Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and was 
selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our conversation 
so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what started now.


John C.


Begin forwarded message:

From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885

David,

I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of some 
people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please disregard my 
post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging information posted 
isn't more credible with investigation being done first, not just to post.

At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a question 
instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my post please!


John C.


On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren 
<shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:

Hi John:

Certainly, I don’t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul…more using 
a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore the 
cumulative wisdom of other dx’ers.

I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was already 
out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a wasted 
effort.

73,

David





On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS 
<broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:

I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you should 
check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and fair thing 
to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to flame anyone!

Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this 
station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in 
better after Summer.


John C.


On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren 
<shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:

Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer per 
Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have been 
sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was done as 
well.

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS 
<broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:

BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a easy 
regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in 
Pennsylvania report it frequently.

With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality 
always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is one of 
the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and hearing at a 
Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter and Spring 
without fail.

It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal catch. 
I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked them about 
transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. That way 
suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.


John Cooper
Lebanon, Pa

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