Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-09 Thread Gordon Scott
On 08/08/2012 16:58, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: On 8 August 2012 07:54, James Courtier-Dutton james.dut...@gmail.com wrote: I seem to have been misunderstood here. I think we both misunderstood Vic, who has a laptop PSU capable of both 12V and 240V input (probably also 90V...265V). I've

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-09 Thread Vic
Vic ... could you post a link? This is the one I use :- http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/LCD-90W-Universal-Laptop-AC-DC-Adapter-For-Toshiba-Lenovo-Sony-Fujitsu-Series-/110924773646?pt=UK_Computing_LaptopAccessories_PowerSupplieshash=item19d3a1b90e Vic. -- Please post to:

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Vic
The 12v laptop power is also more efficient. Fewer power conversion steps. No, that's not true. All these PSUs are switch-mode; their efficiency is dictated by the design and the selection of components. Even linear regulators are no longer that fussed about the overall drop across them - as

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Gordon Scott
On 08/08/2012 07:27, Vic wrote: The 12v laptop power is also more efficient. Fewer power conversion steps. No, that's not true. All these PSUs are switch-mode; their efficiency is dictated by the design and the selection of components. It is true. If you use a 240V intermediate stage, you

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Vic
It is true. It isn't. If you use a 240V intermediate stage So you don't use a 240V intermediate stage. You have a single conversion from Vin to Vout. That only gets complicated if you haev to cope with variable conditions, such that you can't say for all situations whether Vin Vout or Vin

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread john lewis
On Tue, 07 Aug 2012 22:30:37 +0100 Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote: On 07/08/12 21:51, Samuel Penn wrote: And then there's this: http://www.biolitestove.com/campstove/camp-overview/features/ That looks interesting! But a bit chunky for backpacking/wilderness camping. My

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Gordon Scott
On 08/08/2012 09:23, Vic wrote: snip So you don't use a 240V intermediate stage. You have a single conversion from Vin to Vout. That only gets complicated if you haev to cope with variable conditions, such that you can't say for all situations whether Vin Vout or Vin Vout; that might involve

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Chris Liddell
On 08/08/12 12:24, Gordon Scott wrote: On 08/08/2012 09:23, Vic wrote: snip So you don't use a 240V intermediate stage. You have a single conversion from Vin to Vout. That only gets complicated if you haev to cope with variable conditions, such that you can't say for all situations whether

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 08/08/12 11:00, john lewis wrote: But a bit chunky for backpacking/wilderness camping. My petrol fueled stove is a quarter the size, but it did mean having to carry a sigg fuel bottle as well. Finding somewhere to purchase small quantities of unleaded fuel gave us problems when backpacking in

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Gordon Scott
On 08/08/2012 11:04, Vic wrote: The original url showed a 12V to 240V converter. The conversation had moved to a PSU that has dual 240VAC or 12VDC inputs. The claim was that the 12V input is more efficient. It is not. Oh I see. I'd read through the mails a couple of times, but had failed to

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-08 Thread Paul Stimpson
Hi, Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk wrote: Any thoughts on this or other similar devices? For me, it's the loss of the mobile devices that have the greatest impact on my day (My phone does a credible job at web browsing and email so I can generally wait until I can find Mains to

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-07 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 07/08/12 21:05, c...@spamcop.net wrote: Two things: do check the load your gadgets will put on it - I've seen laptop PSUs pushing over a 100 watts these days. Also, powering it with cigarette lighter plug, usually you can't get the full wattage. For the full wattage, you have to use the

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-07 Thread cjl
Quoting Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk: On 07/08/12 21:05, c...@spamcop.net wrote: Hi Chris, I actually want it for charging stuff while we are on the move, notably my Toshiba NB200 netbook and my girls' iPods. Is it suitable for this or am I looking at the wrong product? That should

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-07 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 07/08/12 21:19, c...@spamcop.net wrote: That should be fine. I prefer one of those, than having dedicated car chargers for every gadget. Actually, are you anywhere near Andover? If it's only for a couple of weeks' holiday, and you're nearby, you can borrow mine - although, as I said, it

Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Universal Car Chargers

2012-08-07 Thread cjl
Quoting Sean Gibbins s...@funkygibbins.me.uk: Cheers Chris, that's very kind, but as you imply the USB charger was a selling point for me, plus we're a fair way from Andover! No worries. I'll give this one a go and let you know how I get on. Good luck with it. Chris -- Please post to: