Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
Dear All, For future reference: In case the desk with the projector equipment is locked, please go to the second floor, to room 203 (Alex Ratinzki's room), and ask Moti (who sits there) to open the projector at room 6. As for the organizers, we have other commitments, and we cannot arrive to all meetings, but usually there is at least one person in the audience who has the key (or knows Moti). As for your talk, we will exchange phone numbers offlist. Best regards, Orr. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote: Hey everyone, and especially the administrators, I was just at Roy's talk at Haifux. None of the group's organizers came-- We had no one to unlock the projector for us. Since we couldn't use the projector, we all had to sit huddled in front of Roy's laptop while he gave the talk. Fortunately the lecture was interesting and I enjoyed it, despite of the conditions. But this is pretty unprofessional. I've scheduled to give a talk in Haifux in July, and I intend to put considerable effort into preparing this talk, and it will be a bummer if I came all prepared and there wouldn't be a person to open the projector. So what's up with that? Why did none of the organizers come to open the projector? Ram Rachum. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
Thanks for the info Orr. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:52 PM, Orr Dunkelman orr.dunkel...@gmail.comwrote: Dear All, For future reference: In case the desk with the projector equipment is locked, please go to the second floor, to room 203 (Alex Ratinzki's room), and ask Moti (who sits there) to open the projector at room 6. As for the organizers, we have other commitments, and we cannot arrive to all meetings, but usually there is at least one person in the audience who has the key (or knows Moti). As for your talk, we will exchange phone numbers offlist. Best regards, Orr. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote: Hey everyone, and especially the administrators, I was just at Roy's talk at Haifux. None of the group's organizers came-- We had no one to unlock the projector for us. Since we couldn't use the projector, we all had to sit huddled in front of Roy's laptop while he gave the talk. Fortunately the lecture was interesting and I enjoyed it, despite of the conditions. But this is pretty unprofessional. I've scheduled to give a talk in Haifux in July, and I intend to put considerable effort into preparing this talk, and it will be a bummer if I came all prepared and there wouldn't be a person to open the projector. So what's up with that? Why did none of the organizers come to open the projector? Ram Rachum. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) -- Sincerely, Ram Rachum ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
hi orr, it will be a good idea to add this info to lecture announcements - in case this happens again in the future - as well of adding it to haifux.org (not just on haifux - people won't necessarily remember that it is written there when this problem happens again in a year from now). thanks, --guy Orr Dunkelman wrote: Dear All, For future reference: In case the desk with the projector equipment is locked, please go to the second floor, to room 203 (Alex Ratinzki's room), and ask Moti (who sits there) to open the projector at room 6. As for the organizers, we have other commitments, and we cannot arrive to all meetings, but usually there is at least one person in the audience who has the key (or knows Moti). As for your talk, we will exchange phone numbers offlist. Best regards, Orr. On Mon, May 10, 2010 at 9:14 PM, cool-RR cool...@cool-rr.com wrote: Hey everyone, and especially the administrators, I was just at Roy's talk at Haifux. None of the group's organizers came-- We had no one to unlock the projector for us. Since we couldn't use the projector, we all had to sit huddled in front of Roy's laptop while he gave the talk. Fortunately the lecture was interesting and I enjoyed it, despite of the conditions. But this is pretty unprofessional. I've scheduled to give a talk in Haifux in July, and I intend to put considerable effort into preparing this talk, and it will be a bummer if I came all prepared and there wouldn't be a person to open the projector. So what's up with that? Why did none of the organizers come to open the projector? Ram Rachum. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
Hello all, Indeed, I intended to arrive, and I have even had a key during the last two semesters (but not before that - we managed without for years, as explained before). However, I was unable to come on the last minute. I am sorry there was nobody there who knew Moti should be contacted. This indeed will be fixed in the future as a part of the regular lecturer-inviting protocol. Orna. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: Hello, Since I've been seen presenting the speaker in some talks, and sometimes even made sure the projector is available (even though I don't have the key myself), and I sometimes announce lectures, I suppose some people will consider myself as an organizer. But the truth is, that Haifux has been running for quote a few years without appointing anyone to organize the event. Exactly as in the free software world, the slots have been filled by whoever was there to fill them. I'm sorry to hear about today's mishap. It's a truly rare event, and it looks like the shortcircuit lies somewhere between myself and Orna. Personally, I had other things on my mind, and I actually wasn't aware that anything was planned for today. One lesson to learn is that a lecture announced on the same day is a bad omen. A second bad omen is when you're going to give a lecture, and you have no phone number whatsoever to call in case something goes wrong (stuck on the road, for example). It's actually true for any kind of appointment one makes. Please keep in mind that the only dedicated staff in any lecture, is the speaker himself (or herself). Arriving at a lecture expecting that everything has been fixed by just somebody is a bit of a gambling. It works almost always, but this time, it just didn't. And allow me to say, as someone who has delivered professional courses, that the same rule applies in the real world. Having said all this, I'd still like to apologize for the inconvenience. The few of us involved will make sure this will not happen again. Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Where were the organizers?
I think a good idea is to set up a chain of command as people do in the armies. It is also a good thing from organizational perspective. This chain of command should work with the faculty people (Moti or Alex or whoever), and not every willing lecturer. If the obliged representative is not able to arrive they *has to* ping the next in the chain, to at least make sure the door is open and for *the right* people (there are also some faculty security aspects - equipment had been stolen in the past) of course: IMHO. Regards. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 6:36 AM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: Hello all, Indeed, I intended to arrive, and I have even had a key during the last two semesters (but not before that - we managed without for years, as explained before). However, I was unable to come on the last minute. I am sorry there was nobody there who knew Moti should be contacted. This indeed will be fixed in the future as a part of the regular lecturer-inviting protocol. Orna. On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 4:45 AM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: Hello, Since I've been seen presenting the speaker in some talks, and sometimes even made sure the projector is available (even though I don't have the key myself), and I sometimes announce lectures, I suppose some people will consider myself as an organizer. But the truth is, that Haifux has been running for quote a few years without appointing anyone to organize the event. Exactly as in the free software world, the slots have been filled by whoever was there to fill them. I'm sorry to hear about today's mishap. It's a truly rare event, and it looks like the shortcircuit lies somewhere between myself and Orna. Personally, I had other things on my mind, and I actually wasn't aware that anything was planned for today. One lesson to learn is that a lecture announced on the same day is a bad omen. A second bad omen is when you're going to give a lecture, and you have no phone number whatsoever to call in case something goes wrong (stuck on the road, for example). It's actually true for any kind of appointment one makes. Please keep in mind that the only dedicated staff in any lecture, is the speaker himself (or herself). Arriving at a lecture expecting that everything has been fixed by just somebody is a bit of a gambling. It works almost always, but this time, it just didn't. And allow me to say, as someone who has delivered professional courses, that the same rule applies in the real world. Having said all this, I'd still like to apologize for the inconvenience. The few of us involved will make sure this will not happen again. Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Maxim Kovgan ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
