[Hampshire] [OT] Networking course
Hi all Can anyone recommend a (preferred) distance learning course on networking / telecomms? I simply can't find anything at the OU that fits the bill - if anyone knows a good one please let me know. Please excuse the rather wooly question but allow me to explain... I'm not enjoying my Computing degree much at the moment - too much object oriented programming. Recently however I've become a bit more interested in networks and possibly even telecomms. Everything I know about networking I've taught myself through largely trial, error and a lot of googling. I know a bit - but not enough to configure an ipcop firewall with any certainty I've got it right. Now, with a bit of time on my hands for once, I'd like to study networking properly. I'm loathe to just buy a book and read it (unless someone can suggest something really good). Obviously for playing / testing I'd like to use Linux so can anyone recommend something. The only references I have are Hacking Exposed and Firewalls for Dummies but I'm not really enjoying using that - perhaps I'm beyond Dummy! Cheers Rob -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Networking course
On Sunday 19 June 2011 12:15:23 Rob Malpass wrote: Can anyone recommend a (preferred) distance learning course on networking / telecomms? I simply can't find anything at the OU that fits the bill - if anyone knows a good one please let me know. http://www.ftacademy.org/courses/modules/3 I don't know how good it is, but I suspect that the admin may be adequate rather than brilliant. I have done the basic Linux course and it was really hard work! (I mean that as a definite complement!) I did a level one ten point Linux course with the OU and was bitterly disappointed. Not only was the admin rather a shambles, but the standard of the course was abysmal and the teaching was non-existent. The Linux course at the FTA was really stretching. It is meant to be post-graduate and I reckon that it was - anyhow as just a step up course to let you do the advanced Linux. The other students were all way ahead of me - and everyone struggled sometimes. I don't know how rigidly they enforce the post-graduate bit. I'll ask on the student portal for some feed-back on the network course if you would like me to. I know that at least two of those on my course had done it already. The text books are all open source, so are readily available. But the actual courses are at a higher level. The course text book is just the jumping-off platform! Lisi -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Networking course
Hey Rob, On Sunday 19 June 2011 12:15:23 Rob Malpass wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a (preferred) distance learning course on networking / telecomms? I simply can't find anything at the OU that fits the bill - if anyone knows a good one please let me know. Please excuse the rather wooly question but allow me to explain... The OpenUniversity do offer CCNA and like courses (Cisco network certification). If that doesn't fit the bill, try http://www.openstudycollege.com - Look for CompTIA courses, Networking+ etc. Not cheap, usually, but damned good courses. I'm not enjoying my Computing degree much at the moment - too much object oriented programming. Recently however I've become a bit more interested in networks and possibly even telecomms. Everything I know about networking I've taught myself through largely trial, error and a lot of googling. I know a bit - but not enough to configure an ipcop firewall with any certainty I've got it right. Now, with a bit of time on my hands for once, I'd like to study networking properly. I'm loathe to just buy a book and read it (unless someone can suggest something really good). Two good books I enjoyed were Kevin Mitnick - William L. Simon, Art of Intrusion Art of Deception - Which more teaches of the social element of computer/network (in)security. O'reilly do some good reads too, TCP/IP Network administration 3rd edition, Network Security Assessment and Network Security Hacks 2nd Edition. Getting books to learn up on IPv6 might be of benefit, especially if this new IP is going to be seen and heard more of in upcoming years. Obviously for playing / testing I'd like to use Linux so can anyone recommend something. The only references I have are Hacking Exposed and Firewalls for Dummies but I'm not really enjoying using that - perhaps I'm beyond Dummy! BSD are excellent systems if you want to gear at networking. Linux is too, for some, but I find the raw networking abilities of BSD systems far superior to linux. OpenBSD is as raw as you get, FreeBSD is the simplest of them. NetBSD is more for the funky architects. Cheers Rob G'luck, Ian -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] [OT] Networking course
