On 04/12/12 16:38, Mihai Badea wrote:
I reverted to KDE. I have 4.8.5 from Ubuntu 12.10 LTS.
Me, I've gone all Lubuntu 12.10 and am mightily relieved, having tried
the Unity thing for several months and never really felt comfortable
with it.
I considered Xubuntu as I'd used it previously, b
I reverted to KDE. I have 4.8.5 from Ubuntu 12.10 LTS.
It is stable and fast now, and works fine with or without desktop effects
(while Unity 2D is a disaster!).
I know it was always more been complex, but now it's also very intuitive
and straight-forward at a basic level.
Check-out the option now
** john lewis [2012-11-09 10:27]:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:37:24 +
> Gordon Scott wrote:
>
> > So now, for the moment at least, we've both reverted to Gnome.
> >
> > Personally I'll likely now switch to an fvwm set-up, which I always
> > preferred, only having changed to Gnome to 'go with
On 29 September 2012 17:15, Andy Smith wrote:
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:20:56AM +0100, john lewis wrote:
>> I am biased towards Debian as you all know and make no apologies for
>> promoting the "Debian Way"
Me also ! :)
>> A large majority of HantsLUG members were Debian users a few years
>>
On Fri, 09 Nov 2012 18:38:36 +
Gordon Scott wrote:
> I keep meaning to try a pen+tablet arrangement, but haven't yet done
> so. Memo to self..
>
> > CAD packages are unusually mouse-heavy, but also require
> > typing a fair few commands, so keeping the keyboard area clear is
> > impor
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 18:20 +, Tim Brocklehurst wrote:
> On Friday 09 Nov 2012 14:30:41 Gordon Scott wrote:
> > Those touchpoint things seem quite good for normal mouse work, any idea
> > if they're really workable for heavier graphics stuff, specifically
> > PCB-CAD, which is the time I have t
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 16:53 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 09/11/12 14:30, Gordon Scott wrote:
> > But I keep hitting my hand on the door whenever I try to change gear.
>
> Hah! I do that driving in the US too!
You have to start worrying about that in the US ..
They're all automatics over there, a
On Friday 09 Nov 2012 14:30:41 Gordon Scott wrote:
> Those touchpoint things seem quite good for normal mouse work, any idea
> if they're really workable for heavier graphics stuff, specifically
> PCB-CAD, which is the time I have to use it most, though some large
> cut-and-paste tasks can be as ba
On 09/11/12 14:30, Gordon Scott wrote:
I hadn't realised one could buy just the keyboard, I'd only noticed them
on laptops and a laptop is totally unworkable in my normal context.
I hadn't realised until a co-worker with the exact same laptop told me
about them. They're expensive for what the
Unity is awful, Gnome 2 or Mate is what I use.
Sent from my iPhone
On 8 Nov 2012, at 22:38, "Gordon Scott" wrote:
>
> It isn't just me.
>
> I've been trying to warm to Unity and had pretty much given up.
>
> I'd set-up my wife's account in Unity to see how a less computer-savvy person
> ge
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 13:04 +, Alan Pope wrote:
>
> I miss focus follows mouse, but not so much that I'd enable it on Unity :)
I use it fairly extensively and hate being without it .. on Windows, for
example.
> I have switched to a Lenovo Thinkpad keyboard with built in touchpoint
> (nippl
On 09/11/12 12:19, James Courtier-Dutton wrote:
On 9 November 2012 11:48, Alan Pope wrote:
Are you aware of the HUD? You press alt then search the menu rather than
peck through them with the mouse?
What, not use a mouseimpossible!! ;-)
See my last mail (I use a Lenovo keyboard now).
On 09/11/12 12:14, Gordon Scott wrote:
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 11:48 +, Alan Pope wrote:
On 08/11/12 22:37, Gordon Scott wrote:
For her also, menus on the screen top-bar were so counter-intuitive that
she thought they'd been removed.
Are you aware of the HUD? You press alt then search the
On 9 November 2012 11:48, Alan Pope wrote:
> Are you aware of the HUD? You press alt then search the menu rather than
> peck through them with the mouse?
>
What, not use a mouseimpossible!! ;-)
On another note, it would be useful if the HUD contained the short cut.
E.g.
Press ALT-F and it s
On Fri, 2012-11-09 at 11:48 +, Alan Pope wrote:
> On 08/11/12 22:37, Gordon Scott wrote:
> > For her also, menus on the screen top-bar were so counter-intuitive that
> > she thought they'd been removed.
> >
>
> Are you aware of the HUD? You press alt then search the menu rather than
> peck th
On 08/11/12 22:37, Gordon Scott wrote:
For her also, menus on the screen top-bar were so counter-intuitive that
she thought they'd been removed.
Are you aware of the HUD? You press alt then search the menu rather than
peck through them with the mouse?
Sorry Alan, but we both strongly disli
On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 22:37:24 +
Gordon Scott wrote:
> So now, for the moment at least, we've both reverted to Gnome.
>
> Personally I'll likely now switch to an fvwm set-up, which I always
> preferred, only having changed to Gnome to 'go with the flow'.
I am trying Enlightenment (e18) on m
On 09/11/12 07:27, Benjie Gillam wrote:
A few more data points:
My parents and uncle both find it confusing still after using it for a year.
The invisible menus are the biggest issue for them.
My wife who is a programmer (so a little more tech savvy ;) dislikes it and
finds the window groupin
I am starting to dislike Unity also now. It is not configurable enough.
For example, if you don't like the hidden menus, there should be a
setting to show them. Similar to the "auto hide" option on GNOME 2.
It should be easier to switch off features, like the dash amazon, but
on a global basis, so
A few more data points:
My parents and uncle both find it confusing still after using it for a year.
The invisible menus are the biggest issue for them.
My wife who is a programmer (so a little more tech savvy ;) dislikes it and
finds the window grouping to be annoying/frustrating and the tray
It isn't just me.
I've been trying to warm to Unity and had pretty much given up.
I'd set-up my wife's account in Unity to see how a less computer-savvy
person gets on with the interface.
She does just mail, web, and very occasional WP, so nothing special.
Today she rebelled and declared it
I've made some progress on the following, though it's a bit patchy...
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I get stuff grouped in a context-related way?
In the recent past, as an example, I have a menu from the toolbar
with top-level headings like "Graphics", "Programming"
On 07/10/12 16:45, Michael Pavling wrote:
In Unity, I open the home folder, click "file | connect to server",
then enter my authentication details. Once done, and the share (or
whatever sub-folder I want to have quick access to) is shown, I press
"crtl-d" to bookmark it, and then next time I ca
On 07/10/2012 15:47, Alan Pope wrote:
On 07/10/12 16:16, Gordon Scott wrote:
My struggle with Unity continues :-/
This is not really a Unity issue.
Um, OK, though as I say, it's there and working on gnome-fallback.
Michael's method of using the File menu appears to pop up the tool that
Gno
On 07/10/12 16:16, Gordon Scott wrote:
My struggle with Unity continues :-/
This is not really a Unity issue.
Can anyone tell me how to get a samba drive on my server mounted on my
new PC with Unity, such that I can write to it and so it mounts
automatically? Searches in the Dash for Samba,
On 7 October 2012 16:16, Gordon Scott wrote:
> My struggle with Unity continues :-/
>
> Can anyone tell me how to get a samba drive on my server mounted on my new
> PC with Unity, such that I can write to it and so it mounts automatically?
> Searches in the Dash for Samba, smb, map, mount, drive,
My struggle with Unity continues :-/
Can anyone tell me how to get a samba drive on my server mounted on my
new PC with Unity, such that I can write to it and so it mounts
automatically? Searches in the Dash for Samba, smb, map, mount, drive,
window, even nfs all come up with usually nothing,
On 02/10/12 23:18, Gordon Scott wrote:
On 02/10/12 16:06, Alan Pope wrote:
On 02/10/12 11:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
At this moment, Unity feels a little like Ubuntu
threw a grenade into the mix. Yes, I know it's been around a year or
so, but I ditched it back then as too profound a change. I'm
On 02/10/12 16:06, Alan Pope wrote:
On 02/10/12 11:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
At this moment, Unity feels a little like Ubuntu
threw a grenade into the mix. Yes, I know it's been around a year or
so, but I ditched it back then as too profound a change. I'm trying to
prepare for what seems presen
On Tuesday 02 October 2012 10:42:19 Gordon Scott wrote:
> On 01/10/2012 21:36, Alan Pope wrote:
> > On 01/10/12 21:32, Gordon Scott wrote:
> >> Can anyone say if 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04 would result in a
> >> default switch to Unity?
> >
> > It will.
>
> Frankly that is alarming, but also
Gordon,
Popey probably won't thank me, but the answer may be gnome-session-fallback
atop any Ubuntu/Unity, which will give you a Gnome-2-like desktop with all
the other benefits of the 12.x releases (of which there are many.
I've already gone to 12.10 on my two main machines - okay, the Beta is
st
Hi Gordon,
On 02/10/12 11:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
On 01/10/2012 21:36, Alan Pope wrote:
On 01/10/12 21:32, Gordon Scott wrote:
Can anyone say if 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04 would result in a
default switch to Unity?
It will.
Frankly that is alarming, but also as I suspected, and precis
On 01/10/2012 21:36, Alan Pope wrote:
On 01/10/12 21:32, Gordon Scott wrote:
Can anyone say if 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04 would result in a
default switch to Unity?
It will.
Frankly that is alarming, but also as I suspected, and precisely why I
have not upgraded.
Have you any idea how
> GNOME 2 is dead.
...And looking remarkably sprightly on my Fedora 16 laptop...
Vic.
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On 01/10/12 21:32, Gordon Scott wrote:
Can anyone say if 'upgrading' from 10.04 to 12.04 would result in a
default switch to Unity?
It will.
If it does, is it reasonably easy to get back to the previous
desktop?
GNOME 2 is dead. If you want to get something looking like your old
desktop t
On Mon, 2012-10-01 at 15:37 +0100, Peter Salisbury wrote:
> On 28 September 2012 10:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
> >
> does
> > what I ask with question, tantrums or flourishes.
That should, of course, have read 'without' as you realised.
> Me too - for me the only worthwhile eye-candy is window shad
On 28 September 2012 10:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
>
> I want a quiet, quick machine that does what I ask with question, tantrums
> or flourishes. My computers are tools, not special effects
> playgrounds.
I fully agree with those comments. I have very simple needs and Debian
has given me a system
On 28 September 2012 10:42, Gordon Scott wrote:
>
> Putting my present frustration with Unity into context, I'm a person who
> on first setting up any OS immediately turns off all the distractions
> from and obstructions to efficiency, like slide-out menus (I don't want
> to wait for those .. I wa
On 30/09/12 11:07, alan c wrote:
On 29/09/12 08:20, john lewis wrote:
Some like Alan went over lock stock and barrel;-)
Moi?
If referring to moi, then yes, the same techniques worked when I wanted
to escape from Windows(!) which was a brutal and painful period, even
though I had been using se
On Sun, 30 Sep 2012 11:07:19 +0100
alan c wrote:
> On 29/09/12 08:20, john lewis wrote:
> > Some like Alan went over lock stock and barrel;-)
>
> Moi?
Non! Monsieur Pope
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On 30/09/12 10:08, Tony Whitmore wrote:
On 29/09/12 08:20, john lewis wrote:
I am biased towards Debian as you all know and make no apologies for
promoting the "Debian Way" A large majority of HantsLUG members were
Debian users a few years back but for some reason chose to go with the
new kid on
On 29/09/12 08:20, john lewis wrote:
Some like Alan went over lock stock and barrel;-)
Moi?
If referring to moi, then yes, the same techniques worked when I
wanted to escape from Windows(!) which was a brutal and painful
period, even though I had been using several cross platform programs
f
On 29/09/12 08:20, john lewis wrote:
I am biased towards Debian as you all know and make no apologies for
promoting the "Debian Way" A large majority of HantsLUG members were
Debian users a few years back but for some reason chose to go with the
new kid on the block.
I moved my laptop (and soon
On Sat, 29 Sep 2012 11:45:19 +
Andy Smith wrote:
> Hello,
>
> On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:20:56AM +0100, john lewis wrote:
> > Apple have always adopted the attitude that their way of doing
> > things is the only way and make it very difficult if not impossible
> > to reconfigure the look of
Hello,
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 08:20:56AM +0100, john lewis wrote:
> Apple have always adopted the attitude that their way of doing things
> is the only way and make it very difficult if not impossible to
> reconfigure the look of their OS. Is that now the route Canonical
> are going to follow?
>
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 23:22:45 +0100
Alan Pope wrote:
> On 28/09/12 22:27, john lewis wrote:
> > OK, I had no idea such a thing existed, I have never installed any
> > version of *buntu on any system I have owned and never actually seen
> > it running on any computer. My only knowledge of that dist
On 28/09/12 22:27, john lewis wrote:
OK, I had no idea such a thing existed, I have never installed any
version of *buntu on any system I have owned and never actually seen
it running on any computer. My only knowledge of that distro is from
the complaints of unhappy users.
