Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 24 March 2012 21:25, Bryn Jones bryn.jon...@gmail.com wrote: Anyway. Anyone got any kit they don't need, want, think is useless. I'm here!! Anyone that wants to talk to me about business and setting up CIC's please do! Anyone want to offer some time (when I get some sessions

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread Ally Biggs
I have always been highly interested in Business and the whole Open Source Ethos, I hate waste, hate chucking kit out I guess part of me has always wanted to get a business off the ground. but I want to be able to give something back to people wether it will be Linux / Open Source training /

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread Bryn
I think I'm with you here!. That's an unusual policy (as far as I am aware!). Answer in 2 parts - 1. I'm not planning on any kit being returned except as goodwill i.e. person in question has got moneys together and life sorted and bought a new machine. 2. Why is your company's policy

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread hantslug
On Sunday 25 March 2012 16:36:23 Bryn wrote: Why is your company's policy this??? dban'll wipe a disk. an old phone can be reset. WEEE by any chance? That, and the horror stories they have heard. Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface:

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread Bryn
Yeah there's a note on my todo list about writing a data destruction policy!!! AFAIK dban works and has been certified by someone or other cleverer than me. I believe Jamies use a paid for tool (paid per use not by single licence!!!) as part of an agreement with a supplier of PC's to them.

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread Ally Biggs
We use blannco works out about £1.30 to wipe a hard disk http://www.blancco.com/uk/benefits/most-certified-data-erasure/ Date: Sun, 25 Mar 2012 17:22:45 +0100 From: bjo...@riseup.net To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Subject: Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread hantslug
On Sunday 25 March 2012 17:22:45 Bryn wrote: Yeah there's a note on my todo list about writing a data destruction policy!!! AFAIK dban works and has been certified by someone or other cleverer than me. I believe Jamies use a paid for tool (paid per use not by single licence!!!) as part of an

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-25 Thread Alan Pope
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 25/03/12 19:24, hants...@googlemail.com wrote: There are those who believe that it is virtually impossible to ensure that data on an HDD is unretrievable, no matter what you throw at it, how much you are willing to spend on it or how much

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 23/03/12 23:55, Bryn wrote: Hi Bryn, Welcome to the list! Any questions/comments send away!! Well, the first thing that occurred to me reading your post was that you were going to end up being associated with Jamies [1]. However, since it seems not, it's perhaps worth mentioning that

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Bryn
I've replied off list because I don't want to be inflammatory - I visited Jamies about volunteering and when I saw the prices they charged for kit it irked me!, also they had a lovely suite setup for training and it hadn't been in use for some considerable time. My aims are slightly different

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Bryn Jones
I failed miserably to reply off list Hi I'm Bryn and I'm a recovering alcoholic!!! On 24/03/12 10:24, Bryn wrote: I've replied off list because I don't want to be inflammatory - I visited Jamies about volunteering and when I saw the prices they charged for kit it irked me!, also they had

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Andy Smith
Hi, On Sat, Mar 24, 2012 at 10:28:53AM +, Bryn Jones wrote: I failed miserably to reply off list Welcome to the list. Next time the subject of having the list set Reply-To comes up, please consider voting for do not set Reply-To. Cheers, Andy -- http://bitfolk.com/ -- No-nonsense VPS

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Sean Gibbins
On 24/03/12 10:28, Bryn Jones wrote: I failed miserably to reply off list This is true... but I think you got away with it Bryn! :-) Seriously, there was nothing too inflammatory in the last post and I agree with some of the points you made or alluded to regarding Jamies. I am guessing

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Vic
However, since it seems not, it's perhaps worth mentioning that the list has an association with Jamies that goes back many years, although we've not heard much about them of late save for the odd post that ends something like: If no one wants any of this kit it'll eventually find its way to

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Bryn Jones
This is similar to what I was alluding to. I in no way wish to put them down (that's not my place). I went there to offer my l33t skillz as a volunteer and came away feeling like what I just saw was a company that is defined as a social enterprise yet seems to be using volunteers to refurb

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Ally Biggs
Actually, the last few times I've tried to buy kit off them, I've failed to do so. They have recruited a new Sales Prevention Officer. I suspect the days of Jamies being a useful supplier are now past :-( An organisation that will not part with useless old tat to a customer with folding money in

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Bryn
I think I met you very briefly Ally (male Ally?). Whatever's been said here what Jamies are doing makes me happy (any recycling makes me happy!!!). Just not the things I've whinged about!!!. Bryn On 24/03/12 22:09, Ally Biggs wrote: Actually, the last few times I've tried to buy kit off

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread hantslug
Hi Bryn, As others have said, welcome to the list! On Saturday 24 March 2012 08:31:16 Sean Gibbins wrote: Not that it will necessarily present a problem, but just that you may find yourself in competition with them for donated kit. On the other hand you may find them to be a useful resource

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread hantslug
On Saturday 24 March 2012 21:25:57 Bryn Jones wrote: seems to be using volunteers to refurb machines they'd been given free to sell at inflated prices Last time I read the emails they used to send me, they were charging to accept the donated gear, and were acceepting only stuff that I find it

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread hantslug
On Saturday 24 March 2012 22:09:47 Ally Biggs wrote: It is my intention to setup a inventory of the kit we have at Jamies, especially the server / side of things previously this has been overlooked I was told there wasn't a market for this type of hardware not naming any names here we all know

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Bryn
On 24/03/12 23:22, hants...@googlemail.com wrote: On Saturday 24 March 2012 21:25:57 Bryn Jones wrote: seems to be using volunteers to refurb machines they'd been given free to sell at inflated prices Last time I read the emails they used to send me, they were charging to accept the donated

Re: [Hampshire] An introduction, a blag and well a bit of general chit chat

2012-03-24 Thread Ally Biggs
Well once I return to work I will try and give you guys more of a heads up of any interesting kit we have in, I am a bit worried though before I went off sick there was a pallet of Sun Microsystems gear I just hope it's still there when I get back and hasn't been junked. I agree with the