Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-09 Thread Shachar Shemesh
Zvi Devir wrote: However, I won't start the process with you unless you really want to go all the way (up to district court if required). It is not at all trivial that, should the small claims court fail, the district court is an option. If memory serves me correctly, you are not

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-09 Thread Zvi Devir
Quoting Shachar Shemesh: Zvi Devir wrote: However, I won't start the process with you unless you really want to go all the way (up to district court if required). It is not at all trivial that, should the small claims court fail, the district court is an option. If memory serves

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 09:52:47AM +0200, Dan Shimshoni wrote: Hi everybody, Reminder: On 3.12.08, we heard about Zvi Devir and his Successful Windows Vista refund - see: http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg03372.html And later, there was a lecture in Haifux by Zvi Devir

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Eli Billauer
Dan Shimshoni wrote: The struggle must go on! Sincerely, I don't know what for. The situation is not going to change because a very small group of people starts to bother computer stores with an unusual request. Asking to check the laptop for Linux compatibility with a Live CD makes

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Sorana Fraier
Eli, why pay for an OS when you don't use it. Everyone has the right to choose whatever OS he wants, be it windows XP, linux, windows server 2003 or even for the sake of the argument buy a new laptop to use it for parts. I will elaborate further, even the seller can earn more from this. Lets say

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Sun, Feb 08, 2009 at 11:33:16AM +0200, Eli Billauer wrote: Dan Shimshoni wrote: The struggle must go on! Sincerely, I don't know what for. The situation is not going to change because a very small group of people starts to bother computer stores with an unusual request. Asking

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Eli Billauer
Hello, Somehow I had a feeling I was going to write another message in this subject. Tzafrir Cohen wrote: You mean: asking them to do what Dell already does today in Israel (preload with FreeDOS) is too much? If they're not doing so voluntarily, yes. A computer vendor, like any

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Eli Billauer
Orr Dunkelman wrote:. The only reason Microsoft cannot have the benefit of Buy us or else... is the fact that they control too large portion of the market. The moment they will go under 70%, they would be able to actually say the above (70% may be country dependent). I have to say that

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Dotan Cohen
As far as I've seen, it tells the user to check the policy for refund. It can very well be to cancel the whole deal, for a refund of the whole sum. And the software can also be considered a present. I mean, suppose that you go to the supermarket, and you get an extra piece of something because

Re: [Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-08 Thread Shachar Raindel
On Sun, Feb 8, 2009 at 7:27 PM, Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il wrote: As far as I've seen, it tells the user to check the policy for refund. It can very well be to cancel the whole deal, for a refund of the whole sum. And the software can also be considered a present. I mean, suppose that

[Haifux] Windows-Free laptops in Haifa

2009-02-07 Thread Dan Shimshoni
Hi everybody, Reminder: On 3.12.08, we heard about Zvi Devir and his Successful Windows Vista refund - see: http://www.mail-archive.com/haifux@haifux.org/msg03372.html And later, there was a lecture in Haifux by Zvi Devir about it: see: