Re: [Hampshire] Clearout At Jamies
On Monday 10 August 2009 12:01:23 Ally Biggs wrote: Hi Guys. Thought I would give you all the heads up, I'm basically clearing the decks at Jamies I have quite alot of Network gear which I thought you guys may be interested in. I have various switches, Hubs, 1U Servers I also have quite alot of Xeon IBM Eservers, I also have a stack load of SCSI hard disk sizes range from 10Gb - 70Gb, stack loads of NIC's a shed loads of Pentium 3 based hardware if anyone is interested in putting together a cluster. I also have a laptop kvm if anyone is interested I thought it was pretty kool, ( laptop that fits into a server cabinet allowing you to administrate servers) I also have about 30 ThinTune Thin client Computers, They come with 30MB Compact flash adapters could make a interesting project for somebody. If anyone is interested in any kit or has a speacial request feel free to contact me I will be able to anwser wether or not we have the item in stock and I will be able to offer you a good price. Alternatively you can see what I have listed on ebay by searching for jamiescomputers Many Thanks Alastair Biggs I.T Technician Jamies Computers 02380 632198 _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Hi Alastair Is there any other place I can find a list of parts like available memory modules?? Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Clearout At Jamies
If you are after server ram I have a bucket load 512MB ECC DDR 266Mhz CL2.5 I would be willing to do business at £5 a stick so 2gig for £20. Many Thanks Ally From: xendis...@gmx.com To: hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 12:19:27 +0100 Subject: Re: [Hampshire] Clearout At Jamies On Monday 10 August 2009 12:01:23 Ally Biggs wrote: Hi Guys. Thought I would give you all the heads up, I'm basically clearing the decks at Jamies I have quite alot of Network gear which I thought you guys may be interested in. I have various switches, Hubs, 1U Servers I also have quite alot of Xeon IBM Eservers, I also have a stack load of SCSI hard disk sizes range from 10Gb - 70Gb, stack loads of NIC's a shed loads of Pentium 3 based hardware if anyone is interested in putting together a cluster. I also have a laptop kvm if anyone is interested I thought it was pretty kool, ( laptop that fits into a server cabinet allowing you to administrate servers) I also have about 30 ThinTune Thin client Computers, They come with 30MB Compact flash adapters could make a interesting project for somebody. If anyone is interested in any kit or has a speacial request feel free to contact me I will be able to anwser wether or not we have the item in stock and I will be able to offer you a good price. Alternatively you can see what I have listed on ebay by searching for jamiescomputers Many Thanks Alastair Biggs I.T Technician Jamies Computers 02380 632198 _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/ Hi Alastair Is there any other place I can find a list of parts like available memory modules?? Tim -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- _ Windows Live Messenger: Happy 10-Year Anniversary—get free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/-- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Replicating directory tree and filenames
I want to replicate a huge (multiple TBs) directory tree such that the replica has the same files, same GIDs/UIDs as the original, same paths, but with all the files 0 bytes. In other words, copy the directory and file structure but not the data. It feels as if this should be easy to do, but I haven't thought of an easy way yet... Keith -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Replicating directory tree and filenames
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:00:14PM +0100, Keith Edmunds wrote: I want to replicate a huge (multiple TBs) directory tree such that the replica has the same files, same GIDs/UIDs as the original, same paths, but with all the files 0 bytes. In other words, copy the directory and file structure but not the data. It feels as if this should be easy to do, but I haven't thought of an easy way yet... I'm assuming that your terabytes of stuff consists of a large (1e6 or so) number of smallish files, rather than a few large files. I can think of a couple of ways of doing this via some bash scripts, but doing it purely in bash is going to involve invoking at least one external application per file, and you'll have to swallow a relatively large overhead for process initialisation each time. So, for performance reasons, I'd suggest doing it all in something a bit more capable. My (sketch) attempt in python is below. It won't copy fifos, sockets, or links (hard or soft), and won't handle infinite link recursion at all well, but should do what you want provided you have a fairly sane and boring filesystem with mostly just files and directories. It's untested, so use at your peril. Hugo. #!/usr/bin/python import os import os.path def process_dir(oldroot, path, newroot): for name in os.listdir(path): newpath = os.path.join(path, name) srcname = os.path.join(oldroot, newpath) destname = os.path.join(newroot, newpath) st = os.stat(fullname) if stat.S_ISDIR(st.st_mode): os.mkdir(destname, st.st_mode) os.chown(destname, st.st_uid, st.st_gid) process_dir(oldroot, newpath, newroot) elif stat.S_ISREG(st.st_mode): f = open(destname, w) f.close() os.chmod(destname, st.st_mode) os.chown(destname, st.st_uid, st.st_gid) else: print destname, has unhandled mode, st.st_mode process_dir(/path/to/source, , /path_to_destination) -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Eighth Army Push Bottles Up Germans -- WWII newspaper --- headline (possibly apocryphal) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Replicating directory tree and filenames
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:21:53PM +0100, Hugo Mills wrote: On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:00:14PM +0100, Keith Edmunds wrote: I want to replicate a huge (multiple TBs) directory tree such that the replica has the same files, same GIDs/UIDs as the original, same paths, but with all the files 0 bytes. In other words, copy the directory and file structure but not the data. It feels as if this should be easy to do, but I haven't thought of an easy way yet... I'm assuming that your terabytes of stuff consists of a large (1e6 or so) number of smallish files, rather than a few large files. I can think of a couple of ways of doing this via some bash scripts, but doing it purely in bash is going to involve invoking at least one external application per file, and you'll have to swallow a relatively large overhead for process initialisation each time. So, for performance reasons, I'd suggest doing it all in something a bit more capable. For the record, one (icky) way of doing it with just the shell would be something like: find -type d | for d in $(cat); do stat -c mkdir -m %f dest/$d; chown %u:%g dest/$d $d done | bash find -type f | for f in $(cat); do stat -c touch dest/$f; chmod %f dest/$f; chown %u:%g dest/$f $f done | bash There's other ways, for example: find -type d | for d in $(cat); do MODE=$(stat -c %f $d) OWNER=$(stat -c %u:%g $d) mkdir -m $MODE dest/$d chown $OWNER dest/$d done ... but this has two extra invocations of bash and an extra invocation of stat per file, which is going to slow you down. If you have the inclination, I'd be interested to know what the overheads involved are, and how it compares to the python code I sketched out earlier. Note that none of the above will cleanly handle filenames with whitespace in, and you should probably be using -print0 on the find commands, double quotes around all the filename substitution, and IFS=$'\0'. Oh, and I've ignored fifos, sockets, devices and links again. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- Eighth Army Push Bottles Up Germans -- WWII newspaper --- headline (possibly apocryphal) signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
Hi, I have had a couple of drives fail recently and need to RMA them back to Seagate. They insist [0] that all disks returned are packed first in those transparent plastic seashell/clamshell things. Don't suppose anyone has a couple spare, or know where I can get a couple el-cheapo do they? I seem to have foolishly thrown mine away. Cheers, Al. [0] http://www.seagate.com/support/service/pdf/pack.pdf - page 5 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 02:52:52PM +, Alan Pope wrote: I have had a couple of drives fail recently and need to RMA them back to Seagate. They insist [0] that all disks returned are packed first in those transparent plastic seashell/clamshell things. Don't suppose anyone has a couple spare, or know where I can get a couple el-cheapo do they? I seem to have foolishly thrown mine away. I may have one or two for 3.5 drives. I'll look when I get home tonight. Hugo. [0] http://www.seagate.com/support/service/pdf/pack.pdf - page 5 Page 3 states seashell or ESD bag... -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- My karma has run over my dogma. --- signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
2009/8/10 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: I may have one or two for 3.5 drives. I'll look when I get home tonight. Thanks. [0] http://www.seagate.com/support/service/pdf/pack.pdf - page 5 Page 3 states seashell or ESD bag... I kinda thought that was a cover-all as in the multi-boxes says use an anti-static bag, but in the bit about single drives on page 5 it seems to explicitly want to use those clam things. Cheers, Al. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Alan Pope wrote: I have had a couple of drives fail recently and need to RMA them back to Seagate. They insist [0] that all disks returned are packed first in those transparent plastic seashell/clamshell things. Interesting, I've returned a dozen drives to Seagate this year and none of them have been returned in anything other than an anti-static bag and bubble wrap. Don't suppose anyone has a couple spare, or know where I can get a couple el-cheapo do they? I seem to have foolishly thrown mine away. If I understand correctly what you are talking about I have one on my desk, I might be able to find another if I have a scavenge but no promises. However considering my standard rate (plus the usual Popey surcharge) for providing such things it will probably be cheaper to buy new disks :) Andy P.S. The one on my desk is Samsung branded as we stopped buying Seagate drives some time ago. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] [Fwd: Re: [Surrey] Linux hardware development was: What do YOU want Surrey LUG to be?]
As requested by Robert Original Message Subject: Re: [Surrey] Linux hardware development was: What do YOU want Surrey LUG to be? Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 17:22:29 +0200 From: robert.beat...@nokia.com Reply-To: General Linux/Unix community List sur...@mailman.lug.org.uk To: sur...@mailman.lug.org.uk References: 5dfb50ad0908090302v56c82f5md7611ec1d208b...@mail.gmail.com 20090809125719.48518...@thebeerfamily.com 1249913824.31204.1329110...@webmail.messagingengine.com open big mouth My interest is hardware and interfacing. If there are those of you wishing to do research into this area then I can make some Nokia facilities available to the group. (I'm sure my managers would be keen to see the use of Linux and homebrew hardware since we do like innovation here, especially if released into the public domain, though I will require there OK to do this so the idea is provisional for now.) We have on-site : Static mats and straps so that work surfaces are free of those nasty ESD zaps which kill electronics. Soldering irons and fume filters. (For the real hardcore HW people) Electronic CAD. (Schematic entry on Mentor and PCB layout on Zuken CR5000 which I can drive for you.) ...and during office hours only : Prototyping hardware. (Basically a milling machine. Can do double sided designs and create fine circuits tracks) Assembly for those hard to mount devices, but device complexity is limited by the milling machine process. ...we cannot do : Tin plating of circuit boards because people moaned about 'dangerous' chemicals. Gold plating because someone stole the Gold bars !! Only joking !! Same reason as Tin plating. I'll speak to one of our PCB suppliers to see what the cost is for Gold immersion plating. Should be cheap. (Edge connectors for boards; ISA PCI etc) humour For my first design I'm going to do a 16 LED indicator for my Amiga500 using AutoConfig. Steve D, I might need your help for this one mate. /humour /open big mouth I don't see why this cannot be combined with BaB days in the first instance. Comments ??? Can someone also post this to the Hants group. Bob. -- Bob Beattie Senior Technical Support Engineer Camera Development Systems, Series40, Nokia Southwood, UK +44 (0)1252 866452 Internal : 845 6452 -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Replicating directory tree and filenames
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 15:21:53 +0100, h...@carfax.org.uk said: My (sketch) attempt in python is below. Hugo, thanks for that, I may well base what I do on that. Appreciate you taking the time to sketch it out. Keith -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 04:16:31PM +0100, Alan Pope wrote: 2009/8/10 Hugo Mills h...@carfax.org.uk: I may have one or two for 3.5 drives. I'll look when I get home tonight. Thanks. It would appear, on inspection, that I'm as profligate with original packaging as you. Sorry. Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- You can't expect a boy to be depraved until he's gone to --- a good school. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: It would appear, on inspection, that I'm as profligate with original packaging as you. Sorry. Excellent! That means I've cornered the market and can charge what I like :) Popey contact me off list if you want to negotiate... Andy -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, Aug 10, 2009 at 03:12:53PM -0400, Andy Random wrote: On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: It would appear, on inspection, that I'm as profligate with original packaging as you. Sorry. Excellent! That means I've cornered the market and can charge what I like :) Popey contact me off list if you want to negotiate... How about you hand over the packaging, and he doesn't put the MP3s of the tapes up on his blog? Hugo. -- === Hugo Mills: h...@... carfax.org.uk | darksatanic.net | lug.org.uk === PGP key: 515C238D from wwwkeys.eu.pgp.net or http://www.carfax.org.uk --- You can't expect a boy to be depraved until he's gone to --- a good school. signature.asc Description: Digital signature -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Anyone got any 'SeaShell' drive packing?
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009, Hugo Mills wrote: Popey contact me off list if you want to negotiate... How about you hand over the packaging, and he doesn't put the MP3s of the tapes up on his blog? Ooo E Ok, ok I know when I'm beaten! Andy -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Clearout At Jamies
Alastair, You might be just the man to help me... Do you have any ram (PC 2100R 2.5v 133MHz DDR ECC) for an IBM X335 (2.4GHz twin Xeon e-series) I'm looking for 4x 1GB or better ideally. Also, no promises, but what spec are the Xeon e-series servers? Cheers, Tim B. On Mon, August 10, 2009 12:01 pm, Ally Biggs wrote: Hi Guys. Thought I would give you all the heads up, I'm basically clearing the decks at Jamies I have quite alot of Network gear which I thought you guys may be interested in. I have various switches, Hubs, 1U Servers I also have quite alot of Xeon IBM Eservers, I also have a stack load of SCSI hard disk sizes range from 10Gb - 70Gb, stack loads of NIC's a shed loads of Pentium 3 based hardware if anyone is interested in putting together a cluster. I also have a laptop kvm if anyone is interested I thought it was pretty kool, ( laptop that fits into a server cabinet allowing you to administrate servers) I also have about 30 ThinTune Thin client Computers, They come with 30MB Compact flash adapters could make a interesting project for somebody. If anyone is interested in any kit or has a speacial request feel free to contact me I will be able to anwser wether or not we have the item in stock and I will be able to offer you a good price. Alternatively you can see what I have listed on ebay by searching for jamiescomputers Many Thanks Alastair Biggs I.T Technician Jamies Computers 02380 632198 _ Windows Live Messenger: Celebrate 10 amazing years with free winks and emoticons. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/157562755/direct/01/-- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- OpenPilot - Open-source Marine Chart Plotter Lead Developer http://openpilot.sourceforge.net -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton linux
john wrote: Hi All I could not resist the itch to say something. More than once the use of Microsoft software has save my bacon. I have the greatest respect for the windows system provided it has no contact with the Internet. I have seen well [...] As you may be aware, one reason to use a foss alternative to Windows is not in any way a technical nor a functional reason. There are strong social, economic and even political (small p I think) reasons, mostly associated with freedom - of choice and of information. The freedoms are arguably worth something. Many people have engaged in countless conflicts over the ages in the name of their freedom in different forms. The convenient option or even the best technical or functional option, may not always offer the best long term option in light of the consequences. An Engineering viewpoint seeks to eliminate factors other than technical ones. Freedom is not an engineering factor. -- alan cocks Ubuntu user -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] pcworld southampton linux
On Mon, 10 Aug 2009 13:26:50 +0100 Stephen Pelc step...@mpeforth.com wrote: I've never seen a Linux desktop to compare with OSX in any of its forms. Then you haven't seen baghira. http://baghira.sourceforge.net/screenies.php Vic. If you lock down Linux to a limited amount of packages and charge £1000 to £2000 a box you will very quickly match OSX for looks and usability. But Linux isn't locked down, you are free to choose what the GUI looks like and what distro/packages you install. The EEE PC has shown how easy it is to get Linux usable for the masses and at £250. Imagine what it would be like at £2000! OSX is a great OS and GUI but it is expensive and limited compared to Linux and its vast number of applications. John. -- -- Discover Linux - Open Source Solutions to Business and Schools http://discoverlinux.co.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
