Re: [Haifux] SSD and linux

2008-09-17 Thread Muli Ben-Yehuda
On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 12:31:09PM +0300, Doron Zuckerman wrote: Hi all, I have a question regarding the linux kernel (for those of you who are familiar with it). I'm looking for a way to add a change to the linux kernel in order to check if I can make it more compatible with my Asus

[Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
Hi all, I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party, sometime in November. The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see that it is not just good in theory. My reasons for the need of Instaparty are: 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Orr Dunkelman
And now answering Adir: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:42 PM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I was thinking about organizing yet another Linux Installation Party, sometime in November. The idea is to combine it with the W2L series, so people will see that it is not just good in

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Roi
Hi, I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post install configuration and usage instructions. I suggest focusing on installing all the cool packages that are needed but aren't installed by default like setting up the dial up connections to their ISPs, codecs, fonts,

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 1) Hands-on experience. The best way to show what you talk in the lectures is to let them experience it. Indeed, but today you can do it without installation. We have liveCDs, and in any case, the majority of the people who arrive to

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
Hi Guy, On 9/17/08, guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04 completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about this issue on the

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
Hi Guy, On 9/17/08, guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: whatever you do - please be careful with choosing ubuntu - version 8.04 completely broke sound support for many programs i'm talking about usability - not about politics) - and people kept asking questions about this issue on the

[Haifux] URLs re. Ruby

2008-09-17 Thread Ohad Lutzky
Here are some relevant URLs for anyone interested in Ruby: The official website, with lots of links and info: http://ruby-lang.org A fantastic (and thoroughly weird) book about ruby: http://poignantguide.net Ruby on Rails (a website framework which has brought Ruby to fame):

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Hi, On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Roi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post install configuration and usage instructions. I think a good answer to whether these are needed or not is the attendance in the last few ones. I

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Ohad Lutzky
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 5:18 PM, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Hi, On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:30 PM, Dave Roi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I believe instaparties are still needed, just with more focus on post install configuration and usage instructions. I think a good answer

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 1:37 PM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's true, but if we want to make them interact with Linux more closely, we need to show them the real option that it is installable, and the best way to show them

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Tzafrir Rehan
One additional point - almost all of the linux adoptation I've seen in the Technion works like this: People see it, use it for a course, avoid it for a (geometrically distributed) while, then decide to install it (by themselves. All of the adopters I've seen are perfectly capable of

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think a good answer to whether these are needed or not is the attendance in the last few ones. I haven't been to the last one (where Moshik Afia has arrived), but I've been to many before, and the last three I've attended were more

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Ohad Lutzky
First, I strongly support Tzafrir's point, which is echoed here by Adir: On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 7:06 PM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can add a special table for configurations. It's been done in the past. Most of the requests are the same. Let's call that place Practical FAQ :-)

[Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Orr Dunkelman
Adir wrote: We want to: 1) Show them that it's working with their computer live CD. 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home If they cannot install today's distro at their own, they won't be able to handle it later at home. We are past the times of delicate partitioning, OSS

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Ohad Lutzky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Consider the climate: Linux is often touted as easy-to-install and easy-to-use. By whom? By someone who says so in the forums? And what is Linux for that matter? Someone who heard this would not understand why he needs to carry his

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Orr Dunkelman
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Every year is a new year with new people who wish to learn and get familiar with new things. I also don't believe that we actually organized it in such a great way where we can say that we can't improve it anymore. This

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adir wrote: We want to: 1) Show them that it's working with their computer live CD. That will be a great way to help them installing that Live CD... 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home If they cannot install today's

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Adir Abraham
On 9/17/08, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Adir wrote: We want to: 1) Show them that it's working with their computer live CD. That will be a great way to help them installing that Live CD... 2) Give them a system that they can use later at home If they cannot install today's

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Dotan Cohen
2008/9/17 Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Showing people the stuff that they cannot do using point-and-click (which today is quite a lot). Don't do that until they ask. People who grew up on Windows don't care how much time the cli will save them. Just showing it to them will make them think

Re: [Haifux] W2L + Installation party?

2008-09-17 Thread Dave Roi
Oh god finally someone who understands... On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 20:35, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/17 Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Showing people the stuff that they cannot do using point-and-click (which today is quite a lot). Don't do that until they ask. People