Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-19 Thread K.S. Bhaskar
The new GT.M is upward compatible - an option is added to allow existing null subscripts and prohibit new ones. Nothing has been taken away, and the previous options remain, to permit or prohibit (the default behavior) null subscripts. Nancy Anthracite wrote: Are you using the new GTM? As I

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-11 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
A patch with a number ending in Tnn (where 'nn' is some number) is a test patch. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] And the end of all our exploring will be to arrive where we started And know the place for the first time -- T.S. Eliot On Jul 10, 2005, at 10:50 PM, Anna Joseph wrote:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-11 Thread James Gray
to essentially be line art. Jim Gray - Original Message - From: Nancy Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:39 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! I think

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-11 Thread JohnLeo Zimmer
Thurman Pedigo wrote: This story IS legend, reported over and over. My recollections it made headlines when it occurred - not that long ago. Not an urban legend but LEGENDARY (and one of the forces behind the FDA's entry into the software as medical device arena) Some of the most widely cited

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-10 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! I think the issue here is patient safety for medical DEVICES. I was griping about this issue to a friend of mine who works in IT in a hospital

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-10 Thread Anna Joseph
: Saturday, July 09, 2005 1:36 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! OK, here is what is in the VA Demo: OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: OPTION// INSTALL(5894 entries) Select INSTALL NAME: MAG 1 MAG 2.5T11 Install Completed 10/16/[EMAIL

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! It's not quite so absurd, though, when you consider that MUMPS is traditionally interpreted, and if you change the code on the system where it is intended to run, then you are effectively

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
I can't argue with that. My point was that on a system where the software really is being used for medical imaging, you don't want people tinkering with the code. Of course, that brings up another question: Why would anyone want to use this code to handle things like scanned documents?

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Joseph Dal Molin
...the real issue IMHO is that the scanning functionality has been held hostage by the FDA issue...if the sledge hammer works then why not use it or make it into something more appropriatebut no one will do it with the perceived threat of the FDA Police descending upon them. Perhaps all

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
But if you just want to store scanned images, why don't you use something like Apache? What's the point of the added overhead (and expense) of using a system designed for medical imaging? === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add,

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I think the point of using some of the imaging software is that when patches are applied to VistA, it would seem less likely to step on any scanning solution installed if the imaging routines used to retrieve documents from a server and link them to a patient were used to retrieve these scanned

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! ...the real issue IMHO is that the scanning functionality has been held hostage by the FDA issue...if the sledge hammer works then why not use it or make it into something more appropriatebut no one will do it with the perceived threat

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Write a module. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] A hero is no braver than an ordinary man, but he is brave five minutes longer. -- Ralph Waldo Emerson On Jul 9, 2005, at 3:37 PM, Thurman Pedigo wrote: t would be nice to have a convenient interface with FM/CPRS. Does Apache do that?

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I would say that with what is going on right now, we need a workaround, soon. So if the purist in you can be suppressed for a bit, perhaps you would like to suggest one? ;-) BTW Thurman, I too use Paperport, but I would love a nice seamless link to VistA and CPRS. I have thought of barcoding

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Exactly! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:30 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:30 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! BTW Thurman, I too use Paperport, but I would love a nice seamless

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 5:30 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! BTW

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:hardhats- [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Thurman Pedigo Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 7:23 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Don't think you are missing

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Nancy Anthracite
To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Don't think you are missing anything. What we need is someway to link a patient, ideally a visit, to a server that contains pdf files, so that that clicking

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jargon for plain old text (of arbitrary length). There is a choice between word wrap and no word wrap, and some rudimentary formatting capabilities, but very little. I think Nancy is right that if you do use OCR to produce a text file, you'd

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Ruben Safir
On Sat, 2005-07-09 at 22:53, Gregory Woodhouse wrote: Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jargon for plain old text (of arbitrary length). There is a choice between word wrap and no word wrap, and some rudimentary formatting capabilities, but very little. OK :) Ruben I

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
Woodhouse Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 8:53 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Actually, word processing (WP) is just Fileman jargon for plain old text (of arbitrary length). There is a choice

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
My assumption (perhaps wrong) was that depending on Imaging to do this was causing problems for you. FWIW, if I were to try and design an independent solution, I'd do something like this: 1. Create a new SCANNED DOCUMENT file. 2. I assume you want to associate documents with patients, and

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Thurman Pedigo
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! My assumption (perhaps wrong) was that depending on Imaging to do this was causing problems for you. FWIW, if I were to try and design an independent solution, I'd do something like this: 1. Create

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Then again, RTF is just text, too. I keep thinking I should learn RTF, but haven't been terribly enthusiastic about it. :-| BTW, I have used WP fields to store XML, and at least one major Delphi application I've seen and used makes extensive use of XSLT. So, if you were really ambitious

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I think the issue here is patient safety for medical DEVICES. I was griping about this issue to a friend of mine who works in IT in a hospital. He is familiar with the FDA regulations. He told me a story that gave me some perspective. Perhaps its an urban legand, but I don't think so. At

