[Haifux] Fwd: Schedule of the lectures at august Penguin
Hello The link of the scheduled lectures at the august penguin conference can be found at: http://august.penguin.org.il/AP2013_Schedule.pdf Sorana ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] mailing list to facebook
and what about those who don't facebook? On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 1:12 PM, Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda ladyp...@gmail.comwrote: Hello Haifuxers, During the past months several Haifuxers joined the Haifux group on facebook. I was wondering if it was possible to connect the mailing list and the group page, such that messages from the mailing list will appear on facebook, to connect the populations. Thanks Orna -- Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda. http://ladypine.org ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Flash Friendly File System (F2FS) - Leon Romanovsky
Yes, I recorded it. On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 9:08 AM, Leon Romanovsky l...@leon.nu wrote: On Mon, Feb 11, 2013 at 11:54 PM, Michael Vasiliev mycr...@infoscav.netwrote: On Saturday 09 February 2013 18:21:35 Eli Billauer wrote: On Monday, February 11th at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Leon Romanovsky: Flash Friendly File System (F2FS) Has anyone recorded this one? For some reason, I thought it will be next week. No one, but I'll upload slides to the Haifux site. -- MV ___ Linux-il mailing list linux...@cs.huji.ac.il http://mailman.cs.huji.ac.il/mailman/listinfo/linux-il -- Leon Romanovsky | Independent Linux Consultant www.leon.nu | l...@leon.nu ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Recording the Bitcoin lecture
If I will be able to attend,I can record audio On Fri, Feb 1, 2013 at 1:07 PM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: ** Hi all, Is there anyone willing to record the Bitcoins lecture this Monday? http://haifux.org/lectures/292/ (Ah, and there are slides already...) Video is preferred, by audio is fine as well. Who's bringing the stuff? Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX LECTURE] Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks -- Eli Billauer
Whats in that executable, you can add the utility strings. strings filename. wget, if you can give more complex flags like how to overcome cookies, it will be nice. ltrace is also useful (library trace) On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 6:01 PM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: On Monday, January 21st at 18:30, Haifux will gather to hear a talk by Eli Billauer: Command-line utilities: Tips and tricks Abstract Command-line utilities is the real power of a Linux computer, and yet there's always a few useful utilities that even an experienced Linux user doesn't know about. This meeting is dedicated to going through several random utilities, some of which are less known, others are known but have surprising possibilities. The range goes from things as simple as using touch to fake a modification date to using ssh for surfing the web (with your browser) as if your computer was in another country. No previous knowledge is required. Even though newbies will gain the most of this meeting, there is also room for those more familiar with the shell prompt. Those who want to take the stand for a few minutes to talk about a utility are welcome, of course. There will be no slides during this meetings, just a shell window for demonstrations. This is a list of topics that may or may not be covered, depending on interest and what time allows. Some will be mentioned in a few words, and we may spend some time with others. * find that file with complex criteria and output formatting: find * Run a quick script: perl -e and perl -pi -e * Resize (or create) a file: truncate * Fake a file's modification time: touch * Quick binary dump: hexdump -C * What's in that executable? ldd / objdump (disassembly) * Create a custom timestamp: date (with formatting) * Fetch that file from www: wget * Internet plumbing: nc / redirecting to /dev/tcp * Using ssh for port forwaring (fake your world position) * Check that you're not running out of inodes: du -i * Check up your processes: ps aux / pstree * Who's opening which files? lsof / strace * What ports are open? netstat -a -n * Munching a lot of text: cat / tac/ head / tail -f / sort / sort -n (together with du -s) * What's that file? file / identify / stat + perl's stat * Mounting an file image: fdisk -fu / mount -o loop * Convert PS to PDF: ps2pdf * pulseaudio utils: pulseaudio -k / -D + pacmd * Zenity: Plain GUI from the command line * Restore screen settings (set by mplayer): xvattr * Open a GUI explorer on the current directory: nautilus * View images on the current directory: gthumb = We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! == Future lectures: 04/02/13 Bitcoin: Meni Rosenfeld == We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at webmas...@haifux.org -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://haifux.org/mailman/listinfo/haifux
[Haifux] perl lectures links
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[Haifux] 2nd part of opencl lecture
Below is the link for the 2nd part of opencl lecture from 28/11/2011. http://www.sendspace.com/file/v5ulow The first part can be found here: http://www.sendspace.com/file/dh4y0a ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Tentative lecture proposal
I am interested. On Sat, Aug 13, 2011 at 11:04 PM, Shachar Shemesh shac...@shemesh.bizwrote: I would like to provide a tentative proposal for a lecture. Tentative means that I'd love to give the lecture, but cannot, yet, say whether I'll have the time to. The lecture is the same one I gave at AP2011, about the birth of SI1452 (the Hebrew keyboard layout), but with enough time to actually discuss the things I wanted to, i.e. - why things changed they way they did, what compromises were done, and why. What the dynamic of a standard committee actually is. Any buyers? Shachar -- Shachar Shemesh Lingnu Open Source Consulting Ltd. http://www.lingnu.com ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] lecture (series) proposal: the story of alice and bob - the I/O requests
+1 On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 2:59 AM, c...@actcom.co.il wrote: In this story, we'll follow the life story of alice - a file-systemized I/O request, and bob - a raw-device I/O request, from their birth, until they reach heaven (the disk or the USB camera or...). In addition, we will cover some system parameters that affect I/O requests, the buffer cache, disk I/O schedulers and tools used to track and count I/O (including - why is process-based I/O accounting so tricky). i didn't even write down the table of contents yet (with my poor PC's untimely crippledness) - but i imagine 2 meetings may be needed to cover this. any takers? anyone already has all the needed material (lack of such material was the initial trigger for this proposal)? --guy ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Router question
Speaking of virus filtering they catch 2 birds in one hit. 1. They can block other things on the way with this. 2. You pay for this virus filtering. So, don't forget to reduce the price of the internet if you have this virus filtering. If you get the bezeq parrot jumping when you try to enter some sites that they consider dangerous (like warez sites or other) this parrot jumps on your screen. On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:18 PM, Ariel Haviv ariel.ha...@gmail.com wrote: Hi there, I had a similar problem a couple of months ago with Bezeqint (regarding ports of stock market trading software). Check with them that your account doesn't have any automatic Benefits from the ISP - e.g. Virus filtering or such. As soon as I asked them to remove any of those so-called benefits from my account, all the problems were gone. (My assumption was they were probably routing traffic through those nasty service providers like the Italian one you mentioned) Hope that helps, for what it's worth. Best regards, Ariel Haviv On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 3:03 PM, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net wrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 2:36 PM, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.ilwrote: On Mon, Oct 18, 2010 at 02:23:46PM +0200, Ohad Lutzky wrote: What do you guys think about this issue? I want to say that it's pressing, but: 1. This is the only remaining problematic protocol for me. SSH works perfectly, and git works just as well over HTTP nowadays, if I'm not mistaken. 2. It seems unnecessary, in my opinion, for this protocol to exist - it should just be done over HTTP. Surely not. A different protocol makes it easy for the provider to treat this protocol differently. All the more reason to do it over HT... oh, I see what you did there. -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Router question
Hi Ohad I ran a whois on 77.67.66.9. It turns out that it belongs to Tiscali network. They are very notorious in traffic shaping. They use to work with 012. I didn't know that bezeqint works with them too. I used to have tons of problems when I had internet with 012. If you can avoid traffic through them, do that. Otherwise, I don't know what can be done. Maybe other have a better idea. i ran too tcptraceroute to the same ip as yours. here is the output about tiscali from here (I skipped the first 10 hops): 11 77.67.66.9 65.208 ms 64.018 ms 67.894 ms 12 89.149.187.210 89.924 ms 98.971 ms 88.379 ms 13 194.50.100.190 158.058 ms 163.518 ms 172.186 ms 14 * * * 15 195.113.69.57 176.454 ms 183.741 ms 182.775 ms 16 195.113.68.150 100.259 ms 98.225 ms 99.370 ms 17 195.113.68.198 98.377 ms 99.620 ms 102.622 ms 18 195.113.69.170 179.713 ms 178.286 ms 179.791 ms 19 195.113.69.6 174.207 ms 175.161 ms 170.599 ms 20 195.113.19.83 [open] 219.739 ms 237.707 ms 222.181 ms On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net wrote: Okay, that's something I can use! Here's what I get - all hope up to and including 7 are from within bezeqint (without useful reverse dns resolutions). Hop 8 is sudo tcptraceroute -i eth0 -n 195.113.19.83 11371 traceroute to 195.113.19.83 (195.113.19.83), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 10.0.0.138 4.018 ms 4.000 ms 3.993 ms 2 212.179.37.1 20.982 ms 22.589 ms 22.581 ms 3 212.179.87.173 24.302 ms 27.114 ms 28.475 ms 4 212.179.152.157 29.563 ms 30.513 ms 31.462 ms 5 212.179.124.145 37.292 ms 37.288 ms 37.274 ms 6 212.179.124.162 40.561 ms 51.928 ms 54.370 ms 7 62.219.189.14 4317.354 ms 212.179.124.26 4303.544 ms 4301.958 ms 8 77.67.66.9 199.620 ms * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: you should have a traceroute-line utility that runs on TCP ports of your choice. for example, tcptraceroute. see an explanation here: http://christophe.vandeplas.com/2007/11/04/using-traceroute-icmp-and-tcp --guy Ohad Lutzky wrote: traceroute is ICMP. I'm having trouble with specific ports on TCP. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com mailto: david...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try running traceroute to the pgp server or android market server? See how many hops it does go and see in which one it gets stuck. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 19:36, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net mailto:o...@lutzky.net wrote: Hello everyone, I have a Linksys DSL-2760u router/DSL modem, using a Wow (Bezeq) connection to the Bezeq International ISP. It seems that various outgoing ports are blocked - HTTP, HTTPS, bittorrent and SSH work well enough, but - for example - I can't download Android apps from the Market. Easier to test, I can't download PGP public keys. For example: gpg -v -v --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net --recv F120156012B83718 gpg: requesting key 12B83718 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net This hangs indefinitely. So does this: telnet subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net 11371 Trying 195.113.19.83... The same occurs for other keyservers, git-protocol, and various other unconventional high-port usage. I've gone over the router settings, disabled its firewall (but not NAT, which I need), added my machine to the DMZ (this actually seems to help, sometimes, for git - and even then, only once), tried port triggering... I can't get a consistent result. I should note that this issue only exists for *outgoing* ports. I have no problem mapping *incoming* ports (such as my openssh server or bittorrent web interface). -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org mailto:Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux --
Re: [Haifux] Router question
forgot to mention, i use bezeqint too. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Ohad I ran a whois on 77.67.66.9. It turns out that it belongs to Tiscali network. They are very notorious in traffic shaping. They use to work with 012. I didn't know that bezeqint works with them too. I used to have tons of problems when I had internet with 012. If you can avoid traffic through them, do that. Otherwise, I don't know what can be done. Maybe other have a better idea. i ran too tcptraceroute to the same ip as yours. here is the output about tiscali from here (I skipped the first 10 hops): 11 77.67.66.9 65.208 ms 64.018 ms 67.894 ms 12 89.149.187.210 89.924 ms 98.971 ms 88.379 ms 13 194.50.100.190 158.058 ms 163.518 ms 172.186 ms 14 * * * 15 195.113.69.57 176.454 ms 183.741 ms 182.775 ms 16 195.113.68.150 100.259 ms 98.225 ms 99.370 ms 17 195.113.68.198 98.377 ms 99.620 ms 102.622 ms 18 195.113.69.170 179.713 ms 178.286 ms 179.791 ms 19 195.113.69.6 174.207 ms 175.161 ms 170.599 ms 20 195.113.19.83 [open] 219.739 ms 237.707 ms 222.181 ms On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 9:11 PM, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net wrote: Okay, that's something I can use! Here's what I get - all hope up to and including 7 are from within bezeqint (without useful reverse dns resolutions). Hop 8 is sudo tcptraceroute -i eth0 -n 195.113.19.83 11371 traceroute to 195.113.19.83 (195.113.19.83), 30 hops max, 60 byte packets 1 10.0.0.138 4.018 ms 4.000 ms 3.993 ms 2 212.179.37.1 20.982 ms 22.589 ms 22.581 ms 3 212.179.87.173 24.302 ms 27.114 ms 28.475 ms 4 212.179.152.157 29.563 ms 30.513 ms 31.462 ms 5 212.179.124.145 37.292 ms 37.288 ms 37.274 ms 6 212.179.124.162 40.561 ms 51.928 ms 54.370 ms 7 62.219.189.14 4317.354 ms 212.179.124.26 4303.544 ms 4301.958 ms 8 77.67.66.9 199.620 ms * * 9 * * * 10 * * * 11 * * * 12 * * * 13 * * * 14 * * * 15 * * * 16 * * * 17 * * * 18 * * * 19 * * * 20 * * * 21 * * * 22 * * * 23 * * * 24 * * * 25 * * * 26 * * * 27 * * * 28 * * * 29 * * * 30 * * * On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 8:48 PM, guy keren c...@actcom.co.il wrote: you should have a traceroute-line utility that runs on TCP ports of your choice. for example, tcptraceroute. see an explanation here: http://christophe.vandeplas.com/2007/11/04/using-traceroute-icmp-and-tcp --guy Ohad Lutzky wrote: traceroute is ICMP. I'm having trouble with specific ports on TCP. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 7:53 PM, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com mailto: david...@gmail.com wrote: Did you try running traceroute to the pgp server or android market server? See how many hops it does go and see in which one it gets stuck. On Sat, Oct 16, 2010 at 19:36, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net mailto:o...@lutzky.net wrote: Hello everyone, I have a Linksys DSL-2760u router/DSL modem, using a Wow (Bezeq) connection to the Bezeq International ISP. It seems that various outgoing ports are blocked - HTTP, HTTPS, bittorrent and SSH work well enough, but - for example - I can't download Android apps from the Market. Easier to test, I can't download PGP public keys. For example: gpg -v -v --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net --recv F120156012B83718 gpg: requesting key 12B83718 from hkp server subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net This hangs indefinitely. So does this: telnet subkeys.pgp.net http://subkeys.pgp.net 11371 Trying 195.113.19.83... The same occurs for other keyservers, git-protocol, and various other unconventional high-port usage. I've gone over the router settings, disabled its firewall (but not NAT, which I need), added my machine to the DMZ (this actually seems to help, sometimes, for git - and even then, only once), tried port triggering... I can't get a consistent result. I should note that this issue only exists for *outgoing* ports. I have no problem mapping *incoming* ports (such as my openssh server or bittorrent web interface). -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org mailto:Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky
Re: [Haifux] Lecture about valgrind
count me in too On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 10:51 AM, Shachar Raindel shach...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, I have been fiddling with the insides of valgrind lately, and thought that other club members might also be interested to hear about how it works under the hood. For these of you who haven't heard of valgrind yet, it is a dynamic binary translator, which pin-points common memory-related problems (most of the buffer overflows, using freed memory block, double free, using uninitialized variables, memory leaks, etc.). If there is enough interest, I will probably be able to get a few slides together and talk about it for a bit (read - 2 hours). --Shachar ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] QEMU/KVM vs. VMWare: The beauty and the beast
the only drawback of virtualbox open source is that it doesn't allow to attach a usb. The binary version allows that. On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 12:01 AM, boazg boaz.ge...@gmail.com wrote: have you tried virtualbox? it's GPL, and i've had some good experience with it. On Sun, Jan 10, 2010 at 21:06, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: Hello, I've been playing around with my new Fedora 12 computer (Intel i7 quad core) for a few days, mainly for the purpose of making educated decisions about how to virtualize two old computers, which I want to get rid of. They are running Windows 2000 and Redhat 7.3. I only tested the Windows part (Linux should be much easier). Fedora 12 is the host, of course. I've looked at QEMU/KVM vs. VMWare. I want to share my experiences and insights with you, because I don't like the bottom line, which is the VMWare is better for almost all home purposes (I'm not talking about cloud servers and such). Which makes me wonder: Is VMWare a honey trap, or is it currently the preferred choice? In case you wondered, both tools can run simultaneously on the same computer, seemingly without disturbing each other. It looks like I'm going to take advantage of this. I ran VMPlayer (free as in beer version) with VMTools in the Windows guest machine. I take it that their licenses don't limit me in time nor the number of guests I can run simultaneously. Please do correct me if I'm wrong on this. The concept is to copy these machines' disks as image files, and then seamlessly go on working as if nothing happened. The most important issue for me is that after the transition I can go on doing everything I did before (including using electronic development hardware through USB). I should mention, that both tool's documented and encouraged flow is to install a new operating system from scratch on a blank (virtualized) disk, and not run a previously installed one. Indeed, a preinstalled XP image tends to give me the blue screen. The Windows 2000 image runs beautifully. QEMU/KVM Pros * Free (as in freedom) * Allows incremental images (good for running possibly malicious software) * Can be run from the command line, and is generally script friendly. * Appears to be more secure (SELinux is all over) * Display on VNC allows remote access to guest QEMU/KVM Cons: * Doesn't currently have an EHCI driver (and hence guest sees only USB 1.1, not 2.0) * Didn't manage to attach a USB device I need for electronics development (Xilinx programming cable). * Has Windows paravirtualization drivers for network card only. Display is slow. * Using the mouse is annoying (poor tracking, clicks are sometimes missed). VMPlayer Pros: * VMTools offers a nice set of paravirtual drivers * Very good emulation of graphics card (through paravirtual driver). Feels like a real computer, it's possible to play movies. The guest's desktop size is dynamically adjusted to the virtual machine's window size, which is pretty convenient. * Very good handling of USB hotplugging. Needless to say, it handled my special piece of hardware seemlessly. * Easy to feel with mouse. VMPlayer Cons: * Feels like it was designed for Windows host. If you can't do it through GUI, you can't do it at all (?) * Everything about their website says we'll give you this for free (if you manage to find it), but you really want our million dollar version So this is my grim bottom line: I don't like the music I get from VMWare, but VMPlayer does the job, and QEMU is almost there. But almost is not enough when you want something to work. Remember that I'm the one who wants his computer working, first and foremost? Your information, comments and insights are mostly welcome. Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Ted Turner http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/t/ted_turner.html - Sports is like a war without the killing. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] reading electric current registers on CPU
there is a kernel parameter that sets lm_sensors. Is it enabled?
check
grep -i sensors /usr/src/linux/.config
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mark Silberstein
ma...@cs.technion.ac.ilwrote:
Friends, thanks for all the ideas - none have worked in the meantime.
+mA query is nice, but still not too helpful
+powertop doesn't have any output that shows CPU power other than for
laptops battery
+/proc/acpi does not expose the current /power registers..
Any other ideas?
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Maxim Kovgan kovg...@gmail.com wrote:
is analyzing:
/proc/acpi/CPU0/power
/proc/acpi/CPU1/power
...
/proc/acpi/CPU${N}/power
good for you ?
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Mark Silberstein
ma...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote:
Friends,
I'm trying to find the way for the user-level program to read the
electric current sensor of a CPU to compute its power consumption (given
vCore it should be easy). I'm trying to use lm_sensors, which actually
mention the support of this kind of info, but I can't seem to have the
kernel module which exposes it to lm_sensors and does the trick.
Googling is not that useful for the query reading CPU current register
brings up tons of info with current in the sense of momentarily, rather
than electric current. ...
Any idea ?
Mark
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Re: [Haifux] reading electric current registers on CPU
acpi isn't so succesfull. I wouldn't count too much on it. I had serious
problems once with acpi and temperature. It doesn't measure correctly the
temperature and the laptop didn't boot because it thought the temperature is
too high. So I disabled some features of acpi in the kernel.
acpi needs re-writing.
is i2c enabled?
the sensors of your hardware are detected? use sensors-detect command.
the command sensors should work.
There is another tool called gkrellm. I never used this, so I can't tell too
much.
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/billw/gkrellm/gkrellm.html
besides the kernel, the motherboard should support as well (see in the link
above).
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 4:27 PM, Mark Silberstein
ma...@cs.technion.ac.ilwrote:
All of them are compiled as modules. The question is whether this kernel
version ( 2.6.30.9-96.fc11.i686.PA ) supports this type of info
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 2:29 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote:
there is a kernel parameter that sets lm_sensors. Is it enabled?
check
grep -i sensors /usr/src/linux/.config
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:56 PM, Mark Silberstein
ma...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote:
Friends, thanks for all the ideas - none have worked in the meantime.
+mA query is nice, but still not too helpful
+powertop doesn't have any output that shows CPU power other than for
laptops battery
+/proc/acpi does not expose the current /power registers..
Any other ideas?
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 12:47 PM, Maxim Kovgan kovg...@gmail.comwrote:
is analyzing:
/proc/acpi/CPU0/power
/proc/acpi/CPU1/power
...
/proc/acpi/CPU${N}/power
good for you ?
On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 9:15 AM, Mark Silberstein
ma...@cs.technion.ac.il wrote:
Friends,
I'm trying to find the way for the user-level program to read the
electric current sensor of a CPU to compute its power consumption (given
vCore it should be easy). I'm trying to use lm_sensors, which actually
mention the support of this kind of info, but I can't seem to have the
kernel module which exposes it to lm_sensors and does the trick.
Googling is not that useful for the query reading CPU current
register brings up tons of info with current in the sense of
momentarily, rather than electric current. ...
Any idea ?
Mark
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Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: The other side of the coin is that the purpose of the W2L from Haifux's point of view is PR for Haifux itself, making the experience more enjoyable to us all, by injecting new blood of speakers and listeners. Users who care for the Windows experience are not likely to be any of those. Don't know much about the PR, but please be advised that the two main complaints on Linux I saw were: (a) We cannot use office. (b) We cannot run Video players in double speed to listen to lectures. To (a) the answer should be - you do not have to use office for any of the courses taught in the lab. (b) ??? Does any one know how to fix it Also, Shahar, the lab engineer, has Linux on a USB, that he can give out to students, who wants to use it portably. Please mention this. Take care. Yg., 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Are they allowed to download it at all? VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? They are audio and video files hosted on the Technion's MMS server. The files are not stored locally, they are streamed over the network. Downloading them for local play is not feasible as the files are hundreds of megabytes in size and stream in realtime. That means that downloading a 60 minute lecture takes 60 minutes. Although the lectures can be played at high speed, they cannot be downloaded as such. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? They are audio and video files hosted on the Technion's MMS server. The files are not stored locally, they are streamed over the network. Downloading them for local play is not feasible as the files are hundreds of megabytes in size and stream in realtime. That means that downloading a 60 minute lecture takes 60 minutes. Although the lectures can be played at high speed, they cannot be downloaded as such. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
The question is if x1.6 works ok and there is no problem of synchronization between audio and video. Did you try this on linux with vlc? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Sorry, I didn't notice that you mentioned it doesn't work with vlc. Can you try with newer vlc and see if it works at least in the streaming with faster play. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: The question is if x1.6 works ok and there is no problem of synchronization between audio and video. Did you try this on linux with vlc? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] TODA!!
you are welcome. On Thu, Jun 11, 2009 at 8:40 PM, zohar shemesh zoharshem...@gmail.comwrote: TODA! TODA! TODA! this email is been send from my new up and running Mandriva! again thank you all who took the time to listen to me wine, and especially thank you Sorana, fore you time and effort and that you understood that i actually need someone too do it for me... TODA TODA, zohar ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Who will come to a lecture about profile guided optimization in GCC?
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Re: [Haifux] Technion's PDP-11 Simulator
You can take the executable, put it in a debugger and use where. Hope this helps a little. 2009/3/30 Amir Hardon ahar...@gmail.com Hi, I'm a second semester CS student at the Technion taking the ATAM (Computer Organization and Programming) course. In this course we use a PDP-11 simulator which was developed in the Technion. I tried launching it with wine, and it crashes when loading a program. I wrote a mail to the teaching assistant in charge explaining the situation and asking for the source code of the simulator, to see if I can find out why does it crashes, or maybe trying to compile it on Linux (it looks like a not too os-dependent console program). I got a polite negative answer saying This has to be passed through many channels before approving. I thought that maybe someone here can help somehow... Thanks! ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Student complaints.
2009/1/26 Amir Hardon ahar...@gmail.com Hi, First I'll state that I'm a first year student here. About the problems the students mention, it seems like the only real problem is MS Office compatibility, I am struggling with this problem daily from the other side - often Word documents that are sent to me are getting scrambled when opened with Open Office. My last resort for such cases is using one of the freely available web based doc2pdf converters. I can tell you from my experience, that I write documents at home on Open Office, save them as Microsoft word xp doc format and it works very well on Windows when I want to view, edit, print. I tried few times vice versa without any problems as well. In open office you have the option to export it as pdf as well. I believe that power point should be the same. Unless we are talking about changing to hebrew, which is more messy. Although I must say that I don't have problems with MS Office users that can't read my Open Office generated files. Anyway maybe you should consider using MS Office with wine\crossover-office (I never used it personally but I guess it should be good) About Firefox hangs on heavy flash sites - usually the heavy flash stuff is just ads, and installing Adblocker Plus make those sites fly. It is really weird to hear that FF crashes on Trac, which generates pretty light pages. (I would guess another tab with ynet was opened at the same time (-: ). This happens for each one. Adblocker plus indeed solves the problem. There are other flash blockers as well. -Amir. 2009/1/26 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com Folks, here is the list of the unedited gripe list of students. As you will see, some of the problems are educational (MS WORD is sexy), other are organizational (not enough quota), while others are technical (Eclipse crashes). I am asking for your help mainly in dealing with the psychological issues... Make it easier and more exciting for the students to work with Linux. פרויקט שנתי בהנדסת תוכנה *Students' feedback on 'working in SSDL' – January 2009* *משוב בנושא העבודה במעבדה* הנושאים היחידים אליהם אתייחס הם נושאי לינוקס. במשך שנתיים אני נמצאת במעבדה כמעט כל יום, כל היום (פרט לזמן בו אני נמצאת בהרצאות) ואין לי תלונות פרט לתלונות שאציג על החלפת ה windows ל linux. - ספציפית לגבי הפרויקט בשבוע האחרון קרו לנו פעמים תקלות בהעברת קבצים ממחשבי המעבדה הביתה. לכולנו יש בבית מחשבי windows וכאשר תכננו משימות לשבוע במחשבי המעבדה בהעברה למחשבים בבית פעמיים היו בעיות התאמת פורמט ומישהו היה צריך להגיע לטכניון (למחשבי linux) כדי לטפל בבעיה לאפשר לקבוצה להמשיך לעבוד בבית. - בכל פעם שעלינו להכין מצגת או גרפים אנו עוברים למחשב שאינו במעבדה בגלל שאנו רגילים לעבוד ב windows ועבודה בו חוסכת לנו זמן. הפרויקט דורש הכנת מצגות רבות במהלכו ולכן נראה לי שהמעבדה שאחת ממטרותיה היא לשרת אותו אמורה לספק כלים נוחים להכנת מצגות וגרפים. - לא פעם קרו לנו תקלות במעבר בין linux ל windows ולהיפך עקב ניסיון לעבוד בבית ובמעבדה. בעיות אלו בזבזו זמן שלא היה מתבזבז אם בשני המקומות היינו עובדים באותה סביבה. - לא פעם היו ל linux תקלות מוזרות שגרמו לסגירת סביבת עבודה ללא שמירה בצורה פתאומית בעת לחיצה על minimize. תקלה אחרת מתלוננת על סביבת עבודה פתוחה במקום אחר (כאשר היא לא) ובכך מונעת עבודה באותה סביבה. - ל linux יש נטיה לא להודיע על כך שהמקום עבור היוזר נגמר מראש. קרה לי שהוא התחיל לשמור קובץ ונתקע באמצע כי לא היה מספיק מקום. לאחר מכן הסביבה נתקעה והייתי צריכה לצאת מה eclipse. הקובץ שלא הצליח להישמר נשמר עד האמצע והיה חסר קטע גדול מאוד של קוד (עבודה של כ 3 שעות) שהיה עלי לשחזר מאפס. אני מניחה שהמחשבים לא יועברו בחזרה ל windows בקרוב. אבל אני מקווה שתלונותינו יעזרו לבאים אחרינו. *משוב בנושא העבודה במעבדה* *עבודה במעבדה*: - קיים מחסור בעמדות עבודה מה שדורש מאנשים לעבוד על מחשבים ניידים אישיים. - בהמשך לסעיף הקודם, קיים גם מחסור בחיבורי רשת לניידים. - לא ניתן להתקין plagins ותוכנות שיסייעו לנו בעבודה השוטפת על הפרויקט. *עבודה עם לינוקס*: - אין MS ofiice – מקשה על בניית מצגות ודוחות המוצר וכן מעוות עד לאופן בלתי קריא מסמכי דרישות ושונות הנשלחים עי צוות הקורס. - דפדפן קורס פעמים רבות ואינו מאפשר שחזור – מונע עדכון שוטף ב- Trac. - מקום בדיסק אינו מספיק להחזקת פרויקט – נדרש סנכרון עם כוננים מרוחקים אשר עליהם לא ניתן להריץ eclipse (ללא פעולות חילוץ מסובכות). - מחסור בעמדות עבודה ועבודה עם מחשבים ניידים אישיים דורשים סנכרון וביצוע שינויים עמ שהפרויקט על כל חלקיו יעבוד ויראה כמו שצריך בלינוקס. - מחשבים לא מזהים התקני USB – לא ניתן לבצע גיבויים לפרויקט ולהעביר קבצים בין מחשבים. - מערכת ההפעלה נוטת להיתקע לעיתים – דורש אתחול המחשב ואיבוד חומר עליו הושקעה עבודה רבה. *אני יודע שלרוב הבעיות ישנן פתרונות מקומיים**, **אולם אין סיבה שמעבר לשעות הנדרשות לביצוע הפרויקט עצמו נבזבז** **עוד שעות רבות במאבקים עם מחשבי המעבדה**!!!* *משוב בנושא העבודה במעבדה* מלבד שעות המפגש של הקורס ביום שני בבוקר, אני
Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa
Eli, why pay for an OS when you don't use it. Everyone has the right to choose whatever OS he wants, be it windows XP, linux, windows server 2003 or even for the sake of the argument buy a new laptop to use it for parts. I will elaborate further, even the seller can earn more from this. Lets say he sells separately laptop and OS separately. He can earn more from selling the OS separately according to the customer choice. This is a win-win situation. Sorana On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 11:33 AM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: Dan Shimshoni wrote: The struggle must go on! Sincerely, I don't know what for. The situation is not going to change because a very small group of people starts to bother computer stores with an unusual request. Asking to check the laptop for Linux compatibility with a Live CD makes sense, but with all respect, I find this struggle pointless. Unless you enjoy it, of course. My bet is that Linux will become mainstream because non-computer oriented companies with more than 10 computers will discover the advantage of maintaining the computers with Linux on them. And once ordinary people start to get used to it, the barrier is away. This is slowly happening, unless you've noticed that. And that will go on, unless the major Linux distros will be so happy about copying Windows' bells and whistles, that they'll adopt their flaws as well. Which is happening too. Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?
