Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-31 Thread Victor Churchill
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Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-27 Thread Anton Piatek
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Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-27 Thread Vic
Could you be any more blunt about this? Indeed I could. As a rule, I reply with a similar tone to the one I received. And that is why I responded in the way I did. Vic. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-27 Thread Benjie Gillam
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Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 25 January 2012 09:04, Bob Dunlop bob.dun...@xyzzy.org.uk wrote: Hi, On Tue, Jan 24 at 06:15, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Does anyone have experience of both ntp and ptp ? Use NTP all the time and am planning to move to PTP for some deployments in the near future.  What are your actual

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread Gordon Scott
On Wed, 2012-01-25 at 09:43 +, James Courtier-Dutton wrote: My requirement is more of an experiment really. I would like to have ethernet connected speakers. (with a mini PC between ethernet and speaker) So, if you have two speakers that are separated, each being fed by the TCP/IP

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 25 January 2012 12:36, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: Currently, to get the output of the two speakers synchronized, I would need each mini-PC to be well time synced together. This is a problem that has been solved in the MPEG Transport Stream. No it is not. The mpeg lip sync is only for the

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread Vic
This is a problem that has been solved in the MPEG Transport Stream. No it is not. Yes it is. The mpeg lip sync is only for the video and audio being processed in a single box. It's also used for things like SCTE35 insertion points. The timestamp system is used in many places through the

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 25 January 2012 13:49, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: This is a problem that has been solved in the MPEG Transport Stream. No it is not. Yes it is. The mpeg lip sync is only for the video and audio being processed in a single box. It's also used for things like SCTE35 insertion points.

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread Vic
I thought that only worked when transmitted over a serial link, i.e. ATM or DVB. You thought wrong. It is not so effective on packet based links such as Ethernet. All headend distribution systems these days are Ethernet-based. It is incredibly effective. I have never heard of those

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-25 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
On 25 January 2012 15:37, Vic l...@beer.org.uk wrote: I thought that only worked when transmitted over a serial link, i.e. ATM or DVB. You thought wrong. It is not so effective on packet based links such as Ethernet. All headend distribution systems these days are Ethernet-based. It is

[Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-24 Thread James Courtier-Dutton
Hi, Does anyone have experience of both ntp and ptp ? Which is likely to be better (keep them synced to the best accuracy and lowest variance) at syncing three PCs on a LAN without a switch that supports ptp? My understanding is that in order for ptp to be better than ntp, the network switch has

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-24 Thread Ian Grody
On Tuesday 24 January 2012 18:15:06 James Courtier-Dutton wrote: Hi, Does anyone have experience of both ntp and ptp ? Which is likely to be better (keep them synced to the best accuracy and lowest variance) at syncing three PCs on a LAN without a switch that supports ptp? My understanding

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-24 Thread Ian Grody
Hi again, Did a little bit of reading and a simple test.. For software only PTP, you are probably better off with NTP. For hardware assisted PTP, only the NIC's have to support timestamping. Most Intel gigabit controllers do (IGP driver). I did run a couple of little tests in a pure virtual

Re: [Hampshire] ntpd vs. ptpd

2012-01-24 Thread Vic
you are probably better off with NTP. it pretty much depends on the requirements. If you need the precision of ptp, nothing else will do. This particularly applies when you have asymmetric network lag and need really accurate time. For everything else, ntp is trivial to set up, and works just