Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
these aren't any noobs. they are CS students, and they care because their job might be on linux even if their desktop is windows. that's a point we have to make. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 22:08, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli You can tell them that Dotan Cohen uses Linux at home. Seriously, Linux noobs don't care which toasters or badgers are running Linux. They want to know if their desktop can do in Linux what it did in Windows. That's all. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Joan Crawfordhttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/j/joan_crawford.html - I, Joan Crawford, I believe in the dollar. Everything I earn, I spend. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
these aren't any noobs. they are CS students, and they care because their job might be on linux even if their desktop is windows. that's a point we have to make. Eli pointed out that this was at the W2L lecture: I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. For CS students who need to know that Linux exists, I agree with you. But not for potential new desktop users. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
The purpose of this W2L is twofold. Yes, we intend it both for students/developers and for desktop users, but not at the same time, usually. Of the first two talks, the first (dev tools) is specifically targeted to students (note the hour). The second is non-technical, and is specifically targeted at wide users audience. The reason Eli speaks at the first talk, is to promote the club and the rest of the W2L talks (including the second). The last talk is also intended for developers, although not necessarily students. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:10 AM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: these aren't any noobs. they are CS students, and they care because their job might be on linux even if their desktop is windows. that's a point we have to make. Eli pointed out that this was at the W2L lecture: I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. For CS students who need to know that Linux exists, I agree with you. But not for potential new desktop users. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Hi all, If I guess correctly, the lecture is for students of the SSDL laboratory. One of the main reasons I decided to place Linux in the lab is so that the students, especially those in the Software Engineering track, are exposed to an operating system in which all major, serious (not toy VBA) software development is made. I may be able to turn in on Wednesday, but the main message should not focus on a Desktop for stupid users, since if the students insist on being stupid, there is no way one can beat Windows. They would be stuck with Windows just as Mr. I sell vegetables in the market. Linux could be a great desktop, but I do not care so much about it, and nor should the students be. They should use Linux since (a) it offers a better software development experience (b) because a huge bulk of serious development is done on Linux (readers, mobile phones, routers, modems, disks, file servers, web servers, clouds, data centers, etc.) and (c) because as professionals to be, they should be open minded and use more than one operating system. I realize there are attempts to for giving Linux users an MS Office experience. I think this effort is a waste of money, resources and the such. Take care. Yg., 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, If I guess correctly, the lecture is for students of the SSDL laboratory. One of the main reasons I decided to place Linux in the lab is so that the students, especially those in the Software Engineering track, are exposed to an operating system in which all major, serious (not toy VBA) software development is made. I may be able to turn in on Wednesday, but the main message should not focus on a Desktop for stupid users, since if the students insist on being stupid, there is no way one can beat Windows. They would be stuck with Windows just as Mr. I sell vegetables in the market. Linux could be a great desktop, but I do not care so much about it, and nor should the students be. They should use Linux since (a) it offers a better software development experience (b) because a huge bulk of serious development is done on Linux (readers, mobile phones, routers, modems, disks, file servers, web servers, clouds, data centers, etc.) and (c) because as professionals to be, they should be open minded and use more than one operating system. I realize there are attempts to for giving Linux users an MS Office experience. I think this effort is a waste of money, resources and the such. The other side of the coin is that the purpose of the W2L from Haifux's point of view is PR for Haifux itself, making the experience more enjoyable to us all, by injecting new blood of speakers and listeners. Users who care for the Windows experience are not likely to be any of those. Take care. Yg., 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
The other side of the coin is that the purpose of the W2L from Haifux's point of view is PR for Haifux itself, making the experience more enjoyable to us all, by injecting new blood of speakers and listeners. Users who care for the Windows experience are not likely to be any of those. Don't know much about the PR, but please be advised that the two main complaints on Linux I saw were: (a) We cannot use office. (b) We cannot run Video players in double speed to listen to lectures. To (a) the answer should be - you do not have to use office for any of the courses taught in the lab. (b) ??? Does any one know how to fix it Also, Shahar, the lab engineer, has Linux on a USB, that he can give out to students, who wants to use it portably. Please mention this. Take care. Yg., 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Hello again. Thanks to those who gave me valuable examples. Some of those definitely go on board. My (lightning) lecture, as planned, is going to give the practical perspective on why Linux should interest students here and now. I leave the ideological part to Monday. There are millions of things I'd like to talk about, but I try to keep it 20 minutes in the planning (knowing it is likely to get slightly longer). I'll focus on two points: One is to show that they are likely to encounter Linux in their professional lives. The second is to explain why bother learning tools which are not appealing at first glance (such as vi, emacs, gcc, make), and why those Windows-lookalike things on Linux are nice to have at best, but not the thing to look at. To me, these are the two most important points. I hope some of you agree with me. If you don't, you're most welcome to give it a try on the next W2L event. Thanks again, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 11:06 AM, Yossi Gil yossi@gmail.com wrote: The other side of the coin is that the purpose of the W2L from Haifux's point of view is PR for Haifux itself, making the experience more enjoyable to us all, by injecting new blood of speakers and listeners. Users who care for the Windows experience are not likely to be any of those. Don't know much about the PR, but please be advised that the two main complaints on Linux I saw were: (a) We cannot use office. (b) We cannot run Video players in double speed to listen to lectures. To (a) the answer should be - you do not have to use office for any of the courses taught in the lab. (b) ??? Does any one know how to fix it Also, Shahar, the lab engineer, has Linux on a USB, that he can give out to students, who wants to use it portably. Please mention this. Take care. Yg., 2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli -- Web: http://www.billauer.