Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread Andy Random
Hi, Reviving this thread briefly, I'm surprised I've not seen any mention of the Palm Pre during it, it's even due out this month (though exclusive to 02) and generated quite a buzz when launched in the US earlier this year. Also has anybody seen a confirmed release date for the Nokia N900?

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread Philip Stubbs
2009/10/5 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Andy Random wrote: Reviving this thread briefly, I'm surprised I've not seen any mention of the Palm Pre during it, it's even due out this month (though exclusive to 02) and generated quite a buzz when launched

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread Hugo Mills
On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 02:05:55PM +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote: 2009/10/5 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Andy Random wrote: Reviving this thread briefly, I'm surprised I've not seen any mention of the Palm Pre during it, it's even due out this month

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread trotter
At 14:15 05/10/2009, you wrote: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 02:05:55PM +0100, Philip Stubbs wrote: 2009/10/5 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: On Mon, Oct 05, 2009 at 08:46:35AM -0400, Andy Random wrote: Reviving this thread briefly, I'm surprised I've not seen any mention of the Palm Pre

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread Bob Dunlop
On Mon, Oct 05 at 02:05, Philip Stubbs wrote: ... ? Not official, but Amazon seem to think October 19th. Or even the 26th. I'd got 21st in my head but can't remember where I got that from. The Nokia shop in Newbury (mobilephonesdirect) said late October. Play.com are sticking with the

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-10-05 Thread Andy Random
On Mon, 5 Oct 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: Not official, but Amazon seem to think October 19th. Or even the 26th. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Nokia-N900-Mobile-Computer-Software/dp/B002QEBX5E/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8s=electronicsqid=1254747786sr=8-1 So it's slipped a week since I last saw it. :)

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-26 Thread Hugo Mills
On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 12:00:17PM +0100, Alan Pope wrote: 2009/9/25 Chris Simmonds ch...@2net.co.uk: So, I stick by my original premise: the future of mobile devices is Linux. Which is a good thing. It is my hope that as time goes by they will become more open until we get to the point

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-26 Thread Alan Pope
2009/9/26 Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com: James Courtier-Dutton wrote: ... Conclusion: A 3G phone should still be able to fall back to do GSM based GPRS. Thanks for that James. Is GPRS unusably slow for things like GPS (where the relevant bit of map gets downloaded as you go)?

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-26 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
2009/9/25 Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com: One question, somewhat off-topic:  how well do these high-tech phones manage with accessing the internet over GPRS rather than 3G?  Vodafone's 3G coverage is pretty much absent out here in the frontier-land of the Hampshire/Dorset border: will

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-26 Thread Chris Dennis
Alan Pope wrote: 2009/9/26 Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com: James Courtier-Dutton wrote: ... Conclusion: A 3G phone should still be able to fall back to do GSM based GPRS. Thanks for that James. Is GPRS unusably slow for things like GPS (where the relevant bit of map gets downloaded

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-26 Thread trotter
At 16:25 26/09/2009, you wrote: 2009/9/26 Chris Dennis cgden...@btinternet.com: James Courtier-Dutton wrote: ... Conclusion: A 3G phone should still be able to fall back to do GSM based GPRS. Thanks for that James. Is GPRS unusably slow for things like GPS (where the relevant bit of

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread john lewis
On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 08:31:15 +0100 Keith Edmunds k...@midnighthax.com wrote: On Fri, 25 Sep 2009 05:46:24 +0100, l...@discoverlinux.co.uk said: The Android OS is excellent with plenty of good free apps to download which makes it far better than any other phone. That's very simplistic.

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/9/25 Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk: You missed the Nokia N900[1] running Maemo[2] also comming in October. Several suppliers are touting it with Vodafone/O2 contracts etc and theres a rumour that Vodafone may be supplying it direct. That's certainly on my wishlist, but would like to

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Bob Dunlop
Hi, On Fri, Sep 25 at 12:10, Chris Dennis wrote: ... Any thoughts about how LiMo compares with Android[4]? Or any of the other shiny toys that are 'coming soon'[5]? You missed the Nokia N900[1] running Maemo[2] also comming in October. Several suppliers are touting it with Vodafone/O2

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/9/25 Stephen Rowles step...@rowles.org.uk: showing some nice hacks as examples of the functionality that it has. It runs Firefox (Fennec) as a browser and I've seen a photo on the web of it running a root terminal so it should be easy to get access and configure / update it.

