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Today's Topics:
1. Re: [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
(Wolfgang Bueschel)
2. Re: [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
(Wolfgang Bueschel)
3. Fwd: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 (WHO DARES WINS)
4. Re: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
5. Re: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 (david goren)
6. Re: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 (Arthur Delibert)
7. Re: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885 (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
8. Re: [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
(Wolfgang Bueschel)
9. 5952 Emisoras Pio XII (Paul B. Walker, Jr.)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:36:18 +0200
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" <dg1...@t-online.de>
To: <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, "DXLD" <d...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
Message-ID: <C23F379E78494C6A867C0CE780A3AACC@HNPC2>
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At 1933 UT NOTHING heard from RHC Bauta Cuba island on scheduled
15140 nor 15370 kHz. 73 wb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" >
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
> CUBA 15140 RHC La Habana Bauta heard in Arabic around 1828 UT and
> further more French like 'Creole language' at S=9+20dB signal level,
> tremendous signal broadband 40 ! kHz,
> wideband 15120 to 15160 kHz,
> in peaks heard in Rochester NY and Edmonton Alberta remote SDR units.
>
> But suddenly 18.36 TX BREAK DOWN totally, no Cuban signal anymore,
> only co-channel Radio Oman in Arabic heard 'underneath'
> at S=4-5 level til 19 UT...
>
> Others in 19 mb at same 18-19 UT time slot:
>
> 15300 RFI ISS S=5
> 15315 R Sawtu Fulfulle ISS S=5
> 15390 REE Spanish S=4-5
> 15400 BBC En ASC S=4-5
> 15510 IBRA R via WOF S=4
> 15520 REE Spanish, stronger at S=7 level.
> 15555.245-usb peak, WJHR usb mode S=6-7 signal
> 15580 VoA BOT En S=7
> 15610 USA EWTN S=9+25dB strongest signal in 19mb
> 15700 VoA Lampertheim Amharic S=5
> 15710 tiny, probably WHRI threshold level ??? or spur ?
> 15785 VoA Amharic WOF S=4
> 15825 WWCR S=8
> 73 wb
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Bueschel"
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:01 PM
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>
>
> CUBA 11760 non-directional antenna outlet of RHC Spanish via Bauta bcast
> center on air, Monday Sept 11 at 1745 UT, S=7-8 in MI and Rochester NY in
> eastern US remote SDRs,
> and also noted at S=8-9 level in Edmonton Canada Alberta noted.
>
> A lot of 'cronistas reportajes desde el pueblo Cubanos' per telephone
> line
> in 1730-1800 UT.
> Guitar music + canciones male singer + female singer group at 1753 UT.
>
> At 17.57:18 UT break down in transmission, OFF air.
>
> 73 wb
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "l...@unb.ca [dxld]" >
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 7:30 PM
> Subject: [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>
>> CUBA. 6165, Sept 11 at 0501, erroneous RHC English frequency is off,
>> having been on at last check 0215. Now, NO other Cuban transmitters are
>> to be heard: 6145, 6100, 6060, 6000, 5040, 5025. At 1247, no 5025, nor
>> 6000, 6060, 6100, nor any on 9, 11, 13 and 15 MHz bands.
>> CRI relay 9570 off, uncovering a JBA algo, presumably KBSWR in
>> Indonesian. At 1421, 13740 CRI English relay is also off.
>>
>> "When will any Cubans make a comeback? RHC website is replete with news
>> about the hurricane, but nothing about RHC itself being off the air, or
>> exactly what damage it sustained: http://radiohc.cu/
>>
>> "[and non]. Meanwhile, Radio Mart? is loud and clear, 7365 at 0503, no
>> jamming. 7405 is open carrier at 1245, but programming by 1249, and 9805
>> VG too with lite jamming (Glenn Hauser, OK, DX LISTENING DIGEST)
>>
>> BBC is reporting that electricity is out across Havana.