Another nice feature for the shell that makes life prettier. From the upper menu of the shell go to-Settings-Schema-Transparent, Light background. This will give the background of the desktop (whatever picture they have there). They will have to play with the font colors to be visible when they type a commands, but it's nicer than the dull black and white. This will give the WOW factor, while they can't do that on windows. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 5:24 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to asdd a mention of Sticky Keys: the ability to hit Shift _then_ a letter instead of having to hold shift. This ability has sped up my typing speed considerably. It is not unique to Linux, but it is better implemented in KDE (I don't know about Gnome) than in MS Windows. Not sure that sticky keys is as useful. Here is the final version which I just mailed to the lab users: http://ssdl-linux.cs.technion.ac.il/wiki/index.php/Image:Dozen_linux_tips.pdf ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?
I would add 2 useful commands: ls -at will show the files sorted by time. The newest will appear first. The second command that I highly recommend is for those who don't know which command to apply. A highly educative learning tool. For instance man -k directory will print all the commands related to directory that can be applied. A partially output of the above command is: mdel (1) - delete an MSDOS file mdeltree - recursively delete an MSDOS directory and its contents mdeltree (1) - recursively delete an MSDOS directory and its contents mdir (1) - display an MSDOS directory mdu (1) - display the amount of space occupied by an MSDOS directory mkdir(2) - create a directory mkdir(3p) - make a directory mkdirat (2) - create a directory relative to a directory file descriptor mkdtemp (3) - create a unique temporary directory mkfifoat (3) - make a FIFO (named pipe) relative to a directory file descriptor mkfontdir(1) - create an index of X font files in a directory mkfontdir(1x) - create an index of X font files in a directory mklost+found (8) - create a lost+found directory on a mounted Linux second extended file system mknod(3p) - make a directory, a special file, or a regular file rm (1p) - remove directory entries rmdir(2) - delete a directory rmdir(3p) - remove a directory It doesn't require root permissions. Sorana On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Friends, I wrote a short 10 tips for beginner Linux users document (see the attached), but I am missing a 10th tip... So, if you had to add one more tip, which one would that be? Note that I could not add any tips which require root privileges... Also note that out of the 9 I have, 7 are command line specific, 1 is general, and only 1 is GUI related. Any thoughts on a good GUI tip? Yossi ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?
true. It is less to type for the lazy ones. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net wrote: man -k is also known as apropos :) On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: I would add 2 useful commands: ls -at will show the files sorted by time. The newest will appear first. The second command that I highly recommend is for those who don't know which command to apply. A highly educative learning tool. For instance man -k directory will print all the commands related to directory that can be applied. A partially output of the above command is: mdel (1) - delete an MSDOS file mdeltree - recursively delete an MSDOS directory and its contents mdeltree (1) - recursively delete an MSDOS directory and its contents mdir (1) - display an MSDOS directory mdu (1) - display the amount of space occupied by an MSDOS directory mkdir(2) - create a directory mkdir(3p) - make a directory mkdirat (2) - create a directory relative to a directory file descriptor mkdtemp (3) - create a unique temporary directory mkfifoat (3) - make a FIFO (named pipe) relative to a directory file descriptor mkfontdir(1) - create an index of X font files in a directory mkfontdir(1x) - create an index of X font files in a directory mklost+found (8) - create a lost+found directory on a mounted Linux second extended file system mknod(3p) - make a directory, a special file, or a regular file rm (1p) - remove directory entries rmdir(2) - delete a directory rmdir(3p) - remove a directory It doesn't require root permissions. Sorana On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Friends, I wrote a short 10 tips for beginner Linux users document (see the attached), but I am missing a 10th tip... So, if you had to add one more tip, which one would that be? Note that I could not add any tips which require root privileges... Also note that out of the 9 I have, 7 are command line specific, 1 is general, and only 1 is GUI related. Any thoughts on a good GUI tip? Yossi ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Man is the only animal that laughs and weeps, for he is the only animal that is struck with the difference between what things are and what they ought to be. - William Hazlitt Ohad Lutzky ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?
I believe that a 2 way approach should appear in this wiki. The faster way (e.g command line) and the 2nd way which is GUI. Most of the tasks mentioned here can be done via gui as well. We can give them a way to choose what they want. Advanced section as mentioned by Dave is fine. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:34 AM, Adir Abraham a...@hamakor.org.il wrote: I strongly agree with Dave and Dotan. The regular user is looking for simplicity and less typing. This will convince him that it's impossible to use Linux from a user's point of view. Adir On 2/7/09, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com wrote: I strongly agree with Dotan here, Every single task a Linux user (user, not administrator) or even a programmer will ever want to do, he can do it using GUI alone. I believe that the perception that every Linux user needs to know how to use the command line if he wants to use Linux is an archaic perception that doesn't fit in with todays modern world and the modern Linux distributions available today. We try to show them how modern Linux is and how pretty Compiz Fusion is, and how KDE 4 is much prettier than windows 7http://www.zdnet.com.au/insight/software/soa/Is-it-Windows-7-or-KDE-4-/0,139023769,339294810,00.htm, but then we open a big ugly black screen that looks like DOS and start showing them all the l33t tricks we picked up in all the years we've been using Linux. I know using the command line is faster and easier and more powerful and everything, I use it myself all the time, but for the windows user's point of view, this is a total contradiction to the user friendliness we try so hard to preach. I know it's hard, but it's something I believe we must do if we ever want the simple windows user to start using Linux. I mean, look at the Technion. These are computer science majors we are talking about, and we can't even convince them to use it! how will we ever be able to convince the regular folks? So please, pretty please, with a cherry on top, stick to GUI apps when you teach a windows user how to use Linux. Dave. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 21:39, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/6 Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com: Folks, I realize the document I made was not sent, since this list does not take attachments. Here it goes. This document will only scare people away from Linux. Do not include the command line tips. It makes it appear that you have to know these commands in order to use Linux. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Party? Yes! Mark your calendars... Say YES if you will come.
yes, I will come On 1/29/09, David Cohen cdavi...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, As I work in the Technion I can help at February 19th, at 13:00. David On 1/28/09, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Folks, I see the little pebble I threw in this pond is still having its waves. I am overwhelmed by the responses, but I I will try to answer all messages. But, it is important for me to say that I am really really happy to see so many enthusiastic people here, and if no one objects too much, I will try to leverage this momentum and enthusiasm further. Concrete actions: *1. Linux party.* I had a discussion with Shahar Dag, the lab Engineer this morning, and we agreed on running a Linux get together event, with no formal description and content. The idea is that students and interested users will come to discuss their needs, experience and concerns with you guys. More importantly, we will be able to brainstorm further ideas beyond what is possible in a mailing list. This will not be an installation party (I have never been to one, so I do not really know what this means ;-)). Of course, people could get tips on installation in this event, etc., but we will not run formal installation. Zvi Dvir -- it would ber real nice if you could run war stories in that event. I set the date to Thursday, February 19th, at 13:00 in SSDL. Mark your calendars please. Pizzas and soft drinks will be served. Shaharr will take care of the publicity in the department. *2. Installation event. *In addition, we will run an instllation event in SSDL, right when the semester begins. We may wait for version 9.04 to come out, but the plan is to do that on the first Wednesday Noon after the semester begins. We will talk more about this during the party. *3. Live CD and Live DOK. *We will proceed with Sorana, to see if we can arrange that she makes a Live CD and a Live DOK from the lab. *4. Wiki Updates. *I would be real happy if one or two of you would help us in updating the SSDL wiki, and placing more information in it. If you are interested, just say so, and Shahar will open/activate the account, and will do so. *5. Haifa Linux Bulletin Board. *Would you be able to make a small poster of your events. We can post it in the lab for you. I am sure I missed a lot of things, but this will make a start. *Action Items for Each One of You - *Raise your hand if you will attend the party. - Raise your hand if you would like to take part in the Wiki updates. - Raise yourr hand if you would like to make a poster for the bulletin board. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] KDE?
wifi is not related to kde. It is related to the correct drivers and the kernel configuration. If it worked with older kernel, it should work with this one as well. On Wed, Jan 28, 2009 at 9:39 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Ok, I downloaded and installed KDE 4.2 on 8.10. I was impressed with the bells and whistles, but was not converted. For one KOffice did not work (I guess it is a distribution issue, but did not want to spend time on this. Second, the wireless did not work, so I had no connectivity (it was working with KDE4.0). So, I guess I will stick with Gnome until 9.04, at which time I will reconsider. Fedora, SuSE and othe distributions are great, so I hear, but we cannnot move to them in the lab. Too much of a hassle and compatability with other Technion computers. This is not to say that we will discorage users from installing kubuntu, fedora, suse, etc. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Haifux Digest, Vol 17, Issue 15
I suggested my help regarding VirtaulBox because one of the students mentioned it here. If I missed the correct thread, please accept my apology. I can help in other things as well. Sorana On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:31 PM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Sorana, I am not sure what you mean by VirtualBox. So many messages are going on in this list, so I may have missed something. If this is what I thought it was, then I would like to make one thing clear: I will not allow Windows to be run on the machines we have in the lab. This is not so much because I hate Windows. (I do not, I like it, and I think it has its place.) It is just that we are working with Microsoft to make a donation of hardware for running Windows - with remote logins from the Linux machines for those special cases you need windows. Installing a virtual windows machine will defy these efforts. Yossi On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 1:08 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: As I already promised to Schahar, I am willing to help. I can help with VirtualBox. VirtualBox has 2 versions 1, open source and another binary. The binary has an advantage that it supports usb, while the other doesn't. I am happily using VirtualBox-bin on my laptop and I know all the ins and outs. I suggest to install VirtualBox-bin. Vmware, I tried a couple of times and wasn't satisfied so much, but that may be due to unusual things that I needed to do. The installation of Vmware is a little bit more complicated and annoying. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Linux Installation Party
Hello Everyone I am willing to donate my time for any help needed. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote: Hello there, I am glad to hear about this initiative! I think a W2L Series in Haifa is long over due. I am willing to donate my time to help with the organization, give lectures (I even have a few ides) and helping with troubleshooting some of the problems mentioned on the post regarding the SSDL. Please let me know how can I be of assistance. I am free right away... ;-) .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Tue, Jan 27, 2009 at 15:55, Adir Abraham a...@hamakor.org.il wrote: Hi all, From time to time I hear voices at the campus, asking me when the next Linux party will be. I usually tell them that we simply have no volunteers, but this time it's different: SSDL and Prof. Yossi Gil will be glad to host the next Instaparty here in the Technion. The day will combine lectures for beginners, as well as Linux installations and troubleshooting, both for beginners and for advanced users. This day's purpose is to help both students and non-students know Linux better, get them familiar with Linux useabilities and show them how Linux is as easy to use as Windows. We will also have a special section for students and important development tools in Linux, and we will use the Wiki of SSDL to give better help. The Linux Distribution which will be installed, is either Ubuntu and/or Fedora 10. At the moment, the suggested date is 18.2, during Wednesday noon and beyond. However, if you need more time, and if Yossi find it convenient, it will probably be more producive if it we do this after Moed A exams (sometime in March) , when more students can appear, more hands can help and the rumor will spread better. In addition to that, if you have an idea for a lecture, please let me know and we will find a suitable room for it. Any hands who want to help in this very important mission, please join me and we will combine a working group for the issue. This is in addition to a few more people who suggested or asked for such events in the past, and wanted to organize such a thing again. Those who think that it's not important enough - simply don't be there. Linux Installation Party and Welcome to Linux events will be here this way or another. I thank Prof. Yossi Gil, Shahar Dag and SSDL for the great help that they offer. Adir ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Lecture Suggestion - Disco Project, an open source Map-Reduce framework based on Erlang and Python (mostly Python :-) )
I am interested too. I would like to hear a lecture about Mono as well. On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:49 PM, Hai Zaar haiz...@gmail.com wrote: -- Zaar On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:32 PM, Eran Sandler e...@sandler.co.il wrote: Hi all, It's been a while since I've posted to Haifux (or Linux-IL for that matter) but I am watching the mailing list from time to time and due to personal reasons found myself as a Haifa citizen for the past year (and probably for a couple more years :-) ). Somewhere in 2004 I even did a lecture on Mono, the open source .NET implementation, if some of you recall. Recently I've been involved with a cool open source project called Disco. Disco is an open source Map-Reduce framework written in Erlang and Python. It was written at Nokia's Palo Alto research center as a lightweight framework for rapid scripting of distributed data processing tasks but grew to become even more than that and is now even used for probabilistic modeling, data mining, full text indexing, etc. You can read more about Disco at http://discoproject.org Would a lecture on Map-Reduce in general and specifically Disco would interest people? Yes, I would be very interested to attend. If so, I'm more than willing to give the lecture and show some examples. Eran ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Some options for talks by a CEO from the silicon valley (on a special day)
I am interested and there is another person who is interested as well. On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 2:52 PM, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/12/9 Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]: * Open source - why? The people who go toLinux users groups don't need to hear this. * Linux hardware -- how to build Linux-ready hardware the easiest way possible Interesting. * The future of software and hardware development Because she has a crystal ball? * How to build a better, faster system inexpensively -- finding the right resources Interesting. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת ا-ب-ت-ث-ج-ح-خ-د-ذ-ر-ز-س-ش-ص-ض-ط-ظ-ع-غ-ف-ق-ك-ل-م-ن-ه-و-ي А-Б-В-Г-Д-Е-Ё-Ж-З-И-Й-К-Л-М-Н-О-П-Р-С-Т-У-Ф-Х-Ц-Ч-Ш-Щ-Ъ-Ы-Ь-Э-Ю-Я а-б-в-г-д-е-ё-ж-з-и-й-к-л-м-н-о-п-р-с-т-у-ф-х-ц-ч-ш-щ-ъ-ы-ь-э-ю-я ä-ö-ü-ß-Ä-Ö-Ü ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!
