[hackers] How about deancountry.com?
The name is available and I posted on the forum poll as to why I think it would be a good choice. People tend to associate web sites with .com most of all (especially the average web user) and it might be better to go for something with a .com domain. Just my two cents.
Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com?
Subject: [hackers] How about deancountry.com? The name is available and I posted on the forum poll as to why I think it would be a good choice. People tend to associate web sites with .com most of all (especially the average web user) and it might be better to go for something with a .com domain. Just my two cents. Sounds like a handle that would appeal more to dubya's crowd to me; as in y'all hippie tree-huggers from vermont ain't country! IMHO CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com?
Neither a4d, h4d (however you expand that), nor dfa are commercial; we don't *belong* in .com -- and there might be legal ramifications. Attorney: But you registered your domain name in the .com region, a region reserved for commercial entities. You dod realize that this was the implication of .com, right Yes, attorneys will do stupid things like that in court. These guys don't seem to have an issue with it: http://www.johnkerry.com/ http://www.democrats.com/ http://www.ndol.com/ CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here--
Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 01:37:22PM -0400, Zephyr Teachout wrote: Hey, no knocking country! We're not *wrong*... we're not *sorry*... and it's probably gonna happen again. :-) For names, I since we'll host the kits somewhere on DFA.com, the public name of the website service will be diff. than the name of the dev community (since my sense is that you all want to remain a loose collective doing vol work but not officially on campaign). I think that's a reasonable description of the rough concensus from last night's chat -- no doubt Zack or Josh will correct me if I'm shooting my mouth off. Here's the plan from our pov: (1) We host kit service (2) We host the deanster wannabe (talent db, as zack calls it) (3) You (dev com) host yourselves (but you're welcome to be hosted by us) (4) Groups that use the kits host themselves (and are not welcome to be hosted by us cuz then we'd have to be responsible for content, which nobody wants) The naming q could be: (a) about -you- (name of dev. Com) (b) suggestion to the campaign about kit hosting place (c) suggestion to the campaign about the suggestions to the dean community sites about how to brand Seems to me there's a conflation of a, b c -- inasmuch as they are b c, I like deanspace fwiw, but I'm not the message guru :) -- will share w/staff. Am I the conflated one, or do I have it right? Conflated? Probably not. Overly terse? Possibly. :-) And I thought *I* was Captain Jargon. There are, actually, 3 issues at hand: 1) the name of the domain/organization which hosts the development of the kit software -- currently hack4dean, though other names were proposed last night which kind of uncouple the raw development from the campaign, such as (mine :-): hack4democracy. A vocal component of the crowd frowns in hack's general direction, but I think that Americans For Dean would provide all involved who don't want to fight that battle (I explicitly do) sufficient insulation... In addition, this provides insulation against such silliness as someone deciding that donations of labor need to be figured as campaign contributions at The Going Rate -- since the software organization is explicitly not tied to the campaign, it's not even an issue. 2) the name of the organization which assists local groups -- and possibly also DFA itself -- in deploying that kit. Currently, this organization is Americans For Dean... 3) and the 'thing' it's building -- the interconnected web of Dean related sites -- has it's name up for poll as we speak; some suggestions are DeanSpace and DeanWeb. As Zack notes, consider it a brand... and remember that Tide isn't sold by Tide Corp, it comes from Proctor and Gamble. Does that clarify what (I think) the questions are? Not to mention the current approaches to answers... -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com?
That some people are morons doesn't make being a moron the right thing to do. we're agreed on the above point; we just disagree on what's right and what strategy's moronic Cheers^2 CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-- - Original Message - From: Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com? On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 11:18:45AM -0700, CMR wrote: Attorney: But you registered your domain name in the .com region, a region reserved for commercial entities. You dod realize that this was the implication of .com, right Yes, attorneys will do stupid things like that in court. These guys don't seem to have an issue with it: http://www.johnkerry.com/ http://www.democrats.com/ http://www.ndol.com/ CMR --enter gratuitous quotation that implies my profundity here-- That some people are morons doesn't make being a moron the right thing to do. This *is* all about doing the right thing, isn't it? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
Re: [hackers] How about deancountry.com?
On Thu, Jul 24, 2003 at 04:13:24PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: No that is incorrect. The name being voted on is the network name. We will decide after this what the name of the Dev Community will be. DFA will have the final say on the name for the Community Kit. ... as they market it to their campaigners. No? Cheers, -- jra -- Jay R. Ashworth[EMAIL PROTECTED] Member of the Technical Staff Baylink RFC 2100 The Suncoast Freenet The Things I Think Tampa Bay, Floridahttp://baylink.pitas.com +1 727 647 1274 OS X: Because making Unix user-friendly was easier than debugging Windows -- Simon Slavin, on a.f.c