>> Status of the OCB Radio Mart? transmitter on 1180 kHz in Marathon on
>> Vaca Key?
>>
>> -- Richard Langley
------------------------------
Message: 2
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 21:53:20 +0200
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" <dg1...@t-online.de>
To: <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, "DXLD" <d...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
Message-ID: <B8DDA6D3796E4B7D97F6FD63D9454CEC@HNPC2>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8";
reply-type=original
Now at 1947 UT when checked again, 15140 kHz RHC Bauta in English on air,
local artists program and artists opera culture and museum reports, S=9+25dB
excellent strong, but 40 kHz wideband again on 15120 to 15160 kHz.
Nothing heard on 15370 kHz. 73 wb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" <dg1...@t-online.de>
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
> At 1933 UT NOTHING heard from RHC Bauta Cuba island on scheduled
> 15140 nor 15370 kHz. 73 wb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" >
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>
>> CUBA 15140 RHC La Habana Bauta heard in Arabic around 1828 UT and
>> further more French like 'Creole language' at S=9+20dB signal level,
>> tremendous signal broadband 40 ! kHz,
>> wideband 15120 to 15160 kHz,
>> in peaks heard in Rochester NY and Edmonton Alberta remote SDR units.
>>
>> But suddenly 18.36 TX BREAK DOWN totally, no Cuban signal anymore,
>> only co-channel Radio Oman in Arabic heard 'underneath'
>> at S=4-5 level til 19 UT... 73 wb
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wolfgang Bueschel"
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>>
>> CUBA 11760 non-directional antenna outlet of RHC Spanish via Bauta bcast
>> center on air, Monday Sept 11 at 1745 UT, S=7-8 in MI and Rochester NY in
>> eastern US remote SDRs,
>> and also noted at S=8-9 level in Edmonton Canada Alberta noted.
>>
>> A lot of 'cronistas reportajes desde el pueblo Cubanos' per telephone
>> line in 1730-1800 UT.
>> Guitar music + canciones male singer + female singer group at 1753 UT.
>>
>> At 17.57:18 UT break down in transmission, OFF air.
>> 73 wb
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:50:09 +0000
From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com>
To: "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: [HCDX] Fwd: Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
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Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and was
selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our conversation
so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what started now.
John C.
Begin forwarded message:
From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
David,
I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of some
people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please disregard my
post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging information posted
isn't more credible with investigation being done first, not just to post.
At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a question
instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my post please!
John C.
On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren
<shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
Hi John:
Certainly, I don?t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul?more using
a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore the
cumulative wisdom of other dx?ers.
I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was already
out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a wasted
effort.
73,
David
On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS
<broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you should
check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and fair thing
to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to flame anyone!
Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this
station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in
better after Summer.
John C.
On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren
<shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer per
Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have been
sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was done as
well.
Sent from my iPhone
On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS
<broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a easy
regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in
Pennsylvania report it frequently.
With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality
always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is one of
the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and hearing at a
Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter and Spring
without fail.
It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal catch.
I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked them about
transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. That way
suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.
John Cooper
Lebanon, Pa
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 20:57:46 +0000
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
To: coffee_canuck <coffeecan...@gmail.com>,
"hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
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My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing more
nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a
log months Ago? I don't think so!
I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm power
level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my
homework... I am just waiting to hear back
I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air
and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of and
something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive.
If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or
insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear.
I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a
DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter shacks
and knows many engineers
Paul
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com> wrote:
> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and
> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our
> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what
> started now.
>
>
> John C.
>
>
> Begin forwarded message:
>
> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
>
> David,
>
> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of
> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please
> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging
> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done first,
> not just to post.
>
> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a
> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my
> post please!
>
>
> John C.
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>
> Hi John:
>
> Certainly, I don?t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul?more
> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore
> the cumulative wisdom of other dx?ers.
>
> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was
> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a
> wasted effort.
>
> 73,
>
> David
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you
> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and
> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to
> flame anyone!
>
> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this
> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in
> better after Summer.
>
>
> John C.
>
>
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>
> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer
> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have
> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was
> done as well.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>
> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a
> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in
> Pennsylvania report it frequently.
>
> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality
> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is
> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and
> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter
> and Spring without fail.
>
> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal
> catch. I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked
> them about transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. That
> way suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.
>
>
> John Cooper
> Lebanon, Pa
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 17:37:31 -0400
From: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com>
To: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
Cc: "hard-core...@hard-core-dx.coma" <Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
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> On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing more
> nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a
> log months Ago? I don't think so!
Paul, nobody?s trying to run you down. The point I was trying make is that in
this listening community observations like this are constantly noted and
therefore eminently searchable. When I saw your original post I just googled
?Clube Do Para off air 4885? and found several mentions right away. It?s fine
to go with your gut, but you?re not listening in a vacuum. We?re listening
along with you and the data is often findable.
>
> I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm power
> level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my
> homework... I am just waiting to hear back
>
> I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air
> and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of and
> something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive.
>
> If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or
> insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear.
>
> I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a
> DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter shacks
> and knows many engineers
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and
>> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our
>> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what
>> started now.
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
>> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
>> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of
>> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please
>> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging
>> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done first,
>> not just to post.
>>
>> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a
>> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my
>> post please!
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
>> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John:
>>
>> Certainly, I don?t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul?more
>> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore
>> the cumulative wisdom of other dx?ers.
>>
>> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was
>> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a
>> wasted effort.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
>> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you
>> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and
>> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to
>> flame anyone!
>>
>> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this
>> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in
>> better after Summer.
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
>> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer
>> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have
>> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was
>> done as well.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
>> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a
>> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in
>> Pennsylvania report it frequently.
>>
>> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality
>> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is
>> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and
>> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter
>> and Spring without fail.
>>
>> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal
>> catch. I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked
>> them about transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. That
>> way suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.
>>
>>
>> John Cooper
>> Lebanon, Pa
>>
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 23:02:13 +0000
From: Arthur Delibert <radio7...@msn.com>
To: "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
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I agree with Colin: We should make newcomers feel welcome to this hobby, young
or old or in-between, and we should encourage their observations and thoughts.
That?s how we all learned. To me, the trick is how to take advantage of a
teachable moment without it feeling like a put-down. I don?t claim any great
insights on that subject, but I do think about it when I respond to a post,
even if I don?t always get it right.
Thanks.
Art Delibert
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To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.<mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
Cc: hard-core...@hard-core-dx.coma<mailto:Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
> On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr.
> <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing more
> nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a
> log months Ago? I don't think so!
Paul, nobody?s trying to run you down. The point I was trying make is that in
this listening community observations like this are constantly noted and
therefore eminently searchable. When I saw your original post I just googled
?Clube Do Para off air 4885? and found several mentions right away. It?s fine
to go with your gut, but you?re not listening in a vacuum. We?re listening
along with you and the data is often findable.
>
> I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm power
> level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my
> homework... I am just waiting to hear back
>
> I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air
> and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of and
> something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive.
>
> If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or
> insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear.
>
> I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a
> DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter shacks
> and knows many engineers
>
> Paul
>
> On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com> wrote:
>
>> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message, and
>> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our
>> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's what
>> started now.
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
>> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
>> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
>> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
>>
>> David,
>>
>> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of
>> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please
>> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging
>> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done first,
>> not just to post.
>>
>> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a
>> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please disregard my
>> post please!
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
>> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi John:
>>
>> Certainly, I don?t think you were being intentionally unfair to Paul?more
>> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and ignore
>> the cumulative wisdom of other dx?ers.
>>
>> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was
>> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No doubt a
>> wasted effort.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> David
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
>> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you
>> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional and
>> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying to
>> flame anyone!
>>
>> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of this
>> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come in
>> better after Summer.
>>
>>
>> John C.
>>
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:
>> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
>>
>> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer
>> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They have
>> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance was
>> done as well.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:
>> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
>>
>> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has been a
>> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in
>> Pennsylvania report it frequently.
>>
>> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception quality
>> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is
>> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and
>> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall, Winter
>> and Spring without fail.
>>
>> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal
>> catch. I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and asked
>> them about transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply. That
>> way suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.
>>
>>
>> John Cooper
>> Lebanon, Pa
>>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 19:17:47 -0400
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
To: Arthur Delibert <radio7...@msn.com>
Cc: "hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com" <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
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And I myself havent always been the smoothest or most helpful to people
even newer to the hobby either, but I try. For 2KW, to have Armchair like
copy up here, I'm quite impressed, regardless of anything else
On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 7:02 PM, Arthur Delibert <radio7...@msn.com> wrote:
> I agree with Colin: We should make newcomers feel welcome to this hobby,
> young or old or in-between, and we should encourage their observations and
> thoughts. That?s how we all learned. To me, the trick is how to take
> advantage of a teachable moment without it feeling like a put-down. I
> don?t claim any great insights on that subject, but I do think about it
> when I respond to a post, even if I don?t always get it right.
>
> Thanks.
>
> Art Delibert
>
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> From: david goren<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 5:37 PM
> To: Paul B. Walker, Jr.<mailto:walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
> Cc: hard-core...@hard-core-dx.coma<mailto:Hard-Core-DX@hard-core-dx.com>
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
>
>
> > On Sep 11, 2017, at 4:57 PM, Paul B. Walker, Jr. <
> walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > My statement was an educated guess based upon observations. Nothing
> more
> > nothing less. And now I'm expected to remember something Glenn put in a
> > log months Ago? I don't think so!
>
> Paul, nobody?s trying to run you down. The point I was trying make is that
> in this listening community observations like this are constantly noted and
> therefore eminently searchable. When I saw your original post I just
> googled ?Clube Do Para off air 4885? and found several mentions right away.
> It?s fine to go with your gut, but you?re not listening in a vacuum. We?re
> listening along with you and the data is often findable.
>
> >
> > I sent a letter to the station and asked a few questions, to confirm
> power
> > level and off air/air status and improvements recently so I *DID* do my
> > homework... I am just waiting to hear back
> >
> > I have some expierience and knowledge of broadcasting, both in the on air
> > and technical Side of the business. Something most DXers have none of
> and
> > something Glenn hasn't had in decades, longer then I've been alive.
> >
> > If I am making a negative insinuation or assumption about a station or
> > insulting them, you'll know... trust me. I'll make that clear.
> >
> > I make an EDUCATED guess based about my limited few years experience as a
> > DXer and my decade plus as a broadcaster who's seen many transmitter
> shacks
> > and knows many engineers
> >
> > Paul
> >
> > On Mon, Sep 11, 2017 at 4:50 PM WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Since you refused to honor my request to not post my original message,
> and
> >> was selective in what you did post, how about you post the rest of our
> >> conversation so I'm not made out to be attacking Poor Paul as that's
> what
> >> started now.
> >>
> >>
> >> John C.
> >>
> >>
> >> Begin forwarded message:
> >>
> >> From: WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com<mailto:broadwin...@msn.com>>
> >> Date: September 11, 2017 at 11:31:58 AM EDT
> >> To: david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<mailto:shortwaveol...@mac.com>>
> >> Subject: Re: [HCDX] Report on Radio Clube do Para 4885
> >>
> >> David,
> >>
> >> I agree completely but there's no subtle way of getting the attention of
> >> some people other than being direct. Like I stated previously, please
> >> disregard my post about 4885. It's just a shame that certain logging
> >> information posted isn't more credible with investigation being done
> first,
> >> not just to post.
