[hackers] Theme underway

2003-07-23 Thread lynn
I'm working on a theme called simpledean at http://www.siprelle.com/sandbox . As you can see, I don't even have all the parts where they need to go yet, but it's a start and I have to go to bed. My little girls are running wild... Lynn S.

[hackers] Presence System

2003-07-23 Thread zrosen
I don't think this will scale. If the presence information is distributed via RSS, then the nodes will have to poll each other very frequently to keep it up to date. If you're the PA node, that means you have to poll every city in the entire state of Pennsylvania every minute, or every

[hackers] Theme

2003-07-23 Thread jeff
I've got one almost done. I'm not happy with the header graphics, but they can easily be changed. You can see it here: http://stlouist.com/DeanStuff/DeanScreen.png and download it here: http://stlouist.com/DeanStuff/Dean01.tar.Z It's based on UnCoNed. JW -- jeff wiegand - electroponics,

[hackers] IRC Meeting Tommorow: 8:30 EST

2003-07-23 Thread zrosen
#hack4dean on freenode IRC this Wednesday, July 9th 8:30PM PM EST Here is a topic list - feel free to add to it http://www.hack4dean.org/phpwiki/index.php?IrcMeeting Here is a server list: niven.freenode.net tolkien.freenode.net asimov.freenode.net More info on IRC and how to connect to it is

RE: [hackers] yes Aldon, please do put it up on the wikki

2003-07-23 Thread Aldon Hynes
I have added my comments to the Wikki. Aldon -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of zrosen Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:50 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [hackers] yes Aldon, please do put it up on the wikki I put up this page as a start to

RE: [hackers] Re: Legal Issues and dodo birds

2003-07-23 Thread Jon Lebkowsky
Thing is, I recall Zack's first posts regarding this vision on the coffeehouse list. He was carrying on about decentralized organic networks and reeds law and so forth... I could hear the eyes roll. But he got my attention because I see the cosmos as an organic, adaptive, interconnected

Re: [hackers] Code, Code, Code.

2003-07-23 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 03:37:06PM -0400, Britt Blaser wrote: Why would we hinder our work by speculating on activities that our group as a whole will never pursue? My snap reaction to that is that it isn't all that useful to build a car until you have (or know you will have) roads to drive

Re: [hackers] Re: Legal Issues and dodo birds

2003-07-23 Thread Jay R. Ashworth
On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 02:43:07PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: Astute observations CMR - I don't disagree with a word you said. If we are official, then we have sold out. That being said I remain almost completly unconcerned with the problems of such a close association. All through the

Re: [hackers] Dean Media Network

2003-07-23 Thread zachary rosen
Well... I am all for starting simple, and scaling things up. But I have to say - i don't like this design much at all. We are designing this network to be distributed for a reason, now would be a good a time as any to reiterate them. * Edge to Edge principal: Distributed networks are much more

RE: [hackers] Re: Legal Issues and dodo birds

2003-07-23 Thread Aldon Hynes
A few random thoughts on this. I don't think one can really say that hack4dean has hashed this out, or that it is necessarily all that clear cut. Being a big fan of self organizing systems, it seems to me that what we have is a self organized system of hackers. Some part of the group is very

Re: [hackers] Code, Code, Code (and hosting?)

2003-07-23 Thread CMR
Absolutely my last post on this matter (no, really) 6] The business of Hosting has nothing to do with our effort. After the kit is done, anybody can do whatever they want with it. If anyone on this list wants to host the kit and make FEC filings (or not), that's their business. It is not the

Re: [hackers] Re: Legal Issues and dodo birds

2003-07-23 Thread zachary rosen
On Wed, 23 Jul 2003, Jay R. Ashworth wrote: On Wed, Jul 23, 2003 at 02:43:07PM -0500, zachary rosen wrote: Astute observations CMR - I don't disagree with a word you said. If we are official, then we have sold out. That being said I remain almost completly unconcerned with the

Re: [hackers] Re: Legal Issues and dodo birds

2003-07-23 Thread Joshua Koenig
I was under the (perhaps mis)apprehension that all this had been hashed out with the hackers, but it sounds like it may not have been. Of course it's a tough choice. You guys have two choices, really: (1) work w/the campaign (2) work outside the campaign Hmmm... I was going to respond to some of

Re: [hackers] Code, Code, Code.

2003-07-23 Thread Joshua Koenig
Britt said it much more succinctly than I did. I agree with this 100%. cheers -josh Gentlepeople, 1] We are developing a toolkit using open source tools. Free. As in speech AND beer. 2] The toolkit will include the simplest, most portable installation process we can provide. 3] Nodes built

RE: [hackers] Dean Media Network

2003-07-23 Thread Jason Webber
Zach - I think you're thinking that the DMT is going to be the central data storage site for all Dean related media; that's not really the purpose of DMT. Their entire purpose is simply to allow for seamless access to widely distributed content across all the media nodes - and at a variety of

Re: [hackers] Dean Media Network

2003-07-23 Thread Ka-Ping Yee
Well, let's see if we can reach agreement on just one key issue: Jane is attending a meetup for teachers tonight and wants to show them a video of Dean giving a speech on education issues. She wants to play it on her iMac. The meetup is in one hour. She has DSL. Where does she

RE: [hackers] Dean Media Network

2003-07-23 Thread Jason Webber
Bittorrent might be a bit above the understanding of the general user (ie, Jane). While I think the theory of Bittorent is great, the execution of it leaves something to be desired, at least at this point. ;) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf

[hackers] And now for something completely different...

2003-07-23 Thread Aldon Hynes
I'ld like to thank everyone for their work on different themes. I've loaded Dean01 and bluesky into my sandbox, along with my own theme. Feel free to come by and compare the three themes with somewhat live data. I've also set up a poll,

[hackers] p2p use for media

2003-07-23 Thread Neil Drumm
If we are going to use a p2p app for media distribution we should keep it strictly server side. Site A posts some media and as soon as sites B, C, and D decide to publish on their sites the software starts getting a local copy with bittorrent or whatever. Users of sites will see basic links as