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Bell
Alan Pope wrote: 2009/9/25 Stephen Rowles step...@rowles.org.uk: showing some nice hacks as examples of the functionality that it has. It runs Firefox (Fennec) as a browser and I've seen a photo on the web of it running a root terminal so it should be easy to get access and configure /

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Hugo Mills
On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:00:09AM +0100, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Fri, Sep 25 at 12:10, Chris Dennis wrote: ... Any thoughts about how LiMo compares with Android[4]? Or any of the other shiny toys that are 'coming soon'[5]? You missed the Nokia N900[1] running Maemo[2] also comming

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Simmonds
On 25/09/09 00:10, Chris Dennis wrote: Hello Folks I've just stumbled across a news item[1] which mentions LiMo[2], apparently the first truly open, hardware-independent, Linux-based operating system for mobile devices. Vodafone have just announced a new phone that will run

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Dennis
Chris Simmonds wrote: Final comment: whether it is Android or not, the future of mobile devices is Linux. When you think about it, there are only a few options: Symbian (only for Nokia - who seem to be moving towards Linux anyhow - see the N900 and similar), Mac OS X (only for Apple - and

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Dennis
Hugo Mills wrote: On Fri, Sep 25, 2009 at 10:00:09AM +0100, Bob Dunlop wrote: Hi, On Fri, Sep 25 at 12:10, Chris Dennis wrote: ... Any thoughts about how LiMo compares with Android[4]? Or any of the other shiny toys that are 'coming soon'[5]? You missed the Nokia N900[1] running Maemo[2]

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Sean Gibbins
Chris Dennis wrote: Thanks for that, Hugo. One question, somewhat off-topic: how well do these high-tech phones manage with accessing the internet over GPRS rather than 3G? Vodafone's 3G coverage is pretty much absent out here in the frontier-land of the Hampshire/Dorset border: will

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Dennis
Sean Gibbins wrote: Chris Dennis wrote: Thanks for that, Hugo. One question, somewhat off-topic: how well do these high-tech phones manage with accessing the internet over GPRS rather than 3G? Vodafone's 3G coverage is pretty much absent out here in the frontier-land of the

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Sean Gibbins
Chris Dennis wrote: Sean Gibbins wrote: Chris Dennis wrote: Thanks for that, Hugo. One question, somewhat off-topic: how well do these high-tech phones manage with accessing the internet over GPRS rather than 3G? Vodafone's 3G coverage is pretty much absent out here in the

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Simmonds
Chris Dennis wrote: Chris Simmonds wrote: Final comment: whether it is Android or not, the future of mobile devices is Linux. When you think about it, there are only a few options: Symbian (only for Nokia - who seem to be moving towards Linux anyhow - see the N900 and similar), Mac OS X

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Alan Pope
2009/9/25 Chris Simmonds ch...@2net.co.uk: Final comment: whether it is Android or not, the future of mobile devices is Linux. When you think about it, there are only a few options: Symbian (only for Nokia - who seem to be moving towards Linux anyhow - see the N900 and similar), Mac OS X (only

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-25 Thread Chris Simmonds
Alan Pope wrote: 2009/9/25 Chris Simmonds ch...@2net.co.uk: Final comment: whether it is Android or not, the future of mobile devices is Linux. When you think about it, there are only a few options: Symbian (only for Nokia - who seem to be moving towards Linux anyhow - see the N900 and

[Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-24 Thread Chris Dennis
Hello Folks I've just stumbled across a news item[1] which mentions LiMo[2], apparently the first truly open, hardware-independent, Linux-based operating system for mobile devices. Vodafone have just announced a new phone that will run LiMo; their page[3] manages not to mention Linux at all,

Re: [Hampshire] New Linux-based phone

2009-09-24 Thread John Cooper
On 25/09/09 00:10, Chris Dennis wrote: Hello Folks I've just stumbled across a news item[1] which mentions LiMo[2], apparently the first truly open, hardware-independent, Linux-based operating system for mobile devices. Vodafone have just announced a new phone that will run LiMo; their