> >>
> >> At least Glen H., and other DXers do their homework first or ask a
> >> question instead of making unfounded statements. Again, please
> disregard my
> >> post please!
> >>
> >>
> >> John C.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 11:13 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<
> mailto:
> >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi John:
> >>
> >> Certainly, I don?t think you were being intentionally unfair to
> Paul?more
> >> using a figure of speech. He does frequently jump to conclusions and
> ignore
> >> the cumulative wisdom of other dx?ers.
> >>
> >> I was hoping to send a subtle message to Paul that this information was
> >> already out there, through sources that he disdains like Glenn. No
> doubt a
> >> wasted effort.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >>
> >> David
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:52 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com
> <mailto:
> >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> I wasn't trying to be unfair but if your making statements perhaps you
> >> should check with the station first? That sounds like the professional
> and
> >> fair thing to do before making statements without fact? I'm not trying
> to
> >> flame anyone!
> >>
> >> Disregard my previous post re: 4885. My post was made on reception of
> this
> >> station I personally have picked up as seasonally they have always come
> in
> >> better after Summer.
> >>
> >>
> >> John C.
> >>
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:42 AM, david goren <shortwaveol...@mac.com<
> mailto:
> >> shortwaveol...@mac.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Well to be fair to Paul, Clube do Para was off air earlier in the summer
> >> per Glenn Hauser and other reports due to an ownership dispute. They
> have
> >> been sounding better than in recent years so perhaps some maintenance
> was
> >> done as well.
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On Sep 11, 2017, at 10:34 AM, WHO DARES WINS <broadwin...@msn.com
> <mailto:
> >> broadwin...@msn.com>> wrote:
> >>
> >> BRAZIL. Radio Clube do Para, 4885, Belem, in Portuguese, is and has
> been a
> >> easy regular DX daily catch in South Central, Pa., and other SW DXers in
> >> Pennsylvania report it frequently.
> >>
> >> With the change over in seasons from Sumner to Fall, the reception
> quality
> >> always has increased during the past years I've listened for them. It is
> >> one of the Tropical Band stations you can always depend on DXing and
> >> hearing at a Poor-Fair level in the Summer to Fair-Good in the Fall,
> Winter
> >> and Spring without fail.
> >>
> >> It's been reported daily, weekly, and monthly in SW blogs as a normal
> >> catch. I'm sure if you contacted the station via their web page and
> asked
> >> them about transmitter upgrades they would be more than glad to reply.
> That
> >> way suppositions would not be needed to be posted without firm evidence.
> >>
> >>
> >> John Cooper
> >> Lebanon, Pa
> >>
> >> _
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> >>
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> >> and/or modified under the conditions set down in the Design Science
> License
> >> published by Michael Stutz at
> >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/dsl.html
> >>
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 12 Sep 2017 01:52:11 +0200
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" <dg1...@t-online.de>
To: <hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>, "DXLD" <d...@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
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Checked in remote SDR units at Rochester NY, and Edmonton Alberta CAN.
2100-0400 7340 BEJ 050 / 110 SoAm Spanish, 2320 UT nil
2100-0500 9535 BEJ 100 / 230 CeAm Spanish, 2322 UT nil
2100-0500 11840 QVC 250 / 170 SoAm Spanish, S=9+20dB 2325UT low modulated
2100-0200 11760 BAU 100 / n-d NCAm Spanish, S=9+25dB 2323UT
40 kHz broadband (seemingly same unit of previous 15140 kHz outlet tonight)
2100-0400 13740 BAU 100 / 160 SoAm Spanish, 2326 UT nil
2300-2330 15730 BEJ 050 / 135 SoAm Creole , 2327UT nil
2330-2400 15730 BEJ 050 / 135 SoAm Portuguese, 2338UT nil
2300-0400 11670 BAU 100 / 130 SoAm Spanish, 2328UT nil
2300-2400 11880 BAU 100 / 100 SoAf English, 2329UT nil
2300-2400 11950 BAU 100 / 340 WNAm Spanish, S=9+20dB 2330 UT
Mon-Thur "Mesa Redonda", 14 kHz wideband signal.
