Re: [hackers] Re: Dean, Democracy, and more (fwd)

[Joshua Koenig]

Yes. I think CC (which flavor, I'm unsure) by default. Opt out as 
needed.

-j

Hey guys - let's figure out what we want to do about CC liscensing 
soon -
Lessig has offered his staff to help us work through the issues.

I think the latest agreement i heard was an "opt out" forced CC 
liscence
in the user preferences?

What are everyones latest thoughts?

-Zack

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Date: Fri, 01 Aug 2003 08:03:38 -0700
From: Lawrence Lessig <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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     Mike Linksvayer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,
     Glenn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Laura Lynch 
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Subject: Re: Dean, Democracy, and more

If Bush vetoes, it would be wonderful. Yes, that will become a huge 
issue.
Let's only hope.

Let me know when we can talk about the uploading/embedding stuff. I'm 
cc-ing
(so to speak) the cc staff. We'd be eager to help make it simple for 
people
to choose licenses for uploads. Ideally (as in MT) by setting it in 
their
preferences.

On 7/31/03 9:12 PM, "Zack Rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Second, there are two ways to implement it. One would be for them
simply
to release plain mp3s that say they're free. But the second (better)
way
would be for them to imbed CC licenses in the MP3s. The advantage to
that > is that it has an authenticating link back page -- which could 
be
the Dean
site. So, e.g., Lyle Lovett does a Dean song. You imbed a CC license.
That > license has an authenticating link back page. That link back 
page
is Dean.
Let me know if I can help with this.
Ah yes.....  This will work nicely.  They could link to whatever
personal political message they had.  Ok, great.
The development community is moving into our new home:
http://www.deanspace.org .  Soon, when the move is complete, we are
going to try drumming up a bit of fanfare.  Campaign communities are
going to set up the first network sites these coming weeks, and 
needless
to say, we are very excited.

The Dean guest-blog thing was remarkable.  The implications for
presidential political dialogue on the internet are extremely 
exciting.

I am hearing interesting things about the net policy they are 
crafting.
If Bush really pushes for the FCC veto do you think these issues may
become significant in the next election?

-Zack

-----Original Message-----
From: Lawrence Lessig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 11:51 AM
To: zachary rosen
Subject: Re: Dean, Democracy, and more
Great to hear from you Zack.

Replies below.

On 7/29/03 8:44 AM, "zachary rosen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

Hello Larry,

A quick update: the project I talked about a few weeks ago at iLaw -
creating open source grassroots web tools for the dean campaign - is
moving along very nicely.  We have early test software running
(dean.sf.net), and the campaign headquarters are working very closely
with us. I am taking time off from my school this next year and
moving up to Burlington to work on the project as a campaign 
employee.
That's great.

Also, Joi Ito, Jay Rosen, and I are working on creating a "Emergent
Democracy" blog /community discussion group / web site / thing. We
have a
long list of people we think we can get interested in participating
including: You, Jim Moore, Doc Searls, David Weinberger, Mitch
Radcliffe,
Jon Lebkowsky, and Howard Rheingold.  We are in the early stages of
drafting up a design document for the site on a SocialText wikki. If
you're interested in helping out now, Joi can make you an account.
I'll talk to Joi about it.

I have a question for you as well.  What do you think of creating a
creative commons liscense for artists who want to free their works
from
copyright but retain *some* control over the political message it is
attached to?
It is a great idea.

First, check out
http://www.lessig.org/blog/archives/2003_07.shtml#001386
Second, there are two ways to implement it. One would be for them 
simply
to
release plain mp3s that say they're free. But the second (better) way
would
be for them to imbed CC licenses in the MP3s. The advantage to that is
that
it has an authenticating link back page -- which could be the Dean 
site.
So,
e.g., Lyle Lovett does a Dean song. You imbed a CC license. That 
license
has
an authenticating link back page. That link back page is Dean.

Let me know if I can help with this.




-Zack




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