I believe that MIchael Eitan will pick up the glove. If someone can reach him, it would be great. On 12/6/08, Dan Shimshoni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, First I would like to say big thanks to the following bloggers, who mentioned zvi dvir and his struggle; Shachar Shemesh, Oren Maurer, Ori Idan, Doron Ofek. You are great! (Did I miss anyone ? Sorry if I missed anyone, these is what I saw in: http://planet.linux.org.il/) Yet I think it is not enough and I wish more bloggers would accept my call and mention zvi dvir and his struggle in their blogs; mind you, googling for 'zvi dvir' (in hebrew) gives now less than 450 results ! I wish it would be thousands! I wish that there will be some serious initiative to take advantage of this precedent and to change the current status of PC/latop computer market in Israel ; I would wish that some law will be passed that would enforce ***every*** computer store in Israel to sale a PC/laptop with no OS on it, and also would enforce every advertisment of these stores to declare this option clearly. This is election time now. Maybe an Atzuma should be prepared ? maybe some parliament members will be interested in such an initiative ? Can anyone think of something ? I think that taking advantage of this precedent in such a way can really benefit the open source community in Israel. Regards, Dan On Fri, Dec 5, 2008 at 1:21 PM, Shachar Shemesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dan Shimshoni wrote: Zvi, - You are our Open Source hero of the week (or maybe of the year, or maybe decade!). Personally, I think the importance of windows refund reach far beyond the scope of using Linux without paying the Microsoft tax. I wrote about it in my blog (http://blog.shemesh.biz/?p=568), but the gist of it is this: The entire validity of a EULA hangs on the article in it Zvi used - without it, there is no informed consent to the EULA and the entire agreement is null and void. This means that them resisting the refund is actually a good thing. What you need to sue them for is for not letting you move your copy of vista to a new computer, and use their refusal to give refunds as the proof that you did not accept the agreement, and are therefor not bound by it. Shachar ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!
I am interested. On Thu, Dec 4, 2008 at 10:16 AM, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All. Sorry for the previous bad HTML email... I wrote to tell that Slashdot [http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/08/12/03/1949230.shtml] also got the story, and placed a link to the Haifux website. I am thinking of preparing a talk for Haifux about my fight sometime in the near future, if there is interest ;-) Cheers, Zvi. Zvi Devir wrote: News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel! Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Successful Windows Vista refund!!
Well done. Congratulations. Thanks for insisting for publicity as well. Now it's time for party. ;-) On Wed, Dec 3, 2008 at 11:08 AM, Adir Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congratulations. You rock :) On 12/3/08, Zvi Devir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: News Flash: The first Windows refund in Israel! Check it up: http://www.ynet.co.il/articles/0,7340,L-3632367,00.html ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] pop(queue) fails
Nice attempt Orr. ;-)
On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
hi guys,
I have some issues with the following code, help would be appreciated.
#include stdio.h
struct Lecture {
char Lecturer[80];
char Topic[160];
char Date[30];
} lecture-str;
struct Node {
lecture-str data;
Node *next, *prev;
} node-str;
struct Queue {
Node First;
int size;
} Queue-str;
/* standard stuff */
int pop (Queue-str Haifux)
{
Node ptr*;
if (Haifux-size == 0) { printf (No lecture in queue\n); return -1;
print_node (Haifux-First);
ptr=Haifux-First;
Haifux-First = Hiafux-First.next;
free (ptr);
size --;
if (size) Haifux-First.prev=NULL;
}
=
Well, the code failed with the error message
No lecture in queue
Help, somebody?
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Re: [Haifux] Idea for lecture: connecting to HOT / 012 without a router
192.168.100.1 Suprisingly, it's for all modems On 6/18/08, Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/6/17 Hai Zaar [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Last time I've checked pptp worked fine for bezeqint and zahav. But with Hot you've got even better solution - direct connection (le-lo haigan) - you just get your IP/DNS/gateway from cable modem and you are online! Works like charm. What is the modem's IP address? I have a Teredyne (sp? it's under the table and inaccessible right now) modem and I have googled but not found the IP address. Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il א-ב-ג-ד-ה-ו-ז-ח-ט-י-ך-כ-ל-ם-מ-ן-נ-ס-ע-ף-פ-ץ-צ-ק-ר-ש-ת A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing? ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Wireshark - continuation lecture ?
Add me too. On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:58 PM, Hai Zaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:46 PM, Nir Abulaffio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shalom to all, There is a possibilty that I give a continuation lecture on Wireshark, and sniffers in general. There is a hole on 16-jun-2008 for that. However, I don't want to push this. I didn't see much enthusiasm, and there is no point that I talk to 3 people. I'll gladly attend! -- Zaar ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] About the lecture: Ethernet and Wireshark
Perfect, I am for it. On 3/25/08, Nir Abulaffio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear all, I have been told that my lecture was not exactly on the subject(s) that I said I would talk about. I am sorry if, I misled anybody. I am not an expert lecturer, and the questions lead in certain directions. If someone wants me to amplify on some subject, please ask. I will post links to the info I talked about. We talked about subjects for future lectures. 1. More on capture filters and display filters. (30min) 2. MOre on wireshark: coloring rules (it's great), and other tricks. (30') 3. IP multicast and uses. (30') 4. Major functions of a Router. Nir. On Tue, 25 Mar 2008, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Dear all, Soon, passover will arrive. Passover, as you all know, is the holiday when we commemorate the move Bnei Israel have done from using Microsoft Office Pyramid (tm) into FreePeople Linux distribution. [CUT] ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HAIFUX lecture] How Ethernet works - Nir Abulaffo
I also have installed wireshark and many more programs if you want. Let me know if you want. On Sun, Mar 23, 2008 at 6:53 PM, Nir Abulaffio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello to all, I'll try to make things as interesting as possible. To help me do that can someone bring a laptop with wireshark installed ? (I'll bring one. The idea is to use the other as traffic generator, in order to demonstrate live sniffing - as sniffing of cs net is not permitted.) Eli, I recall you had wireshark on yours - can you call me tonight at 052-8699842 ? If it is not possible, its not a terrible loss, as I have enough to talk and demonstrate. TIA, Nir Abulaffio. On Sat, 22 Mar 2008, Orr Dunkelman wrote: Next Monday, 24th of March, at 18:30 the Haifa Linux Club, will gather to Nir Abulaffo's lecture about How Ethernet works Abstract * What is an ip packet ? and what is not (e.g. ARP). * Difference between tcp and udp. What is icmp,igmp. * Terms like MTU,TTL. * Examples of many different problems with actual examples from * a working environment such as a university campus. What happens if MTU is wrong. * How does traceroute work. * What is a SYN attack. * What is the difference between a switch and a router. * What is the routing table in a computer, (a host) and what is the routing table in a router. and a few words about routing protocols. == We meet in Taub building, room 6. For instructions see: http://www.haifux.org/where.html Attendance is free, and you are all invited! == Future Lectures: Advanced Linux Kernel Networking - third lecture Rami Rosen 7/4/2008 We are always interested in hearing your talks and ideas. If you wish to give a talk, hold a discussion, or just plan some event haifux might be interested in, please contact us at [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Orr Dunkelman, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Any human thing supposed to be complete, must for that reason infallibly be faulty -- Herman Melville, Moby Dick. GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to [EMAIL PROTECTED]) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] invitation to work hands-on with Openmoko linux phone
The wifi is for independent browsing the internet and not through gprs? What flavor of linux it has? On 3/6/08, Tom S [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all , I am working in the field of Open-source entrepreneurship , we just started a club and a series of lectures. One of our projects is working on applications for an open source cell-phone. Michael Shilo from Openmoko inc. offered to contribute some phones and dev kits of the new model out next month. It's got GSM , GPRS , GPS (not agps) , WIFI , BT2 , accelerometers , multi-touch screen , etc. and of course ,it runs a flavor of linux. the platform and OS are open , the drivers are open , the hardware components are known , circuitry is closed , but the OS is portable to other devices so that is not a problem. if you have an Idea for an application or wan to participate in ongoing projects [openmoko.org] , please be in touch - [EMAIL PROTECTED] also check out our club wiki - http://technioneec.wiki.co.il/ more info on the phone - openmoko.com you can also call me - 050424 Thanks, Tom Sofer technion EEC coordinator ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Ctrl-c Ctrl-v behaviour when using hebrew keyboard on ubuntu/gnome
I am aware of the problem. It goes for ctrl-v as well. The only work around is to use the copy/paste from the main menu. If you use it in firefox, just use copy from there. On Wed, Mar 5, 2008 at 12:02 PM, Tzafrir Rehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When switched to hebrew keyboard locale on ubuntu/gnome, ctrl-c is not recognized, being ctrl-ב, and does not copy to clipboard. Does anyone know a good workaround for this? Thanks in advance, -- Tzafrir. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Lightening lecture
I couldn't attend the lesson, and I would like to post a script that I have
for playing radio stations in Israel.
