Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-16 Thread steven mcphelan
that is not an inpatient. - Original Message - From: Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ? I would appreciate more detailed discussion on this point if possible

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Kreis
Kevin, you have gained good insights into VistA through your dogged exploration of it. Other systems built on a relational database likely have business rules that are not in the database itself, so the business logic is important for maintaining the tables properly. Just going in with a

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-16 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
that is not an inpatient. - Original Message - From: Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ? I would appreciate more detailed discussion on this point

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-16 Thread Marianne Susaanti Follingstad
oran -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of steven mcphelan Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:53 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "~" ? This "^" wri

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-16 Thread Greg Woodhouse
. I do not know the consequences of putting a value in this field for a patient that is not an inpatient. - Original Message - From: Jim Self [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:07 PM Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-15 Thread steven mcphelan
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? I suspect something else must be going on. I tried setting the write protection to ^ (BTW, you can do this because the field sits by itself on a global node in the DD) and, sure enough, DUZ(0)=@ does trump ^, just as Marianne

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-15 Thread Jim Self
I would appreciate more detailed discussion on this point if possible. It would seem from what you write that such fields cannot be properly edited from the Fileman DBS API. If so, that would seem to present a severe impediment to any attempts to put a more modern general database driven user

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-15 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
It seems to me that VistA is not just a database, with secondarily important routines to adjust that data. Instead, it seems that it is both. Thus this locked database field is not supposed to be altered except through the proper channels (the program code.) So it may well be problematic trying

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ~ ?

2005-02-15 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Since this seems to be a new issue for Kevin and he has been crawling around in VistA for a while now, is this sort of field not rare as hen's teeth? I would think that some internal policy in the VA might be responsible for locking up this field. For instance, perhaps they did not want

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Stephen; Then that sounds like the loading of this field is programatic (data loaded at the time of the action being recorded) and doesn't use Fileman to Fill the field. That would keep most users (except

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Kreis
iate data updates and linkages. tjh -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Richardson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:34 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "^&

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
urceforge.netSubject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of "^" ? BUFFER ERROR That should have been 'it is a way', not 'it was a want'. If only I could keep my typing buffer in sync with my thinking buffer ;-)Greg Kreis wrote: Has this been changed? It used

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Woodhouse
Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Stephen; Then that sounds like the loading of this field is programatic (data loaded at the time of the action being recorded) and doesn't use Fileman to Fill the field. That would keep most users (except

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Woodhouse
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Richardson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:34 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Stephen; Then that sounds like the loading of this field is programatic (data loaded

RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Holloway, Thomas (EDS)
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Greg Woodhouse Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:58 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: RE: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Does this trick offer any advantages over using the Uneditable Data option

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-14 Thread Greg Woodhouse
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris Richardson Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 2:34 AM To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Stephen; Then that sounds like the loading of this field

[Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
Hello all, I want to edit fields .104 (PROVIDER) and .1041 (ATTENDING PHYSICIAN) in file 2 (PATIENT file). I have a fileman code of @ In the data dictionary, these two fields have a code of ^ required. I assume this means that my DUZ(0) must contain a ^. This is normally loaded (I believe)

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread Greg Woodhouse
As you might guess, that's a trick that is sometimes employed to discourage unauthorized fiddling with sensitive files. Off the top of my head, I'm not sure if Fileman will complain if you set DUZ(0) programmatically to ^ before attempting an update, but I believe this will work. --- Kevin

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread Nancy Anthracite
Take a look at the FILE MANAGE ACCESS CODE field in file 200. Maybe you can put a ^ there with D P^DI and then see what happens. On Sunday 13 February 2005 05:14 pm, Kevin Toppenberg wrote: Hello all, I want to edit fields .104 (PROVIDER) and .1041 (ATTENDING PHYSICIAN) in file 2 (PATIENT

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread Kevin Toppenberg
I also thought @ was a master access setting. But here is a screen log of what I am seeing. GTMzwr DUZ DUZ=90 DUZ(0)=@ DUZ(1)= DUZ(2)=69 DUZ(AG)=O DUZ(AUTO)=1 DUZ(BUF)=1 DUZ(LANG)=1 GTMd ^XUP Setting up programmer environment Terminal Type set to: C-VT102 Select OPTION NAME: diedit INPUT

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread steven mcphelan
-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? Maybe it is because you don't have a patient who has been admitted! Note that it says inpatient below. On Sunday 13 February 2005 09:18 pm, Nancy Anthracite wrote: I noted that only active providers are allowed, so do your docs have the PROVIDER

Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ?

2005-02-13 Thread Chris Richardson
of it. - Original Message - From: steven mcphelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: hardhats-members@lists.sourceforge.net Sent: Sunday, February 13, 2005 7:50 PM Subject: Re: [Hardhats-members] How to obtain a write access of ^ ? If a field is write protected with the ^ then no DUZ(0) will allow you