On 19 June 2011 12:15, Rob Malpass li...@getiton.myzen.co.uk wrote: Hi all Can anyone recommend a (preferred) distance learning course on networking / telecomms? I simply can't find anything at the OU that fits the bill - if anyone knows a good one please let me know. Please excuse the rather wooly question but allow me to explain... I'm not enjoying my Computing degree much at the moment - too much object oriented programming. Recently however I've become a bit more interested in networks and possibly even telecomms. Everything I know about networking I've taught myself through largely trial, error and a lot of googling. I know a bit - but not enough to configure an ipcop firewall with any certainty I've got it right. Now, with a bit of time on my hands for once, I'd like to study networking properly. I'm loathe to just buy a book and read it (unless someone can suggest something really good). Obviously for playing / testing I'd like to use Linux so can anyone recommend something. The only references I have are Hacking Exposed and Firewalls for Dummies but I'm not really enjoying using that - perhaps I'm beyond Dummy! Why not just read all the RFCs? ;-) Rather a lot to read. http://www.ietf.org/rfc.html http://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc-index2.html Only 6000 documents to read! They are the reference standard for all TCP/IP networking protocols. -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Screen
On Sunday 19 Jun 2011 16:50:58 Anton Piatek wrote: I feel like a n00b for not knowing this, but does anyone know if/how I can script a screen session to launch multiple apps? Yes. Ideally laying each out in its own window in the same screen session. Yes. I do this all the time by creating screenrc files with instructions for each screen in them. That way when I logon to a box I just start screen and it starts one screen with a bash session (the default) one with mutt and one with SSH to another box. It even gives them nice names. Somewhere in the .screenrc file put something like: screen -t Rouge 0 screen -t Mutt 1 mutt screen -t Bleu 2 ssh -A lapin-bleu The -t means title if the status bar The number is the screen session and the bit at the end is the command to run, type nothing and you get your default shell. Does this help? -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK A feature is a bug with seniority. -- anon -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Screen
On Sunday 19 Jun 2011 17:08:50 Anton Piatek wrote: That looks exactly like what I want! Any way of splitting the screen session into windows so when I attach I can see all 3 at once by default? Probably but I've not done it, I use it full screen. However if someone else on the list knows I'd like to know too. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK This would of course be likely to trigger a real constitutional crisis, but as this Government has done so much to destroy the constitution already, it seems only reasonable for other people to be allowed to join in. -- John Lettice, The Register 2006-01-17 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
[Hampshire] Screen
I feel like a n00b for not knowing this, but does anyone know if/how I can script a screen session to launch multiple apps? Ideally laying each out in its own window in the same screen session. Anton -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
Re: [Hampshire] Screen
Hi All Firsty, just to say I'm new to the Hampshire LUG as of today, in a nutshell I'm a 15-year Linux veteran who lives in Chineham, near Basingstoke and my distro of choice is Gentoo Linux. On the core question, has anyone looked at Terminator yet for multiple terminal session working? http://www.tenshu.net/terminator/ I read about it in Linux magazine a couple of months ago but not got around to trying it yet - though have used screen for a couple of years. Regards Peter Andrijeczko On 19 June 2011 17:39, Adam John Trickett adam.trick...@iredale.net wrote: On Sunday 19 Jun 2011 17:08:50 Anton Piatek wrote: That looks exactly like what I want! Any way of splitting the screen session into windows so when I attach I can see all 3 at once by default? Probably but I've not done it, I use it full screen. However if someone else on the list knows I'd like to know too. -- Adam Trickett Overton, HANTS, UK This would of course be likely to trigger a real constitutional crisis, but as this Government has done so much to destroy the constitution already, it seems only reasonable for other people to be allowed to join in. -- John Lettice, The Register 2006-01-17 -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk -- -- Please post to: Hampshire@mailman.lug.org.uk Web Interface: https://mailman.lug.org.uk/mailman/listinfo/hampshire LUG URL: http://www.hantslug.org.uk --