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? They are audio and video files hosted on the Technion's MMS server. The files are not stored locally, they are streamed over the network. Downloading them for local play is not feasible as the files are hundreds of megabytes in size and stream in realtime. That means that downloading a 60 minute lecture takes 60 minutes. Although the lectures can be played at high speed, they cannot be downloaded as such. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Are they allowed to download it at all? VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? They are audio and video files hosted on the Technion's MMS server. The files are not stored locally, they are streamed over the network. Downloading them for local play is not feasible as the files are hundreds of megabytes in size and stream in realtime. That means that downloading a 60 minute lecture takes 60 minutes. Although the lectures can be played at high speed, they cannot be downloaded as such. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:11 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 1:04 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: about listening to lectures, is it only audio or audio + video? There is a possibility to play audio at double speed. if it's with video it is more problematic. which players they use on windows to play at double speed? They are audio and video files hosted on the Technion's MMS server. The files are not stored locally, they are streamed over the network. Downloading them for local play is not feasible as the files are hundreds of megabytes in size and stream in realtime. That means that downloading a 60 minute lecture takes 60 minutes. Although the lectures can be played at high speed, they cannot be downloaded as such. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Shahar is a subscriber. I suggest he speaks up... 2009/11/1 Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
The question is if x1.6 works ok and there is no problem of synchronization between audio and video. Did you try this on linux with vlc? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Sorry, I didn't notice that you mentioned it doesn't work with vlc. Can you try with newer vlc and see if it works at least in the streaming with faster play. On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 7:35 PM, Sorana Fraier sf10...@gmail.com wrote: The question is if x1.6 works ok and there is no problem of synchronization between audio and video. Did you try this on linux with vlc? On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 2:08 PM, Dotan Cohen dotanco...@gmail.com wrote: Are they allowed to download it at all? No, but there are work arounds. However, it takes a full hour to download a lecture as it can only be downloaded in realtime. And they are hundreds of megabytes in size. Downloading is impractical. VLC is capable to save streams locally. The problem here is that there are some players that play audio at double speed but it's problematic with the video as well. There is a pitch. I have tried VLC, it does not play these videos at higher speed. I think that pitch-control is already built into the newest VLCs. VLC is capable of play faster. But it's not double speed. Would that be ok for them? Depends on the student. I like x1.6 speed. Most like x2.0. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Eli, Will you teach anything specific to Linux or general Unix development tools ? If you will teach the general Unix, it is not really relevant to the students of the lecture the difference between Linux and Unix, so you probably can provide general Unix usage statistics to sell the students Unix development tools. Regards, Vadim -Original Message- From: haifux-boun...@haifux.org [mailto:haifux-boun...@haifux.org] On Behalf Of guy keren Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:52 AM To: Eli Billauer Cc: Haifa Linux Club Subject: Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world tivo (the first wide-spread digital video recording appliance) is a linux-based machine. linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. google's android operating system is actually based on linux. many (most?) cable modems and adsl modems run linux as their base operating system. in fact, a lot of embedded products developed in israel (And of-course abroad) are based on linux. google's search appliances and data-centers all run linux - so when you search via google, you're using linux (http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=15898) --guy Eli Billauer wrote: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id= 18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
worlds most powerful computer runs linux, based on wikipedia ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_Roadrunner) i like this example because it shows how nicely linux scales from a cellphone or a modem to 12K CPU supercomputer On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 07:56, Vadim Eisenberg vadim.eisenb...@gmail.comwrote: Eli, Will you teach anything specific to Linux or general Unix development tools ? If you will teach the general Unix, it is not really relevant to the students of the lecture the difference between Linux and Unix, so you probably can provide general Unix usage statistics to sell the students Unix development tools. Regards, Vadim -Original Message- From: haifux-boun...@haifux.org [mailto:haifux-boun...