"I know nothing bu
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 18:45:57 +0100
alan c wrote:
> > many people disliked Gnome3 too but the developers listened to the
> > complaints and there is now an option to use Classic Mode, at least
> > there is when running Debian.
> >
> > Hint! Hint! ;-)
>
> Just install 'myunity'
> and when logging
On 28/09/12 16:08, john lewis wrote:
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:43:32 +
Gordon Scott wrote:
I may well give it a try, though part of this was to try and tolerate
Unity as it's Ubuntu's default environment.
An awful lot of people seem to dislike Unity, though, so it may just
fade away.
many p
On Fri, 28 Sep 2012 14:43:32 +
Gordon Scott wrote:
> I may well give it a try, though part of this was to try and tolerate
> Unity as it's Ubuntu's default environment.
> An awful lot of people seem to dislike Unity, though, so it may just
> fade away.
many people disliked Gnome3 too but t
On 28/09/2012 10:05, Simon Reap wrote:
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I get stuff grouped in a context-related way?
In the recent past, as an example, I have a menu from the toolbar
with top-level headings like "Graphics", "Programming" and so on.
Right now I find
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I get stuff grouped in a context-related way?
In the recent past, as an example, I have a menu from the toolbar
with top-level headings like "Graphics", "Programming" and so on.
Right now I find nothing like that on Unity, but I feel s
Hi Alan,
On Fri, 2012-09-28 at 09:40 +0100, alan c wrote:
> On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
> > How can I get stuff grouped in a context-related way?
> >In the recent past, as an example, I have a menu from the toolbar
> >with top-level headings like "Graphics", "Programming
On 28/09/12 10:00, alan c wrote:
On 27/09/12 19:52, Jack Knight wrote:
As it happens, after I discovered some love for Unity, popey posted this:
http://youtu.be/xA9EHaNc2VI
Which for me added the icing on the cake. Enjoy.
+1
+1
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On 27/09/12 19:52, Jack Knight wrote:
As it happens, after I discovered some love for Unity, popey posted this:
http://youtu.be/xA9EHaNc2VI
Which for me added the icing on the cake. Enjoy.
+1
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On 27/09/12 22:32, Gordon Scott wrote:
I thought it searched for 'function related' things. It seems to with
'player', as it finds a number of applications that are players, e.g.,
Timidity++.
It found nothing for 'transparency', nothing for 'glass', nothing for
'jpeg' and nothing for a number of
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I get stuff grouped in a context-related way?
In the recent past, as an example, I have a menu from the toolbar
with top-level headings like "Graphics", "Programming" and so on.
1)Dash
2) click on Apps (lens??) [the icon at the bottom
Hi Alan,
Well that helps a bit, thanks, though I'm still stuck on a number of these.
On 27/09/12 19:41, Alan Pope wrote:
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I turn off transparency on the Dash?
I hate transparency at the best of times, but the Dash
seems particularly hard
On 27 September 2012 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
> Hi Guys,
>
> I'm trying Unity in an attempt to get to work sensibly with it, but at
> present it's driving me mad.
>
> Hopefully someone can please help me deal with some of the worst
> irritations before I throw the whole thing out. I've been web
On 27/09/12 19:27, Gordon Scott wrote:
How can I turn off transparency on the Dash?
I hate transparency at the best of times, but the Dash
seems particularly hard to read. Much of the time it's
hard to tell what's on the Dash and what's on the window behind it.
Install Compiz Con
Hi Guys,
I'm trying Unity in an attempt to get to work sensibly with it, but at
present it's driving me mad.
Hopefully someone can please help me deal with some of the worst
irritations before I throw the whole thing out. I've been web searching,
but can't yet find answer to any of this.
H
Alan Pope [2012-07-15 12:14] wrote:
I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop.
Some of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback
welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI
This is similar to the Ubuntu 12.04 presentation that Alan rehearsed to
th
** Alan Pope [2012-07-15 12:14]:
> I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop.
> Some of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback
> welcome.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI
** end quote [Alan Pope]
Handy, a few tips that I'd missed, although a n
On 15/07/12 12:15, Alan Pope wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop.
> Some of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback welcome.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI
>
> Cheers,
Thank you
Will certainly check it out
L
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On Sun, 2012-07-15 at 12:15 +0100, Alan Pope wrote:
> Hey,
>
> I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop. Some
> of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback welcome.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI
>
> Cheers,
Hi Alan,
Thanks for making and
Hey,
I finally got around to making a simple intro to the Unity desktop. Some
of you may find it useful for other new users. Feedback welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xA9EHaNc2VI
Cheers,
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