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jay R. Ashworth Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 2:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:41:44PM -0500, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: One other point about Deanster: you might get some flak from Friendster if you combine that concept with that name. The Friendster guys aren't necessarily Dean supporters. Zephyr, you might discuss with legal whether there's any exposure - obviously it's a great name but a legal hassle would make it counterproductive, I'm afraid. Do you really think so, Jon, inasmuch as they're *both* (fairly explicitly) derivative of Napster, which in itself didn't really mean anything? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] Deanster run at DFA
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 12:50:34PM -0700, Joshua Koenig wrote: Except that if you run the auth, then all sites have to be approved and vetted... or have I managed to completely misunderstand this whole thread, Zack? Well, it's debatable what it means. From my perspective it would just be independent sites -- could be any site online -- deciding they can trust DFA for login data. I'll go with whatever Howard's wonks want to do. It's not a critical piece. Apparently I *did* misunderstand Zack; I thought he was asserting that that was the case. Rough time with English this month, I guess... :-} Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] Arrrrgggghhh! I need help...
Everything in /var/mysql is owned by user mysql with mode 660. The user table permissions are: mysql> select * from user; +---+--+--+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+---+--+---++-+++ | Host | User | Password | Select_priv | Insert_priv | Update_priv | Delete_priv | Create_priv | Drop_priv | Reload_priv | Shutdown_priv | Process_priv | File_priv | Grant_priv | References_priv | Index_priv | Alter_priv | +---+--+--+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+---+--+---++-+++ | localhost | root | | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y| Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | | blueg3| root | | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | Y| Y | Y | Y | Y | Y | | localhost | | | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N| N | N | N | N | N | | blueg3| | | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N| N | N | N | N | N | | localhost | drupal | | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N | N| N | N | N | N | N | +---+--+--+-+-+-+-+-+---+-+---+--+---++-+++ 5 rows in set (0.00 sec) On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:41 PM, Shannon Little wrote: Did all that...I think it's in permissions somewhere. How should things be set for permissions? Maybe that's where my problem is. I know how to chmod, but I'm not all that clear on how different files should be set. On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:31 PM, Mike Cohen wrote: In includes/conf.php make sure you defined the proper username password for the database: $db_url = mysql://drupal:[EMAIL PROTECTED]/drupal; Also make sure you created the database user, assigned a password to it, and granted all permissions for drupal.* to that user. On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 02:11 PM, Shannon Little wrote: Everytime I post something to the site I'm working on, I get this message: user error: Access denied for user: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' to database 'database_name' query: LOCK TABLES sequences WRITE in /home/xx/public_html/drupal/includes/database.mysql.inc on line 75. I edited the private stuff...but anyhow...could anyone advise me about how to resolve this problem? I can still post things, but everytime I do I get the error message. I've tried everything I can think of to fix it and it's just not happening for me. Thanks in advance for any help... Shannon -- To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public. --Theodore Roosevelt, 26th US President (1858-1919)
RE: [hackers] Site name considerations...
Well, I've been off at a folk music festival all weekend. (It was a great time. I'll write more about it later at http://aldon.livejournal.com), so I'm just starting to catch up on the flood of emails. I have to say, Kurt's Map is VERY COOL! I look forward to other neat stuff with it. Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Kurt Cagle Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [hackers] Site name considerations... Speaking of maps - I've been working on a quick sample map with interactivity associated with it. You'll need to download the Adobe SVG plugin (http://www.adobe.com/svg/viewer/install/beta.html) (I'll set it up later so that this could be done automatically), and then open up from my own site: http://www.metaphoricalweb.com/usaMap.svg When I'm done with it, you'll be able to upload any information into the map -- Meetup members, dollars received per state, population figures, listings of events by state, and so forth. Let me know what you thin. -- Kurt -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shannon Little Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:36 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] Site name considerations... It's a good idea to be forward thinking regarding how the name is going to sound and look when referred to on the site and by potential members. This is part of the reason I really like Dean Country. The site could have a nice flash into saying something like Now entering Dean Country and a welcome message: Welcome to Dean Country , A Dean Country Map that could be visual with an image of the US where people could click on their state to find local sites. These are just a few ideas that would fit nicely into a site theme using deancountry.
[hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at eitherhttp://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR--enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
Speaking solely from personal experience, I've had EXTREMELY good luck with Dreamhost (http://www.dreamhost.com). Great features for the price, and I got an extremely speedy response the one time I had to call customer service. They also have a fantastic control panel that lets you mess with a whole lot of stuff quite easily. Matt On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 06:02 PM, CMR wrote: We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at either http://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-->
RE: [hackers] RE: More on Deanster Participant Content
On Mon, Jul 28, 2003 at 02:41:44PM -0500, Jon Lebkowsky wrote: One other point about Deanster: you might get some flak from Friendster if you combine that concept with that name. The Friendster guys aren't necessarily Dean supporters. Zephyr, you might discuss with legal whether there's any exposure - obviously it's a great name but a legal hassle would make it counterproductive, I'm afraid. Do you really think so, Jon, inasmuch as they're *both* (fairly explicitly) derivative of Napster, which in itself didn't really mean anything? Napster was in no position to file suit! :) From what I know of Friendster, their reaction would be hard to predict, but from a biz perspective they might like the idea. We should just ask if we're going to use the name... Zephyr says probably not, so moot point, I guess. ~ Jonster
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
I currently use PSekHosting.com and they are great ... I have a 20g transfer plan for like 179/year and up 20 domains (with unlimited subdomains and 20 mySQL dbs, etc) -John John P. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org My gpg public key is available at http://www.hoke.org/pubkey.php -- Random thoughts... In my wanderings I have run across magic many times -- which simply says that I have seen wonders I could not explain. --Lazurus Long, Time Enough For Love - Howard Dean for President 2004! http://www.deanforamerica.com On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:02, CMR wrote: We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at either http://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
RE: [hackers] Fwd: User account details for joshk at Indiana for Dean
And Ryze... Who else is on Ryze? I'm ahynes1 there. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Joshua Koenig Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 7:02 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] Fwd: User account details for joshk at Indiana for Dean snip We then want to implement a mothership node which can track all the multivariate RSS feeds which are produced and be a go-to source for people looking for information on Dean, or who want to get a birds-eye view of what's going on in the Dean online universe. Think Technorati, but specifically tailored for the Dean web. We also want to implement (in close coordination with the campaign) a centralized site to organize active volunteers in a social network ala Friendster or Ryze. snip
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
Multiple MySQL DBs would be rather nice. We could easily run multiple insances of Drupal then (our site, sample site, development site, sandboxes for developers). Also what will be the file access scheme? Will multiple developers be able to change files they control around like they can on the SourceForge sandbox? -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, John P. Hoke wrote: I currently use PSekHosting.com and they are great ... I have a 20g transfer plan for like 179/year and up 20 domains (with unlimited subdomains and 20 mySQL dbs, etc) -John John P. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org My gpg public key is available at http://www.hoke.org/pubkey.php -- Random thoughts... In my wanderings I have run across magic many times -- which simply says that I have seen wonders I could not explain. --Lazurus Long, Time Enough For Love - Howard Dean for President 2004! http://www.deanforamerica.com On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:02, CMR wrote: We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at either http://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
Neil, from their end I do not think it would be a problem... I currently am the only one with login to my filesystem but I am sure somethign could be worked out with them ... they do 'bend over backwards' alot for their customers :) John P. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org My gpg public key is available at http://www.hoke.org/pubkey.php -- Random thoughts... We don't shoot cops if there is any way to avoid it. Safer to kiss a rattlesnake. --Lazurus Long, Time Enough For Love - Howard Dean for President 2004! http://www.deanforamerica.com On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 22:32, Neil Drumm wrote: Multiple MySQL DBs would be rather nice. We could easily run multiple insances of Drupal then (our site, sample site, development site, sandboxes for developers). Also what will be the file access scheme? Will multiple developers be able to change files they control around like they can on the SourceForge sandbox? -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, John P. Hoke wrote: I currently use PSekHosting.com and they are great ... I have a 20g transfer plan for like 179/year and up 20 domains (with unlimited subdomains and 20 mySQL dbs, etc) signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [hackers] PHP hosting recommendations for DeanSpace?
