Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 8:09 AM, Dave Roi david...@gmail.com wrote: I agree with you, but then you give a double standard. It's OK for them to have silk gloves when they use Windows but it's not OK when they use Linux. OK... I see your point. The tough question is how to put the silk gloves on,

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Dotan Cohen
The curriculum is such that they use Linux right from the start - that is, they have to make their C and C++ programs run on our mainframe - and they use a terminal windows to logon to that. Moreover, in their second semester Introduction to Systems Programming they learn about makefiles,

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread guy keren
1. another KDE tip (please verify it works in current KDE systems): there is a tool named 'klipper', which allows you to save the last 10 (or more) copied entries. whenever you copy something, it gets pushed into klipper's window as well, and when you click on an entry in klipper - it gets

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Shlomi Fish
On Saturday 07 February 2009 14:20:38 guy keren wrote: 6. adding parametrized bookmarks and short-cutting them (copied from a user's comment on some blog page): [ begin quote ] Awesome article! Learned a few tricks here, to be sure. However, the feature that I find most useful about Firefox

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
Thanks for all the tips and information. Here is what I have for now: 4 GUI tips, 5 shell tips, and 2 tips for more information. I did not include the firefox tips yet, since I think these deserve a separate page.* * * * *יא טיפים לעבודה בלינוקס* א. *העתק הדבק מהיר**: *אמנם ניתן לעשות

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 11:00 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: I have worked in a mechanical garage for six years. I know to rebuild engines, replace entire steering / braking systems, replace almost anything electrical in the vehicle, replace trim components, and of course how to

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Dave Roi
If we are on the subject of panel applets might I suggest Hamsterhttp://projecthamster.wordpress.com/ . Description: Project Hamster helps you to keep track of how much time you spend on various activities during the day. Whenever you move from one task to another, you change your current

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Tzafrir Rehan
I'd add something about the typing break feature - one of the lesser known features of gnome. Enable it in Keyboard preferences, and if you type for X minutes without stopping, it will force you to take a break. Sounded very ridiculous when I first saw it, but I once tried it and it actually is

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
Excellent tip. I will add this one right away! 2009/2/7 Tzafrir Rehan tzafri...@gmail.com I'd add something about the typing break feature - one of the lesser known features of gnome. Enable it in Keyboard preferences, and if you type for X minutes without stopping, it will force you to

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Yossi Gil
On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 4:17 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: You might want to asdd a mention of Sticky Keys: the ability to hit Shift _then_ a letter instead of having to hold shift. This ability has sped up my typing speed considerably. It is not unique to Linux, but it is better

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Sorana Fraier
Another nice feature for the shell that makes life prettier. From the upper menu of the shell go to-Settings-Schema-Transparent, Light background. This will give the background of the desktop (whatever picture they have there). They will have to play with the font colors to be visible when they

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Oron Peled
On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Yossi Gil wrote: Moreover, in their second semester Introduction to Systems Programming they learn about makefiles, shell programming and other UNIX stuff. We just do not do enough to make this learning effective... I'd like to mention that this is probably one

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sat, Feb 07, 2009 at 10:12:00PM +0200, Oron Peled wrote: * The Unix part is tragic story in itself. Let's start with the simple fact it uses csh/tcsh (Nee, nee, nee, nee) Nope :-( http://webcourse.cs.technion.ac.il/234122/Winter2008-2009/en/syllabus.html Even Mac OSX defaults to a

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Dave Roi
What I meant was GUI IDEs such as Eclipse and Netbeans instead of vim and emacs. And for the kicker, see attachment :-) Dave. On Sat, Feb 7, 2009 at 21:46, Oron Peled o...@actcom.co.il wrote: On Saturday, 7 בFebruary 2009, Dave Roi wrote: Every single task a Linux user (user, not

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-07 Thread Ohad Lutzky
The choice of shell isn't the worst part (although, seriously... tcsh? holy crap!). Read the assignment itself. A system to manage and analyze a list of delay tickets for public transportation. Good idea for perl (which is explicitly forbidden IIRC, as are sed and awk)? Certainly. But for tcsh?

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Sorana Fraier
I would add 2 useful commands: ls -at will show the files sorted by time. The newest will appear first. The second command that I highly recommend is for those who don't know which command to apply. A highly educative learning tool. For instance man -k directory will print all the commands

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Ohad Lutzky
man -k is also known as apropos :) On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: I would add 2 useful commands: ls -at will show the files sorted by time. The newest will appear first. The second command that I highly recommend is for those who don't know which

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Sorana Fraier
true. It is less to type for the lazy ones. On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:43 PM, Ohad Lutzky o...@lutzky.net wrote: man -k is also known as apropos :) On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: I would add 2 useful commands: ls -at will show the files sorted by

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Yossi Gil
Folks, I realize the document I made was not sent, since this list does not take attachments. Here it goes. *10 **טיפים לעבודה בלינוקס* א. אמנם ניתן לעשות בלינוקס העתק הדבק כמו בחלונות, כלומר, סמן, הקש CTRL-C, עבור למקום החדש, והקש CTRL-V. אבל, יש דרך הרבה יותר מהירה: סמן את הקטע, עבור

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Orna Agmon Ben-Yehuda
I would add two strong *nix (*) utilities: find . -name '*string*' grep -r -n info, pinfo I would also direct them to the W2L repository, specifically to : http://www.shlomifish.org/lecture/W2L/Mini-Intro/slides/ for which we have already composed a list as you are now composing, and in general

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Dave Roi
I strongly agree with Dotan here, Every single task a Linux user (user, not administrator) or even a programmer will ever want to do, he can do it using GUI alone. I believe that the perception that every Linux user needs to know how to use the command line if he wants to use Linux is an archaic

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Dave Roi
I agree with you, but then you give a double standard. It's OK for them to have silk gloves when they use Windows but it's not OK when they use Linux. It's hard enough for them to start using a completely different operating system they have never heard of before after spending their entire life

Re: [Haifux] The 10th tip?

2009-02-06 Thread Sorana Fraier
I believe that a 2 way approach should appear in this wiki. The faster way (e.g command line) and the 2nd way which is GUI. Most of the tasks mentioned here can be done via gui as well. We can give them a way to choose what they want. Advanced section as mentioned by Dave is fine. On Sat, Feb 7,