@haifux.org] On Behalf Of guy keren Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:52 AM To: Eli Billauer Cc: Haifa Linux Club Subject: Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world tivo (the first wide-spread digital video recording appliance) is a linux-based machine. linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. google's android operating system is actually based on linux. many (most?) cable modems and adsl modems run linux as their base operating system. in fact, a lot of embedded products developed in israel (And of-course abroad) are based on linux. google's search appliances and data-centers all run linux - so when you search via google, you're using linux (http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=15898) --guy Eli Billauer wrote: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id= 18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Charles de Gaullehttp://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/authors/c/charles_de_gaulle.html - The better I get to know men, the more I find myself loving dogs. ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Hi. Take note that ALL book readers (kendalls and the such) work on Linux. Nokia is moving to Linux. Western Digital MyBook disks use Linux. Google Data Centers are all Linux based. More to come. 2009/10/31 Vadim Eisenberg vadim.eisenb...@gmail.com: Eli, Will you teach anything specific to Linux or general Unix development tools ? If you will teach the general Unix, it is not really relevant to the students of the lecture the difference between Linux and Unix, so you probably can provide general Unix usage statistics to sell the students Unix development tools. Regards, Vadim -Original Message- From: haifux-boun...@haifux.org [mailto:haifux-boun...@haifux.org] On Behalf Of guy keren Sent: Saturday, October 31, 2009 12:52 AM To: Eli Billauer Cc: Haifa Linux Club Subject: Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world tivo (the first wide-spread digital video recording appliance) is a linux-based machine. linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. google's android operating system is actually based on linux. many (most?) cable modems and adsl modems run linux as their base operating system. in fact, a lot of embedded products developed in israel (And of-course abroad) are based on linux. google's search appliances and data-centers all run linux - so when you search via google, you're using linux (http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=15898) --guy Eli Billauer wrote: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id= 18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:51:37AM +0200, guy keren wrote: linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. Some of them. Some aren't. E.g. WRT54G (later versions) vs. WRT54GL -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
Partner's (Orange) ISP Router is actually based on OpenRG, which is Linux: http://www.orange.net.il/isp/opensource/ .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:59, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:51:37AM +0200, guy keren wrote: linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. Some of them. Some aren't. E.g. WRT54G (later versions) vs. WRT54GL -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il || a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il || best ICQ# 16849754 || friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
In france you get from your ISP (which is also a phone provider, and cable services), a small box which does DSL + cable + phone (VoIP) + wireless router + TiVO (40 GB hard disk) + playing from USB + broadcast to the TV through power lines (ethernet over power lines). The box we had (freebox) was based on some *NIX system, and I would guess that most boxes are also *NIX. Cheers, On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 6:37 PM, Amichai Rotman amic...@iglu.org.il wrote: Partner's (Orange) ISP Router is actually based on OpenRG, which is Linux: http://www.orange.net.il/isp/opensource/ .::. Amichai Rotman UIN#: 6401746 Registered Linux User#: 201192 [http://counter.li.org/] Registered Ubuntu User #12851 [http://ubuntucounter.geekosophical.net] PLEASE READ: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html .::. On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 11:59, Tzafrir Cohen tzaf...@cohens.org.il wrote: On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 12:51:37AM +0200, guy keren wrote: linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. Some of them. Some aren't. E.g. WRT54G (later versions) vs. WRT54GL -- Tzafrir Cohen | tzaf...@jabber.org | VIM is http://tzafrir.org.il | | a Mutt's tzaf...@cohens.org.il | | best ICQ# 16849754 | | friend ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux -- Orr Dunkelman, orr.dunkel...@gmail.com GPG fingerprint: C2D5 C6D6 9A24 9A95 C5B3 2023 6CAB 4A7C B73F D0AA (This key will never sign Emails, only other PGP keys. The key corresponds to o...@vipe.technion.ac.il) ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
2009/10/30 Eli Billauer e...@billauer.co.il: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli You can tell them that Dotan Cohen uses Linux at home. Seriously, Linux noobs don't care which toasters or badgers are running Linux. They want to know if their desktop can do in Linux what it did in Windows. That's all. -- Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com http://gibberish.co.il ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
On Friday 30 October 2009 10:46:44 Eli Billauer wrote: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli Maybe these links help? http://www.codehost.com/where/finance_where_is_linux_being_used.php http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/whosusinglinux.htm http://customers.redhat.com/category/industry/consumer/ http://www.debian.org/users/ ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
Re: [Haifux] [HELP HELP] Uses of Linux in the real world
tivo (the first wide-spread digital video recording appliance) is a linux-based machine. linksys wireless routers are linux-based machines. google's android operating system is actually based on linux. many (most?) cable modems and adsl modems run linux as their base operating system. in fact, a lot of embedded products developed in israel (And of-course abroad) are based on linux. google's search appliances and data-centers all run linux - so when you search via google, you're using linux (http://www.google.com/support/gsa/bin/answer.py?hl=enanswer=15898) --guy Eli Billauer wrote: Hello, I'm working on the short talk I'm going to give on Wednesday on the W2L opening event. I'd like to give some examples of well-known uses of GNU/Linux. Does anyone have information, or even better, pointers to credible sources of such information? Does anyone have any credible number of Linux penetration in servers, business and government desktops? For example, some of Edimax wireless routers are actually Linux machines. How do I know? Because they give a link to the source. (See http://www.edimax.com/en/produce_detail.php?pd_id=268pl1_id=3pl2_id=18 ) I need more like these. Or articles. Thanks in advance, Eli ___ Haifux mailing list Haifux@haifux.org http://hamakor.org.il/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/haifux