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:26 PM, Hai Zaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Feb 21, 2008 at 1:30 AM, Orr Dunkelman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hai shalom (and all the rest),
If you want to organize a lightening talk session (or a mud fight) over
VCS/CVS/BitKeepers/Git (and any other esteemed solution which I might
have
forgot) - be my guest!
May be that should not be VCS specific talk. On crawlers lightening
talk you've mentioned that next lightening talk will probably be not
specific to any particular subject.
For example, I have another topic:
* libbash (libbash.sf.net) - easing bash scripts writing
So - if there is a demand for such a lightening session - email now, or
forever hold your ALT+F4 pressed!
Orr.
On Tue, Feb 19, 2008 at 7:54 PM, Hai Zaar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Good day!
Is there any other Lightening day planned?
Git lecture mentioned interesting topic of recording VCS Id
information in binaries.
I tried to use it and it turned out that there are at least several
ways to do it.
I think it would be worth 15 minutes to hear about how it can be done.
--
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#!/usr/bin/python
radio.py 0.1
A script that makes it easy to listen to online radio via mplayer
###
# Copyright (C) 2007 by Guy Rutenberg #
# [EMAIL PROTECTED]#
# #
# This program is free software; you can redistribute it and/or modify #
# it under the terms of the GNU General Public License as published by #
# the Free Software Foundation; either version 2 of the License, or #
# (at your option) any later version. #
# #
# This program is distributed in the hope that it will be useful, #
# but WITHOUT ANY WARRANTY; without even the implied warranty of#
# MERCHANTABILITY or FITNESS FOR A PARTICULAR PURPOSE. See the #
# GNU General Public License for more details. #
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# 59 Temple Place - Suite 330, Boston, MA 02111-1307, USA. #
import sys,os
radiostations = {#name:(address,description),
'Galgalatz':('http://gifs.msn.co.il/media/gglz.asx',''),
'Radio Tel Aviv':('http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?clipmediaid=30795',''),
'Galatz':('http://gifs.msn.co.il/media/glz.asx',''),
'RB':('http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=31ar=Reshet%5FBet',''),
'Reshet Bet':('http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=31ar=Reshet%5FBet',''),
'Reshet Gimel':('http://switch3.castup.net/cunet/gm.asp?ai=31ar=Gimel',''),
'Seattle':('http://spraydio.se/player/asx.jsp?room=seattleamp;spot=false',''),
'99ESC':('http://s18wm.castup.net/991791101-52.wmv',''),
'103FM':('http://live.103.fm/103fm-low/',''),
'100FM':('http://213.8.143.164/audiomedia',''),
'Haifa':('mms://192.117.122.35/radio','')
}
if len(sys.argv)1:
print you need to supply a station name
sys.exit(1)
try:
radiostations[sys.argv[1]]
except KeyError:
print Didn't recognized this station name:,sys.argv[1]
sys.exit(1)
args=['mplayer', '-softvol', '-playlist', radiostations[sys.argv[1]][0] ]
os.execvp(args[0],args)
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Re: [Haifux] Lecture proposal : how Ethernet works ?
I am interested. On Feb 5, 2008 5:30 PM, Nir Abulaffio [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Since I have heared tens of lectures in Haifux, I propose to give a lecture on the only thing I can think will interest the audience: An explanation of how Ethernet networks work by giving examples using etherheal (today wireshark) which is an open source sniffer. I can show the bits in the header of every packet and how they help to bring the Internet to work. What I will talk about (if at all) depends on feedback I get to this mail. -- possible items -- A basic network demonstration, from the point of view of the network, not from a specific host, with demonstrations using etherheal (today wireshark) 1. What is an ip packet ? and what is not (e.g. ARP) 2. Difference between tcp and udp. What is icmp,igmp. 3. Terms like MTU,TTL . 4. Examples of many different problems with actual examples from a working environment such as a university campus. 5. What happens if MTU is wrong. 6. How does traceroute work. 7. What is a SYN attack. 8. What is the difference between a switch and a router. 9. What is the routing table in a computer, (a host) and what is the routing table in a router. and a few words about routing protocols. -- Nir. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Linux Kernel Networking second lecture rerun
I am intersted too. On Jan 23, 2008 6:50 PM, arbel yossi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was in the first kernel networking lecture but missed the second one (lecture 180, Neighboring Subsystem and IPSec) given at this Jaunary, due to the strike. I believe that there are others who missed it. I had talked with Rami Rosen about a rerun and he said that, as was with the first lecture, he agrees and it is possible if there is enough demand. So what do you say? Yossi Arbel ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] Web crawler lightning talk session?
Nice Idea Eli. I have a nice and clean script to fetch radio streaming from israeli radio stations. I use it on daily basis to hear radio. It's written in python. But it's not my creation. Took it from other web site. It will be a good idea to put them on the web after that, so we can all use it. Sorana On Dec 11, 2007 11:17 AM, Eli Billauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, As some might have noticed, the lecture queue is empty. So I want to suggest a lighting talk session about web crawlers. You know, those scripts many of us have somewhere to fetch whatever material we want from internet sites. Or vote more than once... It could be pretty amusing to see what other people have done. So what I suggest, is some 5-10 minutes per crawler (I expect them all to be scripts). Show the code, no slides, and a few words about the considerations (timeouts, redirects etc). A diversity of languages could be nice. Maybe we can vote for prizes in some categories: 1. The most elegant crawler 2. The worst made crawler 3. The sneakiest crawler etc... Is there any interest? Who wants to bring their secret code for a show? I can show at least 3... Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] A lecture suggestion : Linux Kernel Networking Overview
me too. On 7/2/07, guy keren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: if there will be any demand for this - i could give the re-run. --guy Eli Billauer wrote: To begin with, I'm not what you could call a network programmer, so it's very possible that this lecture could be done better by someone else. But to begin with, let's see that a talk about basic socket programming has an audience (which was my original, yet unanswered, question). Eli Orr Dunkelman wrote: Eli, Following the standard FOSS approach- the one who cries is the one to fix... Would you be willing to give a re-run of the said lecture? We have an open slot (I think the 6th of August is currently not committed) if you like. Orr. - Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Haifa Linux Club Mailing List (http://www.haifux.org) To unsub send an empty message to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
