> I can step up for a November lecture, after Moed B and Miluim.
>
> But I myself am curious, what can users do with point and click in
> Linux that they cannot do with point and click in Windows? Serious
> question.
>
Lets start a list, everyone throw what they notice once in a while:
- Pausing
On Sat, Sep 20, 2008 at 12:48 PM, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/19 Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant to say "to show them the stuff
> > that they _can_ do using point-and-click.".
> >
> > Now that it is evident that something should be do
2008/9/19 Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant to say "to show them the stuff
> that they _can_ do using point-and-click.".
>
> Now that it is evident that something should be done - it is the time
> to call the volunteers to step forward.
>
> Please do!
>
I ca
I'm sorry for the confusion. I meant to say "to show them the stuff
that they _can_ do using point-and-click.".
Now that it is evident that something should be done - it is the time
to call the volunteers to step forward.
Please do!
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 11:33 PM, Dave Roi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Hi
Since SSDL is moving to Linux, and since we want our students to feel comfort
with Linux
We are willing to help with promotion of Linux
I think (but I will have to check this) that:
1.. We can have an open day in SSDL. Students will be able to come and try
Linux on our computers. Peo
Oh god finally someone who understands...
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 20:35, Dotan Cohen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 2008/9/17 Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Showing people the stuff that they cannot do using
> > point-and-click (which today is quite a lot).
>
> Don't do that until they ask.
2008/9/17 Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Showing people the stuff that they cannot do using
> point-and-click (which today is quite a lot).
Don't do that until they ask.
People who grew up on Windows don't care how much time the cli will
save them. Just showing it to them will make them thi
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 07:01:56PM +0200, Orr Dunkelman wrote:
> I remember an insta party in Tel Aviv (Dizingof Center) that got a
> very nice PR, and 4 installations...
OK. So let's assume that this is the expected turnout of an instaparty,
and that the main issue is with support later on.
So
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:48 PM, Adir Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> By whom? By someone who says so in the forums? And what is "Linux" for that
> matter?
By ha'aretz columns that says that Linux is ready.
Because this is no longer the end of the 90's where there was one
Linux in a milli
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Adir wrote:
> > We want to:
> > 1) Show them that it's working with their computer
> live CD.
That will be a great way to help them installing that Live CD...
> 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home
> If they cannot install
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Adir wrote:
> > We want to:
> > 1) Show them that it's working with their computer
> live CD.
That will be a great way to help them installing that Live CD...
> 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home
> If they cannot install
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adir Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Every year is a new year with new people who wish to learn and get familiar
> with new things. I also don't believe that we actually organized it in such
> a great way where we can say that we can't improve it anymore.
Thi
On 9/17/08, Ohad Lutzky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Consider the climate: Linux is often touted as easy-to-install and
> easy-to-use.
>
By whom? By someone who says so in the forums? And what is "Linux" for that
matter?
Someone who heard this would not understand why he needs to carry his
> c
Adir wrote:
> We want to:
> 1) Show them that it's working with their computer
live CD.
> 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home
If they cannot install today's distro at their own, they won't be able
to handle it later at home. We are past the times of delicate
partitioning, OSS fai
First, I strongly support Tzafrir's point, which is echoed here by Adir:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Adir Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> You can add a special table for configurations. It's been done in the past.
> Most of the requests are the same. Let's call that place "Practical FAQ
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> I think a good answer to whether these are needed or not is the
> attendance in the last few ones. I haven't been to the last one (where
> Moshik Afia has arrived), but I've been to many before, and the last
> three I've attended were more
>
> One additional point - almost all of the linux adoptation I've seen in the
> Technion works like this: People see it, use it for a course, avoid it for a
> (geometrically distributed) while, then decide to install it (by themselves.
> All of the adopters I've seen are perfectly capable of perfo
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Adir Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > That's true, but if we want to make them interact with Linux more
> closely,
> > we need to show them the real option that it is installable, and the best
> > wa
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Roi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post
> > install configuration and usage instructions.
>
> I thin
Hi,
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Roi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post
> install configuration and usage instructions.
I think a good answer to whether these are needed or not is the
attendance in the last few ones.
Hi Guy,
On 9/17/08, guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04
> completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about
> usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about
> this issue on the
Hi Guy,
On 9/17/08, guy keren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04
> completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about
> usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about
> this issue on the
Hi,
I've been using 8.04 at home since it was beta and the only sound issue I
have is with Wine integration.
All the farm stations are using 8.04 and AFAIK they have no sound issues.
There were some issues in the beginning but AFAIK they were all fixed.
Anyways, Wubi alone is reason enough to choo
whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04
completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about
usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about
this issue on the various forums, at least until august (i stopped
looking, since
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> > 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what you talk in the
> lectures
> > is to let them experience it.
>
> Indeed, but today you can do it without installation. We have liveCDs,
> and in any case, the majority of the people who ar
Hi,
I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post
install configuration and usage instructions.
I suggest focusing on installing all the cool packages that are needed but
aren't installed by default like setting up the dial up connections to their
ISPs, codecs, fonts, rar,
And now answering Adir:
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Adir Abraham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party,
> sometime in November.
> The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see that it is
> not just go
Hi Everybody,
I said I'd summarize the W2L-planning meeting, and I shall "abuse"
Adir's point to report the discussions we had:
Concerning W2L - It seems that most people today heard about Linux,
and many of them have even used it for a short while. Moreover, with
today's Linux usability, we do n
Hi all,
I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party,
sometime in November.
The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see that it is
not just good in "theory".
My reasons for the need of Instaparty are:
1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what
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