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
This is exactly what I have done. Kevin --- Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you just use Apache as a web server, then basically all you need is a Delphi component capable of retrieving a document via HTTP, and I can't believe that such a thing doesn't already exist

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-09 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
My method is to take the URL, wrap it in the bare minimum to identify itself as a web page, and store it as a standard document. When CPRS retrieves the note, it scans the note and if it finds an HTML header, then instead of displaying it in a Memo field (the Delphi term), instead, it passes it

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Anna Joseph
, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Can you run ED^MAGUSIT ? On Thursday 07 July 2005 11:26 pm, Anna Joseph wrote: I've have re-indexed the OPTIONS file with no problem this time. But, I still cannot find the 'define Imaging

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
08, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Can you run ED^MAGUSIT ? On Thursday 07 July 2005 11:26 pm, Anna Joseph wrote: I've have re-indexed the OPTIONS file with no problem this time. But, I still cannot find the 'define

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Anthracite [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 9:41 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Can you run ED^MAGUSIT ? On Thursday 07 July 2005 11:26 pm, Anna Joseph wrote

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Jim Self
I have that routine with the same two first lines in a test installation of the VA Demo OpenVista with no additional patches installed and the routine is included in an older OpenVistA but the second line indicates an older version; ;;2.5;IMAGING;**1**;June 29, 2001 Anna's error in typing the

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Nancy Anthracite
OK, here is what is in the VA Demo: OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: OPTION// INSTALL(5894 entries) Select INSTALL NAME: MAG 1 MAG 2.5T11 Install Completed 10/16/[EMAIL PROTECTED]:41:41 = VistA Imaging v2.5t11L ;Created on Oct 16, [EMAIL PROTECTED]:51:14 2 MAG*3.0*1

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
on how you use it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jim Self Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 12:02 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! I have

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-08 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
It's not quite so absurd, though, when you consider that MUMPS is traditionally interpreted, and if you change the code on the system where it is intended to run, then you are effectively modifying the executable. It's not just a matter of making a copy of the source code and saying Don't

[Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Anna Joseph
This is to inquire as to wheather the Open VistA Semiviva 4.0, which we are presently using, has the 'Define Imaging site paramaters option'. As per the documentation i have gone thru (IMAGING SYSTEM INSTALLATION GUIDE ), the MAG SYS MENU is supposed to have'Define Imaging site paramaters

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Nancy Anthracite
I looked in the option file in the VA Demo and both of those options are listed. GTMD Q^DI VA FileMan 22.0 Select OPTION: 5 INQUIRE TO FILE ENTRIES OUTPUT FROM WHAT FILE: RPC BROKER SITE PARAMETERS// OPTION 1 OPTION (10126 entries) 2 OPTION

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Thurman Pedigo
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nancy Anthracite Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 7:27 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! I looked in the option file in the VA Demo and both of those options are listed

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
It might not be there, but it's also possible that there is a problem with the B cross-reference. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Education is a progressive discovery of our own ignorance. --Will Durant On Jul 7, 2005, at 9:25 AM, Thurman Pedigo wrote: Interesting: Select OPTION:

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Come to think of it, it might not be just that one cross-reference, given that the case may also be an issue (mixed case and all caps are indexed separately). In any case, why don't you re-index the file and try again. (File 19 is not like file 2, it's not one of the files that can't

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Thurman Pedigo
, 2005 12:31 PM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! It might not be there, but it's also possible that there is a problem with the B cross-reference. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
Is the parameter defined in your kernel parameters file? You may very well be missing a patch, and since it's Imaging, and Imaging isn't part of the standard FOIA release (and it depends on a commercial product to work), the parameter and its supporting options may very well not be

RE: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Cameron Schlehuber
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! Is the parameter defined in your kernel parameters file? You may very well be missing a patch, and since it's Imaging, and Imaging isn't part of the standard FOIA release (and it depends on a commercial

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Gregory Woodhouse
If that's the case, you could try a SEARCH of file 19 to see if the missing option is really missing. Do you know the actual name (.01 field) of the option? Also, you should check to see if the parameter is defined. === Gregory Woodhouse [EMAIL PROTECTED] The most incomprehensible thing

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Anna Joseph
: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! If that's the case, you could try a SEARCH of file 19 to see if the missing option is really missing. Do you know the actual name (.01 field) of the option? Also, you should

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Anna Joseph
] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! That's what I get to see in the options file. Even the number of options I have are less (as compared to Nancy's 10126 entries). Guess

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Nancy Anthracite
@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 3:50 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! If that's the case, you could try a SEARCH of file 19 to see if the missing option is really missing. Do you know the actual name (.01 field

Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!!

2005-07-07 Thread Nancy Anthracite
option??? Anna - Original Message - From: Anna Joseph [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Friday, July 08, 2005 8:19 AM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] Can't find 'Define Imaging site paramaters option' !!! That's what I get to see in the options file