Dreamhost also allows multiple (unlimited, actually) MySQL databases and you can configure your own database subdomains for administration through PHPMyAdmin (e.g. drupal.deanspace.com). You can have unlimited databases up to your account space, but they do track something called conueries, which as near as I can tell is a mix of connections and queries. The cheapest account is 9.95/mo and comes with 5 million of these, to give you an idea. No, I don't work for Dreamhost or get commissions, I'm just honestly impressed with them. Matt On Monday, July 28, 2003, at 09:32 PM, Neil Drumm wrote: Multiple MySQL DBs would be rather nice. We could easily run multiple insances of Drupal then (our site, sample site, development site, sandboxes for developers). Also what will be the file access scheme? Will multiple developers be able to change files they control around like they can on the SourceForge sandbox? -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm On Mon, 28 Jul 2003, John P. Hoke wrote: I currently use PSekHosting.com and they are great ... I have a 20g transfer plan for like 179/year and up 20 domains (with unlimited subdomains and 20 mySQL dbs, etc) -John John P. Hoke [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://john.hoke.org My gpg public key is available at http://www.hoke.org/pubkey.php -- Random thoughts... In my wanderings I have run across magic many times -- which simply says that I have seen wonders I could not explain. --Lazurus Long, Time Enough For Love - Howard Dean for President 2004! http://www.deanforamerica.com On Mon, 2003-07-28 at 19:02, CMR wrote: We're ready to move on this but wanted to get everyone's input on a good php/mysql-friendly hosting outfit; we're looking at either http://www.neureal.com or http://www.ixwebhosting.com/ currently; similar deals; we figure 20 gigs transfer a mon will be plenty; good price/features/reliability/support ratio is the dream Thanks CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
[hackers] deanspace domain
I don't have a preference for .net or .org, but we have to pick one as the primary domain for people to cite. I've detected some preference for .org among others, though, so i'm going to assume we're going with that unless there is violent objection. My plan is to issue HTTP redirects from all of www.deanspace.net/(.*) web.deanspace.net/(.*) deanspace.net/(.*) www.deanspace.org/(.*) web.deanspace.org/(.*) to just deanspace.org/$1. I hope this is an acceptable plan. Good news: i have just received a reply from the owner of deanspace.com. He is willing to add a link to us from his site's front page. -- ?!ng
[hackers] Sunday IRC Meeting Notes / Transcript...
The transcript / outline of this past Sunday's IRC meeting are up on the wiki: Transcript: http://www.hack4dean.org/txt/chat7.txt Outline: http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?SeventhIrcMeeting Topic List for Sunday, July 27th IRC Meeting Zack / DFA stuff Where are we on MetaDean ? Where are we on Talent DB ? Drupal Modules RSS schema stuff Event's module and Schema Media Module and Schema Malinglists / Forum (subcription) Drupal themes and the footer DeanSpace changeover where to point the domains for now? -Zack
[hackers] Event 0.3.2 released
Fixed a couple annoying things: for events to be in the upcoming events block or feed they had to be promoted and searching events by day searched in the server's timezone, not yours. If you happen to be upgrading only event.module changed. This should be the last release before 0.4 which will have an online RSVP option which means nondestructive database changes. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] sidebar.module
Design Doc: http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?sidebar This module will enable admins to create sidebars such as those on the right side of DFA's website and share elements using RSS. Zephyr: I would like to see at least three RSS 2.0 feeds from DFA: -hot items which admins will be encouraged to automatically show (bats) -everything else which site admins can pick and choose from, new items might not auto show -DeanTeam thermometer for a single team member -and maybe some feeds with other styles or targeted subsets I will see how big of a dent in the coding I can make tonight and will post to CVS. -Neil -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] aim: ndrumm3 http://www.ews.uiuc.edu/~ndrumm
[hackers] Looking for Something more to do?
I put up a few new wiki task / pages. I also volunteered some people for them who I believe said they were interested in helping out. Here they are. Writing Installation Scripts http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?InstallationScripting Writing Documentation for Admin / Install http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?Documentation * Lynn Siprelle * [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Shannon Little * [EMAIL PROTECTED] Testing Developed Tools for Usability http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?UsabilityTesting * Richard Soderberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you want to take part in these tasts then go sign yourself up on the pages. -Zack