2300-0500 15230 QVC 250 / 160 SoAm Spanish, S=9+15dB 2332UT low modulated
83 and 263 degrees CT2/1/0.8
2100-2400 5040 BAU 100 / n-d Cuba Spanish,
2315UT Spanish, S=9 in Rochester NY-US, S=9+10dB 2344UT
Transmitter sites:
BAU=Bauta
BEJ=Bejucal
QVC=Titan-Quivican San Felipe.
Shortwave schedule of Radio Rebelde
2300-2400 5025 BAU 100 / non-dir to Ce&SoAm
2317UT Spanish, S=9 in Rochester NY-US,
2345UT S=9+10dB stronger modulated than 5040 kHz
Shortwave schedule of Radio Progreso
2330-0300 4765 BEJ 050 / non-dir to Cuba / Caribbean Spanish,
2320 and 2340 UT nil
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel"
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:53 PM
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
Now at 1947 UT when checked again, 15140 kHz RHC Bauta in English on air,
local artists program and artists opera culture and museum reports, S=9+25dB
excellent strong, but 40 kHz wideband again on 15120 to 15160 kHz.
Nothing heard on 15370 kHz. 73 wb
----- Original Message -----
From: "Wolfgang Bueschel"
Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:36 PM
Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
> At 1933 UT NOTHING heard from RHC Bauta Cuba island on scheduled
> 15140 nor 15370 kHz. 73 wb
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Wolfgang Bueschel" >
> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 9:03 PM
> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>
>> CUBA 15140 RHC La Habana Bauta heard in Arabic around 1828 UT and
>> further more French like 'Creole language' at S=9+20dB signal level,
>> tremendous signal broadband 40 ! kHz,
>> wideband 15120 to 15160 kHz,
>> in peaks heard in Rochester NY and Edmonton Alberta remote SDR units.
>>
>> But suddenly 18.36 TX BREAK DOWN totally, no Cuban signal anymore,
>> only co-channel Radio Oman in Arabic heard 'underneath'
>> at S=4-5 level til 19 UT... 73 wb
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Wolfgang Bueschel"
>> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2017 8:01 PM
>> Subject: Re: [HCDX] [dxld] Re: Glenn Hauser logs, September 11, 2017
>>
>> CUBA 11760 non-directional antenna outlet of RHC Spanish via Bauta bcast
>> center on air, Monday Sept 11 at 1745 UT, S=7-8 in MI and Rochester NY in
>> eastern US remote SDRs,
>> and also noted at S=8-9 level in Edmonton Canada Alberta noted.
>>
>> A lot of 'cronistas reportajes desde el pueblo Cubanos' per telephone
>> line in 1730-1800 UT.
>> Guitar music + canciones male singer + female singer group at 1753 UT.
>>
>> At 17.57:18 UT break down in transmission, OFF air.
>> 73 wb
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 11 Sep 2017 22:21:01 -0400
From: "Paul B. Walker, Jr." <walkerbroadcast...@gmail.com>
To: Hard-Core-DX <Hard-core-dx@hard-core-dx.com>,
primetimeshortw...@yahoogroups.com, worldbandra...@yahoogroups.com,
Short-Wave radio Listening <s...@mailman.qth.net>,
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Subject: [HCDX] 5952 Emisoras Pio XII
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Actually, closer to 5952.45 0200-0205 UTC September 12, with what sounded
like the end of a program and some kind of pre-recorded announcement
followed by a male talking. Recording some audio and will review it later
tonight or tomorrow.
they're listed as being on 5952, but generally a friend and I find them at
5952.45 but we've also seem them drift closed to 5952.4 and 5952.5
Paul Walker
Warren, Pennsylvania
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